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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 19:27:48 GMT
Any idea if a PC can output audio on two separate USB ports at the same time? This would allow me to switch quickly between the DDC being in and out of the system, to see what it really does.
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Post by Bigman80 on Nov 17, 2021 19:30:04 GMT
Any idea if a PC can output audio on two separate USB ports at the same time? This would allow me to switch quickly between the DDC being in and out of the system, to see what it really does. Worth a bash, but not sure.
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Post by macca on Nov 17, 2021 20:28:22 GMT
It's possible I know that but I don't know how to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 21:09:32 GMT
I found a way of doing it, but I need to change the audio output on the PC and input on the DAC each time. There is a difference. It is not huge….
That is my initial thoughts from playing tonight.
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Post by Bigman80 on Nov 17, 2021 21:28:43 GMT
I found a way of doing it, but I need to change the audio output on the PC and input on the DAC each time. There is a difference. It is not huge…. That is my initial thoughts from playing tonight. A difference has been heard though, which does make this another of these devices that according to the listener, affect the sound. Mad isn't it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2021 8:23:37 GMT
Yes, a difference was heard, but it is not huge.
If the DI-20HE is not much better, the difference, in my opinion, is not worth €1k. However, I am assuming that the DI-20HE is going to be much better.
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Post by Bigman80 on Nov 18, 2021 8:31:43 GMT
Yes, a difference was heard, but it is not huge. If the DI-20HE is not much better, the difference, in my opinion, is not worth €1k. However, I am assuming that the DI-20HE is going to be much better. Are you gonna try one ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2021 10:00:45 GMT
Not straight away. I am going to use what I have first, and come to a decision about it later.
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Post by misterc on Nov 18, 2021 11:19:17 GMT
From my observations its the only one that comes close the Mutec that I have tried out of 12 units ranging form £300 to £5000.
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Post by lurch on Nov 18, 2021 12:19:28 GMT
Yes, a difference was heard, but it is not huge. If the DI-20HE is not much better, the difference, in my opinion, is not worth €1k. However, I am assuming that the DI-20HE is going to be much better. Pretty much my assessment, all sounded right before I put the DI-2014 in, however now it sounds more right than it did. With the difference being well worth the £180 to change, but if this, had been a £400+ punt the unit would have gone back for a refund.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2021 12:27:25 GMT
From my observations its the only one that comes close the Mutec that I have tried out of 12 units ranging form £300 to £5000. I don't suppose you have tried the older model? I am going to have a look at opinions on the net before I try a 20HE, as I don't want to do a home loan/distance purchase before I am sure that it will be a sufficient upgrade for the cost. Chances are, I will forget about it as xmas is coming...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2021 18:02:05 GMT
The sound seems to have opened up a bit now. I can only guess that part of that is due to the USB card “burning in” or the DI-2014 settling in. I have no idea if it was being used a lot before, but for now, I am pretty happy with the sound, so the newer version can wait.
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Post by lurch on Nov 26, 2021 19:01:32 GMT
Yep I found this to be the case with mine, initially it was 🤔 I like what it's doing but not sure what it is coz it's subtle. However as time passed things got better and after a couple of days it opened up as you say. Definitely notice when I take it out of the chain, things just sound less right.
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Post by optical on Nov 27, 2021 9:36:03 GMT
Yep I found this to be the case with mine, initially it was 🤔 I like what it's doing but not sure what it is coz it's subtle. However as time passed things got better and after a couple of days it opened up as you say. Definitely notice when I take it out of the chain, things just sound less right. Excellent description of what is experienced here. No idea what specifically but don't want to be without it after having it!
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Post by bencat on Oct 9, 2022 11:48:55 GMT
I will add a little to this long time after the original start . Lurch has joined the Mutec cabal and after doing an A/B listen has decided the Mutec stays . At the Wam Stoke show Lurch very kindly let me have the Audio GD to take home and listen . I was going to use it at the show but with the stress of no music until 16.45 on Saturday after arriving mid day Fraiday no way was I changing anything .
Okay now I already know that Lurch prefers the Mutec and that is the go to unit for most on here (or possibly two or three ? more ?) but sadly unless i can find a very reduced used item then it is currently a little out of my reach and as I am retired I have no work input to get extra money so wait and keep looking.
Now was too tired to after the show to get things done quickly so system was back up and playing Friday . Then my repaired NVA P60 was collected by me on Thursday so that being back in my main system on the end of my Quad ESL 57 was the order of the day Friday and than bled in to lots of Saturday as well . Frankly this has made my main system sound epic .
So this morning after the gym and breakfast I have added the Audio GD unit to my three way active system . I have connected the Allo Digihat Signature to the Audio GD by RCA SPDIF and then taken the BNC output via a Wave Audio digital cable in to my MiniDSP DDRC 22D and then through the system . Because of my set up and the connections it is just not possible to do quick A/B test so next best things (and no I make no claims that it is either accurate or great but hey ho ) . Played one track Cassandra Wilson - Witchita Lineman without the Audio GD in the chain then did the connection and played the same track with the Audio GD in the chain . Straight away there was a difference it was not the same . First impression for me was that I liked what it was doing image was wider and taller but still the same depth wise . Tones and Timbres seemed to be more natural and decay was easier to hear were it was recorded . One thing that often surprises me is that electronic tones can sound much more real with extra texture to sounds that I did not notice before .
Having read this thread from the start I am aware that Lurch says the Audio GD units sounds better after a decent warm up after it has not been used for a while so will add my view tomorrow after tit has been playing for a decent time and see what things are like then .
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Post by bencat on Oct 10, 2022 10:37:50 GMT
Right the Audio GD has been in place since yesterday and has seen me through Cerys on 6 Music Sunday morning , Radio Paradise for most of the day after that and then playing FLAC rips from my Hard Drive . One thing for sure is that this is not going back to John and I have agreed to buy it . Being the gent that he is John has said keep using it for a few days and then decide which I will do . This just sounds better the longer it plays and the more it warms up and for what I want then it is excellent . I know what you are all going to say and I am sure that you are right a Mutec would be better but at this time that is just not going to happen so in isolation without a direct comparison I am very happy with the Audio GD and it is an improvement on it not being in the chain . I am still going to take it out probably tomorrow and see how long it takes me to replace it .
Now if anyone has one of these spare then please let me know as I would like to get another one to use in my main system as well .
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Post by optical on Oct 10, 2022 10:55:51 GMT
Right the Audio GD has been in place since yesterday and has seen me through Cerys on 6 Music Sunday morning , Radio Paradise for most of the day after that and then playing FLAC rips from my Hard Drive . One thing for sure is that this is not going back to John and I have agreed to buy it . Being the gent that he is John has said keep using it for a few days and then decide which I will do . This just sounds better the longer it plays and the more it warms up and for what I want then it is excellent . I know what you are all going to say and I am sure that you are right a Mutec would be better but at this time that is just not going to happen so in isolation without a direct comparison I am very happy with the Audio GD and it is an improvement on it not being in the chain . I am still going to take it out probably tomorrow and see how long it takes me to replace it . Now if anyone has one of these spare then please let me know as I would like to get another one to use in my main system as well . Great choices of radio station there, big fan of Radio Paradise especially as they transmit in 320kbps. Glad you are enjoying what a quality re-clocker can do, until you try it you just don't know do you.
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Post by bencat on Nov 16, 2022 13:19:53 GMT
Been using the Audio GD for quite a while now and have taken it out of system twice in that period and seen if I was missing it being in the chain . Strong answer is yes and it is very obvious from the first track you play without it being there after listening with it in place. I am not going to make any stupid claims that it is night and day as they always seem to be overstated as with the Mutec the Audio GD is subtle but very musical it just lets things flow and play better almost as if everyone playing has taken a chill pill and they find more time and space to play in . Describing what it does is not easy but you recognise when it is there.
I would really like to get another of these if I can and see what I can achieve with a back to back session . Got searches in place on that well known website and will keep checking the classifieds . If anyone knows anyone who has one doing nothing by all means point them my way .
Optical just a point Radio Paradise as i listen to it is in full lossless Flac which is a better quality stream than the 320kbps. Not sure how you accessing your RP but if you can then get a direct stream from the site at the full FLAC level the difference is not subtle .
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