Audio-GD DI-2014 Reclocker, Any Good??

Me too but apparently not and it's 'pissing off some members' probably none of whom have been on this forum as long as I have.  

I've never had a problem with people describing what they hear, as I mentioned earlier. But it never ends there, they have to try to back it up with ludicrous technical claims which amount to deception (yes Optical I did mean to type that), and then they get upset when they get called out. The way I see it if you make those claims then you open up the discussion to them being refuted. The solution to that is stop making them. But IME that will never happen. 


You used to be able to discuss anything here and it wasn't just another subjectivist echo chamber, which is why I stuck around, but if that's how it's going to be now then fair enough I will bow out.

Okay, not wishing to chase our tails here but I'm happy to continue any discussions regarding reclockers/jitter etc. 

I certainly don't profess to have much knowledge regarding either, more than happy for someone to start a thread on it, I'm also doing some reading around the subject in general.

macca - for my own benefit can you possibly cite (even via PM if necessary!) exactly what ludicrous technical claims have been made and where? Just for my own peace of mind and to confirm I'm not going mad.

All I can find is users reporting experiences (mostly positive) with some general musings as to what might be happening regarding the technical aspects.


I can't find anyone whom has claimed with certainty that anything technical is happening at all apart from things sounding different to them. 

I would like to know what part of peoples experiences amount to this deception you claim?


 

There's no need to bow out, macca. That's not the intended result of my post.

I'm not "censoring" any topic.

The ethos of the forum has always been the same, but there has been a recent trend of threads descending into Jitter, AB testing and totally losing sight of the subject in the original post.

The thread drift has probably been my fault, as i haven't been on top of it..... stretched a bit thin lately.

I like the varied topics of discussion here, and I welcome it.

No, the criticism wasn't aimed at Macca, it was aimed at the fact that it seemed every thread was becoming about AB testing or the audible level of jitter.

Just to be ultra clear, I welcome the discussion on Jitter, AB testing and the power of the mind, but they need to have their own thread, rather than bleeding all over the others.

It's on me for not seeing it earlier and therefore not making sure the topics of interest remained on course.

Macca is not being criticized, as he wasn't talking to himself was he! We're all guilty of carrying on a discussion over numerous threads, and in my post migraine state yesterday, I may not have explained that we'll enough. I'm not great when I haven't been feeling well.

We all love macca, and we know he's a die hard Audio addict. It wasn't personal.

Yeah, but it didn't venture into the same topic on multiple threads.

Anyway,

Let's crack on ay.

No that's not my opinion. I am open to the idea that it does something, also open to the idea that it does nothing. I like to see evidence before forming an opinion, so far I have not seen any but that doesn't mean there isn't any. 

Even if I tried one here at home and perceived  it improved the sound I still would not consider that evidence that it is really doing anything. I'd still keep it and use it though which seems to be the place where most of those who already have one are at. Even then I would certainly not be giving it a blanket endorsement or advising everyone I met that they need to go out and get one for themselves without some concrete evidence that the improvement was not just in my mind.

For me - and I stress that this is for me, not telling anyone else what they should do - to be able to declare that it really does do something  I would need to see either some measurements showing that the signal at the analogue output was changed sufficiently for it to be audible, or a blind listening test with proper controls where the difference in sound quality was identified repeatedly enough times that it was unlikely to be lucky guessing.

Like I said if I tried one and perceived an improvement i would keep it and use it, but I still wouldn't recommend it to anyone else without evidence that it is actually doing something since it might just be in my head. Nor would I claim it is doing anything just because I think  heard it doing something.

I keep and use my Spotfire interconnects on that same basis. I perceive they are better than all my other interconnects  but since there is no evidence to suggest they really are I don't make any claims about them beyond that I use them and  am happy with the results.

Hope that clarifies my position.

You know, a few days ago, the only link in my entire system that doesn't have Belden shielded mains cable was the link from wall socket to distribution block.

It's about 7" in length and as part of my efforts to get the system complete, I bought the materials to make the last link.

I did so, using the same plugs as every other cable I have made, plugged it in and I can't listen to the system.

There is a really prominent change to the bass. Like someone is stamping in the floor boards at the same time as every bass note is played.

I thought I was imagining it, but putting my big standard kettle lead back in returned things to normal.

If I were to measure that cable, Vs the Belden one...I suspect there would be a nothing to explain it, but I have swapped back and forth a fair few times and the effect really is very real and very easy to hear.

If anyone has any insight, I'd be happy to hear it. Also, if someone knows of a Measurable test I could perform, id happily publish the results.

I can certainly do that.

Not sure how well it will be captured as it's all LF. But I'll have a go.

Always think Steven Seagal is going to pop up and snap someone's neck in that video.

Classic, that was a few surgeries ago....

might give us an idea of it.

That would be interesting.

I'll give it a go tomorrow.

I know you're a man of fine taste, so this gadget excites me a lot.

£170 seems like peanuts for something in this domain. Must admit, I have a hankering to try an PI2AES too.

Although it appears they are no longer being made.

Well done for diving in and having a blind punt. I love that sort of thing.