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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 19:55:40 GMT
Ive always disliked MC cartridges so you will not see any favs from me in that department ADC - 27 AKG - P8ES SUPER NOVA GOLDRING - G900 IGC PICKERING - XLZ 7500S
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 22:19:32 GMT
Never had a dynavector 10x5 obviously. High output MC but ferking great ! The only cart I'll buy nowadays.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 22:59:01 GMT
Well Well fancy seeing you on here So you are telling me that sounds better than the 'DL110'?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 23:37:11 GMT
By about a mile.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 23:47:14 GMT
Cant you take that 110 of the cacky DJ deck & try it on your Gyro
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 23:52:34 GMT
I have. I've got a glorious Goldy 1042 on the SL now. Sounds great. Damn good cart if you can set it up right. A lot of people can't. One thing I'll give the 110. It's the best cart with tatty vinyl. Ignores clicks and pops like no other cart. Got a few worn LP's ? Get thissen a 110.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 4:37:14 GMT
Great to have you on here Mr. Engine. Never had a favorite cartridge, I just do not see the point of spending silly money on a cartridge that only performs marginally better than an AT 95E. So I suppose that happens to be my favorite. Anyway my decks are all budget Sh#t, along with cartridges the same philosophy applies.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 9:59:24 GMT
Cheers.
So long as you're spinning the black loveliest and tapping your feet , who cares ? It's my greatest love do I spend a bit on it Gets to a point though where the best investment is a wallet filled visit to the record shop.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 6:33:41 GMT
After a good few years using Moving Coils and a tear inducing accident with an uninsured Dynavector 20x2L (which snapped the cantilever and wiped out the coils) I went back to MM and bought a used, Japan only Audio Technica AT150 EA I'm so pleased with this cart it's as good as a Dynavector 10x5 (although different arm, different deck) but it's best attribute for me is it's replaceable up and downgradeable stylus, lovely!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 8:35:19 GMT
After a good few years using Moving Coils and a tear inducing accident with an uninsured Dynavector 20x2L (which snapped the cantilever and wiped out the coils) I went back to MM and bought a used, Japan only Audio Technica AT150 EA I'm so pleased with this cart it's as good as a Dynavector 10x5 (although different arm, different deck) but it's best attribute for me is it's replaceable up and downgradeable stylus, lovely! AT do make some cracking cartridges, for not a lot of money too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 14:31:45 GMT
Some pretty "out there" opinions on carts going on here! everything said so far I say the exact opposite to!
AT95 is unusably crap and I'd do without vinyl before using one....
Dynavector/Ultimo 10X I found so bad I got shot after only about 3-4 hours use!
All the best carts are low output MC's without exception!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 14:50:52 GMT
Some pretty "out there" opinions on carts going on here! everything said so far I say the exact opposite to! AT95 is unusably crap and I'd do without vinyl before using one.... Dynavector/Ultimo 10X I found so bad I got shot after only about 3-4 hours use! All the best carts are low output MC's without exception! Best from what perspective?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 14:51:37 GMT
After a good few years using Moving Coils and a tear inducing accident with an uninsured Dynavector 20x2L (which snapped the cantilever and wiped out the coils) I went back to MM and bought a used, Japan only Audio Technica AT150 EA I'm so pleased with this cart it's as good as a Dynavector 10x5 (although different arm, different deck) but it's best attribute for me is it's replaceable up and downgradeable stylus, lovely! I have an AT150 EA, with the mlx stylus. A great cartridge.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 30, 2019 17:00:03 GMT
AT carts generally kick ass. I have never heard a bad one.
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Post by dsjr on Oct 30, 2019 17:16:09 GMT
I like the AT's as a breed too.
Fondest cartridge memory was of a Kiseki Lapis Luzuli I heard decades ago. It (in a Zeta I think), made all alternatives I'd heared from that period mostly sound too thick toned in general. I'm a huge Decca fan, but users need to realise that failure seems built in as most do seem to go wrong eventually - as mine did, although they can be repaired currently.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 30, 2019 17:27:51 GMT
I always wanted a Kiseki but was skint back then. You never see them come up today. Remember the Milltek Aurora? Wasn't a that a budget Kiseki? Never seen one or sale used either.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 17:28:52 GMT
I like the AT's as a breed too. Fondest cartridge memory was of a Kiseki Lapis Luzuli I heard decades ago. It (in a Zeta I think), made all alternatives I'd heared from that period mostly sound too thick toned in general. I'm a huge Decca fan, but users need to realise that failure seems built in as most do seem to go wrong eventually - as mine did, although they can be repaired currently. I'm actually planning to move on my last Decca. I tasty Mk.III elliptical.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 23:02:32 GMT
Some pretty "out there" opinions on carts going on here! everything said so far I say the exact opposite to! AT95 is unusably crap and I'd do without vinyl before using one.... Dynavector/Ultimo 10X I found so bad I got shot after only about 3-4 hours use! All the best carts are low output MC's without exception! Well I agree with you regarding the original AT95 though I havent heard the new version with ugraded stylus but unless you have heard every single cartridge in existence and ever made I can't see how your last statement is credible.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 31, 2019 6:34:12 GMT
I haven't heard an MM that comes close to a decent mc. I can still live with AT MMs though if I have no opportunity for mc. Thankfully these days, I do use an mc.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 6:54:49 GMT
I'm not one for knocking others gear or taste but just out of interest , what sort of music do people enjoy using an Audio Technica OC9 ML ? Admittedly I listen to rock mostly but I do have a pretty eclectic taste buds and love Jazz, Reggae , hip hop and classical. But none of these were bearable for me with a an AT OC9 ! I found it so thin , screechy and downright piercing that I lasted a month then it had to go. Is it a different story with valves ? I honestly came to the conclusion that Hi Fi Choice was being bribed to champion it. Horses for courses as I said , but to me it was £500 straight down the drain. And I like my music exciting , not bland . For me , in general a good MM is better for rock music. It puts more meat on the bones than MC's.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 7:11:06 GMT
I'm not one for knocking others gear or taste but just out of interest , what sort of music do people enjoy using an Audio Technica OC9 ML ? Admittedly I listen to rock mostly but I do have a pretty eclectic taste buds and love Jazz, Reggae , hip hop and classical. But none of these were bearable for me with a an AT OC9 ! I found it so thin , screechy and downright piercing that I lasted a month then it had to go. Is it a different story with valves ? I honestly came to the conclusion that Hi Fi Choice was being bribed to champion it. Horses for courses as I said , but to me it was £500 straight down the drain. And I like my music exciting , not bland . For me , in general a good MM is better for rock music. It puts more meat on the bones than MC's. The Audio Technica OC9II is the best one by far. A good Cartridge
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 7:13:08 GMT
From the Blog: Just my experience and by no means the absolute of any cartridge
*Ortofon Vienna - Transparent, highly detailed and very balanced. Dynamic and Punchy. Best cartridge I have ever heard. *Ortofon 2M Black - Wonderfully timbred, slightly edgy in the HF. That was with a valve amp so SS users be careful. *Ortofon Kontrapunkt b - Best all rounder. Vienna is a step up in every aspect but you can tell they are stable mates. *Ortofon Rondo Red - Great taste of MC quality but a bit rough around the edges. *Denon 103 - Not as good as the 103r *Denon 103r - If you're in need of a cheap cartridge, This wont let you down but it's not for detail lovers. *Denon 301 - A proper gem. Has the typical Denon sound but manages to be lively and dynamic. I liked this a lot. *Denon 304 - If you like filigree and detail, without any effort or drive, this is heaven. Bit laid back for me. *Denon DL-S1 - Most overrated cartridge i've heard. Good at detail. Felt 'cold', emotionless. Terminator like. *Goldring Electra - I like this a lot. Good all rounder but on the warm side of neutral. *Goldring Eroica - Like the Rondo, good but lacked the panache of the better MC carts *Goldring 2100 - Balanced and musical without sacrificing detail. Still dirt cheap too. *Goldring 2200 - As above, no complaints. Handles everything you throw at it and more. *AT110 - A bit sharp in the HF's and rough sounding. Got a bit busy in the mix. *AT95e - Can't fault it. HiFi's biggest bargain. *AT120 - Bit more polished than the 110, but it didn't hang around long. *AT33PTG - Good refinement like the best MC carts but lacked a bit of solidity in the bass. Sounded a bit soft at times.. *AT33PTGII - Improved where necessary on the PTG but I still felt bass lines had a soft leading edge. Couldn't ignore it. *AT-OC9II - I like this cartridge. Clean, fast and detailed. *AT-ART7 - Ah! Now we're talking!! Erred on the warm side and beaten in width by the Vienna but other than that, superb. *NWA-DH1 - As transparent as the invisible man. Bit lightweight sound wise, lacked a bit of weight or slam but stunningly clear. *Linn Asak - See Goldring Eroica for a carbon copy opinion. *Linn Troica - Decent MC cartridge but not up to the levels of the Kb, AT-ART7 or Vienna. find a cheap one, you'll be happy. *Lyra Clavis - Top class in all areas. an equal to the KB but the bodied sound of the KB won it for me. Slightly. I'd buy one. *Acutex 412 - Detailed, neutral and dynamic. Slam and delicacy. Get a fair amount of surface noise though. *Acutex 312e - Paid £15 for one 3 years ago and I couldn't believe how good it was. as good as the GR2100. Easily. *Decca Super Gold - MY EARS!!!!! TURN IT OFF. Wretched things with no bass and enough HF to break glass. *Decca Gold - I didn't know it could get worse? *Decca Blue - Oh? This isn't too bad (in comparison) Best of the Deccas by a margin, but lack of bass just pissed me off. *ZYX R50 Bloom - Boogie monster. Great for parties but don't expect the Philharmonic to sound anything other than "chunky" *ZYX R100 - Slightly more refined and better balanced but I always felt the ZYX carts were bass heavy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 19:18:46 GMT
As engine hints at above different carts suit different genres which is why I now prefer a good all rounder which for me is an MM. No point using a £7-800 cart to play the many reggae records from the 70's and 80's I own that where badly mastered and badly pressed on low quality vinyl it's a bit of a waste but I've found out that a good quality MM on a good DD deck will get the best out of them. I do own a lot of very well recorded and pressed records too mainly Jazz music from the 50's, 60's & 70's that does sound very intricate and detailed with an low output MC and though less detailed I've also found that a good MM seems to add that bit of body that I really like too, so rather than owning two decks or two arms on one deck I've gone for something that gives me pleasure across all genres.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 31, 2019 22:09:07 GMT
I'm not one for knocking others gear or taste but just out of interest , what sort of music do people enjoy using an Audio Technica OC9 ML ? Admittedly I listen to rock mostly but I do have a pretty eclectic taste buds and love Jazz, Reggae , hip hop and classical. But none of these were bearable for me with a an AT OC9 ! I found it so thin , screechy and downright piercing that I lasted a month then it had to go. Is it a different story with valves ? I honestly came to the conclusion that Hi Fi Choice was being bribed to champion it. Horses for courses as I said , but to me it was £500 straight down the drain. And I like my music exciting , not bland . For me , in general a good MM is better for rock music. It puts more meat on the bones than MC's. The Audio Technica OC9II is the best one by far. A good Cartridge
My fave so far.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 8:22:41 GMT
I think the OC9II needs careful loading. I have a couple of MC cartridges, but nothing too exotic, as having an inquisitive 4 year old in the house could be expensive if she were to find my cartridge. She likes to do the same as Daddy, so cheap(er) MM cartridges will do for now. Things like the AT150ea/mlx with boron cantilever, AT20SS with a beryllium cantilever, EPC-205 Neo SAS with sapphire cantilever. Easily fixable, and then there is my modified AT95SA, soon to be a VM95SA. Much easier and cheaper to replace.
Of my MC cartridges, I really like the AT33PTG/II and by Audio Techne modified DL-103 with Shibata stylus. I have not really felt the need to go any better to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 17:11:36 GMT
As a make I've always liked Ortofon. So many models over the years and all good to superb. I struggle to think of an Ortofon cart that's not at least par for the course and decent VFM from their cheapest DJ carts to their high end ones. Mind you the whole VFM thing with carts went Sh#t shaped years ago IMHO.... Lack of demand due to digital I guess. The one that really sticks in my throat are the carts that have been around so long I can remember them being £50 new, at which price they were regarded at the time not as a budget cart by any means but as a first upgrade cart... the thing you bought when you were ready to ditch the AT95E... Thing is the same cart is now like £350 in some cases!! "£350 for a £50 cartridge!!?? yer havin a laugh!" I guess it's a gettin' old thing... I was outraged by a Kawasaki KE175 being like £1900 on "Junk and Disorderly" the other night... for a 40 year old bike that was not desirable or anything when it was brand new and which I well recall being available at £250 or so for a 2 year old one! Oh it was Kiseki was it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 17:20:37 GMT
Ever thought that modern cartridges are so crap that the crap from years back are not as crap as people once thought
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 17:25:25 GMT
What about the old Nagaoka 'MP-11' First budget cart i bought new back in the 80's. A lot dont like em but i do & could easily live with one. I also had the later 'Boron' MP-11 with the metal body, could not hear any difference between the two tho..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 17:29:54 GMT
Ever thought that modern cartridges are so crap that the crap from years back are not as crap as people once thought Yup!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 17:54:50 GMT
Ever thought that modern cartridges are so crap that the crap from years back are not as crap as people once thought What a ludicrous generalisation
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