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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 13, 2019 9:14:06 GMT
I might take a step up from my SR80s. I’ve Had RS2e and could go there again but I’ve heard almost no other cans, I do like the Grado clarity though. Spending no more than £250 and buying used, has anyone got a suggestion for a Grado beater?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 9:33:42 GMT
Second hand Hifiman Sundara?
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Post by dsjr on Sept 13, 2019 9:39:50 GMT
I believe most of the Grado models differ only in the ear-pads/cups and supposed tolerances which would be difficult to challenge I suspect. Loads written about it here and there. I found like the Prestige cartridge models, the very expensive top reference models were bland and uninteresting in their 'refinement.'
See about ear pads/cushions whatever. There's some real expensive crap headphones out there and no two heads are the same as well.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 13, 2019 10:46:02 GMT
I believe most of the Grado models differ only in the ear-pads/cups and supposed tolerances which would be difficult to challenge I suspect. Loads written about it here and there. I found like the Prestige cartridge models, the very expensive top reference models were bland and uninteresting in their 'refinement.' See about ear pads/cushions whatever. There's some real expensive crap headphones out there and no two heads are the same as well. I’m tempted to pimp my Grados with better cabling and some exotic wood cups. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 13, 2019 10:47:05 GMT
Second hand Hifiman Sundara? Never heard of those, so thanks fir the tip, I will look them up and seek out a list if possible.or just take a punt on a bargain used pair |
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Post by alit on Sept 13, 2019 10:59:52 GMT
Not heard any Grados, it I do like the Oppo PM3 I have- you should be able to find some in that budget.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 13, 2019 11:20:22 GMT
Not heard any Grados, it I do like the Oppo PM3 I have- you should be able to find some in that budget. Well I sad I was a headphone novice and here’s more proof. I didn’t know Oppo made headphones! They look lovely in white. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 11:37:17 GMT
Depends if you like bright phones.. I like Sony V6
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 14:40:19 GMT
Have owned a couple V6's. Clean 'n' Crisp is what my ears heard. They remind me of the AE1 Loudspeaker.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 14:42:23 GMT
Depends what you put into to tho.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 15:05:32 GMT
I bought these. Meze Classics last yeast. I find my grade 325i's too uncomfortable. I'll keep these forever. They're a revelation. Closed but don't sound like it. Very neutral. Comfy . Gorgeous things and all the parts are replaceable.  photo url |
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 14, 2019 15:18:12 GMT
I bought these. Meze Classics last yeast. I find my grade 325i's too uncomfortable. I'll keep these forever. They're a revelation. Closed but don't sound like it. Very neutral. Comfy . Gorgeous things and all the parts are replaceable. photo url I’v W ever seen them before, they look very expensive, |
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Post by sq225917 on Sept 14, 2019 15:24:44 GMT
What are you listening to them on?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 16:49:40 GMT
Have a look away the web site.
Meze.
Quite impressive.
I think they were about 300 squid.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 17:12:47 GMT
Westie. If you want wide airy presentation like your Spica's. Give the AKG K701 a try.
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Post by pauld on Sept 14, 2019 17:40:10 GMT
If you like the Grado sound, try a second hand pair of PS500, you should be able to pick them up well in your budget and for me they are by far the best headphones in their range (including all the silky expensive ones)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 20:44:36 GMT
I bought these. Meze Classics last yeast. I find my grade 325i's too uncomfortable. I'll keep these forever. They're a revelation. Closed but don't sound like it. Very neutral. Comfy . Gorgeous things and all the parts are replaceable. photo url I thought about a pair of these, but went with the Sundara instead. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 22:56:21 GMT
Westie. Just in case you missed it. On page 1, I recommended the AKG K701. They're good if you want an 'outside of head' kind of sound. Nice wide sound staging. To a degree the 701's should mimic your Spica's.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 15, 2019 0:01:26 GMT
Westie. Just in case you missed it. On page 1, I recommended the AKG K701. They're good if you want an 'outside of head' kind of sound. Nice wide sound staging. To a degree the 701's should mimic your Spica's. S. Cheers, Shane. That sounds ideal and the price of them is low. Would they be in Grado RS territory though? I need a step up from SR80s. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 15, 2019 8:42:54 GMT
I started by putting bids in Auctionstealer. First one one bear fruit was the AKGs. If they don’t fit the bill, I will sell on and try the others on Auctionstealer until the next one lands. I will be looking at the Hifiman, the Oppo and the Meze 99 next if the AKGs don’t do it for me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 15:46:14 GMT
Westie. Just in case you missed it. On page 1, I recommended the AKG K701. They're good if you want an 'outside of head' kind of sound. Nice wide sound staging. To a degree the 701's should mimic your Spica's. S. Cheers, Shane. That sounds ideal and the price of them is low. Would they be in Grado RS territory though? I need a step up from SR80s. The 701's has a more detailed refined sound over the 80's. The 80's can sound a bit brash in comparison. 701's are pretty revealing cans and will easily highlight any bad recording. Have fun. S. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 16:04:11 GMT
Yeh i sold mine. I felt bad cos they were an anniversary present but
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 18:17:34 GMT
I have a pair of the Meze 99 Classics and also HiFiMan He400i. The Meze are warmer, more bassy and (I guess obviously) do sound more closed in the the HE400is. I prefer the 400is I think but have to use the closed back Meze 99s if my wife is watching tv. More than welcome to try them if you're anywhere near Lincolnshire...
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 15, 2019 19:59:46 GMT
I have a pair of the Meze 99 Classics and also HiFiMan He400i. The Meze are warmer, more bassy and (I guess obviously) do sound more closed in the the HE400is. I prefer the 400is I think but have to use the closed back Meze 99s if my wife is watching tv. More than welcome to try them if you're anywhere near Lincolnshire... That’s a lovely offer thanks, but I’m way up North between Durham and Newcastle. The 400i are definyely on my list though as they sell used for as little as £100. Gotta be worth a try. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 18:14:20 GMT
Straight down the A1 then :-)
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 16, 2019 22:39:56 GMT
Straight down the A1 then :-) It would be if I could drive. On my bike it might get a bit hairy  |
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 18, 2019 9:43:21 GMT
Got the AKGs today. Nicely made but they are a looooong way short of the level of sound quality I want. I do get the extra space they give but they are severely lacking in clarity.
Hifiman next, I think.
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Post by antonio on Sept 18, 2019 13:21:00 GMT
Couple of nice pairs on ebay, less than £200, but only just.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 18, 2019 14:21:23 GMT
I need a week or two to clear some bits. I’m drowning in stuff and there’s at least two more bits to land.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 18, 2019 14:24:17 GMT
I will say this for the AKGs, the build, finish and packing for the price is great. They are better in this respect than the £570 Grados I had, TBH I haven’t heard an over-ear headphone that has sounded anything other than abysmal. They have all sounded dull and thuddy with no clarity. I still haven’t heard any headphone that has climbed out of the “sub-fi” category so I may be onto a loser even trying others. IME headphones suck badly.
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