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Post by jimbo on Mar 16, 2022 19:51:31 GMT
Turntable Bearing Oil
If like me you have a turntable with a decent bearing in it as I do on my VPI Scout 1.1 you may have pondered which bearing oil to use.
Well I have got some good news. Rather than go out there and buy Oil in tiny bottles selling for £1000 per litre all you need to use is synthetic oil- any synthetic oil! This was recommended by the VPI technical department .
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 16, 2022 20:03:17 GMT
Turntable Bearing OilIf like me you have a turntable with a decent bearing in it as I do on my VPI Scout 1.1 you may have pondered which bearing oil to use. Well I have got some good news. Rather than go out there and buy Oil in tiny bottles selling for £1000 per litre all you need to use is synthetic oil- any synthetic oil! This was recommended by the VPI technical department . I assume that's advice for VPI turntables? |
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Post by jimbo on Mar 16, 2022 20:30:51 GMT
Turntable Bearing OilIf like me you have a turntable with a decent bearing in it as I do on my VPI Scout 1.1 you may have pondered which bearing oil to use. Well I have got some good news. Rather than go out there and buy Oil in tiny bottles selling for £1000 per litre all you need to use is synthetic oil- any synthetic oil! This was recommended by the VPI technical department . I assume that's advice for VPI turntables? My VPI Scout 1.1 has a A chrome- hardened ball-bearing which is pressed into the spindle’s base which turns against a PEEK thrust disc within an oil bath, while the bearing sleeve is made from graphite impregnated brass bushings. So if you have a TT bearing that is in any way similar I would assume OK to use same oil. I would assume most TT would be ok using synthetic oil. Lenco and Garrard turntables should be fine. Not sure what sort of bearing arrangement you have Japanes DD turntbles? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 21:12:55 GMT
Mine has a :
Apparently.
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Post by jimbo on Mar 16, 2022 21:14:55 GMT
What oil have you been using...? |
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Post by stevew on Mar 16, 2022 21:15:10 GMT
I assume that's advice for VPI turntables? My VPI Scout 1.1 has a A chrome- hardened ball-bearing which is pressed into the spindle’s base which turns against a PEEK thrust disc within an oil bath, while the bearing sleeve is made from graphite impregnated brass bushings. So if you have a TT bearing that is in any way similar I would assume OK to use same oil. I would assume most TT would be ok using synthetic oil. Lenco and Garrard turntables should be fine. Not sure what sort of bearing arrangement you have Japanes DD turntbles? Someone recommended this..for Technics dd www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00N3OS3PY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_674H0YAVKZ2NY50Z7ABK |
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Post by jimbo on Mar 16, 2022 21:20:04 GMT
Any idea what the oil is Steve?
£240 per litre!
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Post by stevew on Mar 16, 2022 21:28:00 GMT
Any idea what the oil is Steve? £240 per litre! Apparently Panasonic recommend 2 drops every 2000 hrs. It’ll see me out. |
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Post by jimbo on Mar 16, 2022 21:31:05 GMT
Any idea what the oil is Steve? £240 per litre! Apparently Panasonic recommend 2 drops every 2000 hrs. It’ll see me out. Yes that will definitely keep you sorted for a few years Steve  |
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Post by stevew on Mar 16, 2022 21:38:05 GMT
Mind you, just finished painting the basement today and I reckon reloading the vinyl will finish me off.   |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 21:40:14 GMT
What oil have you been using...? PTFE stuff from Audio Origami |
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Post by jimbo on Mar 16, 2022 21:52:15 GMT
Thats a lot of huffing and puffing moving that amount of vinyl!
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Post by stevew on Mar 16, 2022 22:07:00 GMT
Need a cull.
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Post by phonomac on Mar 17, 2022 7:29:44 GMT
Technics SFW0010 = Anderol 465
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Post by jimbo on Mar 17, 2022 7:39:01 GMT
Technics SFW0010 = Anderol 465 A synthetic oil. |
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Post by antonio on Mar 17, 2022 8:01:39 GMT
Mind you, just finished painting the basement today and I reckon reloading the vinyl will finish me off. The room/basement looks great, or at least will do when everything is put away. Little bit at a time with the vinyl, you've really nothing to rush for. |
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Post by phonomac on Mar 17, 2022 8:42:16 GMT
Technics SFW0010 = Anderol 465 A synthetic oil. A specific synthetic oil with defined properties. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 9:05:12 GMT
Technics SFW0010 = Anderol 465 A synthetic oil. An ISO grade 68 synthetic oil, which is roughly equivalent to 20W on the SAE grading. Edited as I checked the data sheet, rather than believing Vinyl Engine |
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Post by jimbo on Mar 17, 2022 9:20:09 GMT
An ISO grade 32 synthetic oil, which is roughly equivalent to 10W on the SAE grading. Not far off my VW Golf engine oil. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 9:23:34 GMT
Yes, but yours is a multigrade oil, so not strictly 10w.
From what I have read, VPI used to recommend “slick 50” which is similar to the Audio Origami booster oil.
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Post by jimbo on Mar 17, 2022 9:27:01 GMT
Yes, but yours is a multigrade oil, so not strictly 10w. From what I have read, VPI used to recommend “slick 50” which is similar to the Audio Origami booster oil. I have used the Audio Origami oil in the past and think I have some still in a tiny bottle. |
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Post by stevew on Mar 17, 2022 9:33:07 GMT
Technics SFW0010 = Anderol 465 Angus- I know that this oil is recommended by technics for 1200 bearings. I’m assuming that it’s still the right one for SP10 bearings. Is this right do you think? |
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Post by misterc on Mar 17, 2022 9:55:40 GMT
In the Oracle's we use a very special Helicopter rotor additive we used to use when we had the racing business, we shared a large hanger with a regional Air ambulance service centre with a W5 synthetic ester bearing oil works rather well. Amazing sheer resistance and wear reduction additive. Mind you at 45rpm and a 5kg platter not quite going to obtain those stress levels found in a rotor hub I feel  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 10:02:55 GMT
In the Oracle's we use a very special Helicopter rotor additive we used to use when we had the racing business, we shared a large hanger with a regional Air ambulance service centre with a W5 synthetic ester bearing oil works rather well. Amazing sheer resistance and wear reduction additive. Mind you at 45rpm and a 5kg platter not quite going to obatin those stress levels found in a rotor hub I feel Do you think Mobil Jet Oil II would be any good? |
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Post by jimbo on Mar 17, 2022 10:17:22 GMT
Most of these oils are for extreme temperature use -40oC +  Don't think a TT bearing really has too much temp range maybe 10oC - 30oC ? Only really significant aspect would be the addition of ingredients to stop oil going too thin or too thick? I suppose friction (Spin Test) would be the main determining factor but as SP10 has huge torque maybe you could use any synthetic oil? I have been using 5W-30 synthetic oil in my VPI bearing for 3 years with zero problems and still totally silent. |
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Post by robbiegong on Mar 17, 2022 10:24:47 GMT
Technics SFW0010 = Anderol 465 Angus- I know that this oil is recommended by technics for 1200 bearings. I’m assuming that it’s still the right one for SP10 bearings. Is this right do you think? Thats the one Steve, as Angus has directed. It's the Technics one / the one they recommend. I also bought recently for my SP10 from amazon here www.amazon.co.uk/Technics-SFW0010-Turntable-Panasonic-original/dp/B00N3OS3PY |
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Post by phonomac on Mar 17, 2022 10:56:08 GMT
Technics SFW0010 = Anderol 465 Angus- I know that this oil is recommended by technics for 1200 bearings. I’m assuming that it’s still the right one for SP10 bearings. Is this right do you think? Yes, that is correct for an SP10 Mk2 as well as the SL-1200 Mk2. Just as a detail - Anderol 465 is an ISO 68 single-ester synthetic oil. No detergents unlike motor oil. |
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Post by karma67 on Mar 17, 2022 11:30:00 GMT
Angus- I know that this oil is recommended by technics for 1200 bearings. I’m assuming that it’s still the right one for SP10 bearings. Is this right do you think? Yes, that is correct for an SP10 Mk2 as well as the SL-1200 Mk2. Just as a detail - Anderol 465 is an ISO 68 single-ester synthetic oil. No detergents unlike motor oil. Yep and it’s a bugger to buy here in the uk, I get mine from a friend who buys it in the states and sends it to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 12:57:44 GMT
Angus- I know that this oil is recommended by technics for 1200 bearings. I’m assuming that it’s still the right one for SP10 bearings. Is this right do you think? Yes, that is correct for an SP10 Mk2 as well as the SL-1200 Mk2. Just as a detail - Anderol 465 is an ISO 68 single-ester synthetic oil. No detergents unlike motor oil. It is a di-ester, but you are correct - ISO 68, not 32 as I mentioned earlier, so SAE 20. |
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Post by karma67 on Mar 17, 2022 16:55:59 GMT
Yes, that is correct for an SP10 Mk2 as well as the SL-1200 Mk2. Just as a detail - Anderol 465 is an ISO 68 single-ester synthetic oil. No detergents unlike motor oil. It is a di-ester, but you are correct - ISO 68, not 32 as I mentioned earlier, so SAE 20. sae 30 anderol.com/images/anderol/ANDEROL%20465%20EN.pdf |
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Don't think a TT bearing really has too much temp range maybe 10oC - 30oC ? Only really significant aspect would be the addition of ingredients to stop oil going too thin or too thick?
