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Post by dsjr on Sept 23, 2019 18:18:16 GMT
It may well depend on the attenuator impedance as well as lack of any gain.
Perhaps Orchard should consider a simple but effective preamp in simple slim box to drive them?
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Post by orchardaudio on Sept 23, 2019 18:43:07 GMT
So does that mean 2.5V for 75W? Forgive the possibly bad maths here. if so, then Biggie here didn't get anything like full output from his unity gain preamp when he tried it...
I'm sure you can buy inexpensive professional line buffers that could work, but my knowledge of the pro market is p***-poor and I can't make specific recommendations. If you were up to it, an old cylindical MF X-10D line buffer came up a treat with the Rock Grotto update kit, the thing all but losing completely the excess warmth and slight 'dirt' in the original (we sold loads with the infamous CD63-KI CD player which was brash and bright on its own). I say it as a future reference if anyone fancies a go with one of these... Half the voltage equal to 1/4 power, so 2.5V is 37.5W. Power is proportional to the square of the voltage. Examples 2 x voltage = 4 times power 1/2 voltage = 1/4 power Oli tried the Amps with the PecanPi. Did you see that portion of his review?
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Post by orchardaudio on Sept 25, 2019 13:44:22 GMT
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Post by orchardaudio on Sept 28, 2019 1:59:24 GMT
BOSC quality... Every BOSC amp is hand-assembled and tested in the USA, by yours truly. The circuit board (PCB) uses a high-quality dielectric, has a gold finish (ENIG), and is assembled in Eatontown, NJ. The components all come from high-end semiconductor manufacturers: Texas Instruments; Analog Devices; Murata; Panasonic; and NXP; to name a few. The output filter inductors use oxygen-free copper (OFC) and are specifically made for Class-D amplifiers. Even though Orchard Audio is new to the market, I have multiple patents and over a decade of experience in designing audio electronics. I believe that you will be very happy with both the sound and quality of BOSC amplifiers. Contact me with any questions!
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Post by orchardaudio on Oct 6, 2019 21:56:21 GMT
I was, unfortunately, unable to reach the BOSC Kickstarter goal. The good news is that there is another chance to get your hands on the BOSC amplifiers! I hope that you will support Orchard Audio and preorder BOSC directly through the website, here: orchardaudio.com/shop?olsPage=products/bsc-mplfrThe preorders are available at $999 (33% off MSRP), for a pair of amps. Once 40 preorders are placed, I will start manufacturing the BOSC amplifiers, and shipments will start 8-12 weeks after that. Pricing is as follows: $999 for the first 40 preorders $1099 for orders 41 through 60 $1199 for orders 61 and up
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 7:09:28 GMT
I was, unfortunately, unable to reach the BOSC Kickstarter goal. The good news is that there is another chance to get your hands on the BOSC amplifiers! I hope that you will support Orchard Audio and preorder BOSC directly through the website, here: orchardaudio.com/shop?olsPage=products/bsc-mplfrThe preorders are available at $999 (33% off MSRP), for a pair of amps. Once 40 preorders are placed, I will start manufacturing the BOSC amplifiers, and shipments will start 8-12 weeks after that. Pricing is as follows: $999 for the first 40 preorders $1099 for orders 41 through 60 $1199 for orders 61 and up Unfortunate but not the be all and end all. Keep going Leo. The HiFi market is tough to break into but loan lists and demos will get people on board once they hear them. Submit them for review with the big mags like Stereophile etc. It cant hurt.
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Post by antonio on Oct 7, 2019 8:16:02 GMT
Good luck with the sales of your amps, I enjoyed my loan pair.
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Post by orchardaudio on Oct 28, 2019 0:52:50 GMT
BOSC has reached 40 orders. The $999 price is available until November 5th. After that, the price will go to $1249. Order here: orchardaudio.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Fbsc-mplfrThis is the last chance to get these amazing amplifiers at this price. Manufacturing of the BOSC amps will kick off on November 6th. Deliveries will start taking place 8-12 weeks after that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 6:47:13 GMT
A lot of these hifi reviewers are frustrated writers rather than plain old Hifi reviewers. Tell me how it sounds, how much it costs and what it looks like? And if you must I'll even go as far as looking at some measurements but please keep it mercifully short and leave all the flowery or quirky descriptions to the proper writers. I quite like Stereophile for the range of products they review but they are always too long and 6 moons forget it, I'm bored after page 1.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 6:51:47 GMT
If your going purely digital then I can see the appeal of these amps, small and tucked away and of course the proof is in the pudding I fail to see how you can judge their vfm without listening to them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 6:55:07 GMT
If your going purely digital then I can see the appeal of these amps, small and tucked away and of course the proof is in the pudding I fail to see how you can judge their vfm without listening to them. Am I missing something here?
I may be blocked by someone and can't see a conversation but atm im a bit lost about who you are talking to lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 7:20:34 GMT
If your going purely digital then I can see the appeal of these amps, small and tucked away and of course the proof is in the pudding I fail to see how you can judge their vfm without listening to them. Am I missing something here?
I may be blocked by someone and can't see a conversation but atm im a bit lost about who you are talking to lol
It was a repying to a post on page one I think but I forgot to press the Quote button but I then noticed the thread is many pages long which I would usually have read before commenting because most of the time in a thread this long you find your comments already discussed and questions already answered.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 7:29:51 GMT
Am I missing something here?
I may be blocked by someone and can't see a conversation but atm im a bit lost about who you are talking to lol
It was a repying to a post on page one I think but I forgot to press the Quote button but I then noticed the thread is many pages long which I would usually have read before commenting because most of the time in a thread this long you find your comments already discussed and questions already answered. Ha! No worries
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Post by dsjr on Nov 12, 2019 10:09:49 GMT
Listening to amps? now there's a thought May I jot down a thought here? it would appear today that dac technology is now so good on the whole that in theory, they *should* all 'sound' pretty much the same if appearance, facilities and costs are disregarded - in other words, heard blind/un-sighted.. It's my thoughts that amps at this level with near dac-like distortion measurements an order of magnitude better than many 'enthusiast' brands, plenty of power and a very low output impedance so as not to alter the response of a (passive crossover) speaker connected to them, that *just maybe,* they do all 'sound the same' within the power outputs available. One may not like that, but.....
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Post by macca on Nov 12, 2019 12:29:19 GMT
Perfect amplifiers would all sound the same though wouldn't they?
I suspect DACS have all sounded very similar since at least 1990.
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Post by dsjr on Nov 12, 2019 13:40:09 GMT
Our ears, so I'm told, have a roughly 50db dynamic range but on a sliding scale, so if attuned to very quiet sounds, a full blast noise causes pain. On the other hand, a session of rock playback at 'studio' levels of old, return to the street and hardly anything can be heard for a good while. One thing that applies to me of nobody else and going back to when my ears were consisten day-to day - a long car or train journey would screw my hearing up for an hour or so afterwards, thing settling down thereafter. No idea if anyone else has experienced this, but 'gear warming up' it definitely ain't - I used to visit ATC several times a year with interested parties (who almost always purchased, so worth the time and effort) and deliberately didn't listen to anything until we'd relaxed with a cuppa at least. Same thing happens when I visit my dealer pal 70 miles away, so we tend to gossip and cunsume gallons of tea before any listening as such.
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Post by orchardaudio on Dec 22, 2019 20:17:18 GMT
The BOSC amps made The Audio Beatnik's best of 2019 list: bit.ly/2tt38Nd
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Post by orchardaudio on Jan 19, 2020 2:22:51 GMT
I will be doing a demo in Stamford, CT on February 1st. Let me know if you would be interested in coming. There are only 5 spots left.
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Post by dsjr on Jan 22, 2020 12:32:17 GMT
Bit far for the likes of us sadly, but hope you have a good and profitable time
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Post by orchardaudio on Mar 8, 2020 18:10:43 GMT
Customers asked for it, here it is...BOSC amplifier with all connectors on the back. Let me know what you think: orchardaudio.com/bosc
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 11:59:23 GMT
Late to the thread...how does the power supply and the output stage filtering differ to Hypex N core designs? I'm thinking here in terms of both input power supply slew rate and output stage DC offset protection as well as inter-modulation distortion specs etc.
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Post by orchardaudio on Mar 10, 2020 1:24:37 GMT
Late to the thread...how does the power supply and the output stage filtering differ to Hypex N core designs? I'm thinking here in terms of both input power supply slew rate and output stage DC offset protection as well as inter-modulation distortion specs etc. IMD is very good, you can see test result plots including IMD on the BOSC page www.orchardaudio.com/bosc. The output filter design is standard LC BTL design, works really well since switching frequency is ~800kHz. The amplifier stage has very good PSRR, hence not much power supply filtering is needed, plus all critical components run from internal LDOs. Edit: IMD plot is missing, I will add it tomorrow.
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Post by orchardaudio on Mar 11, 2020 19:23:45 GMT
Late to the thread...how does the power supply and the output stage filtering differ to Hypex N core designs? I'm thinking here in terms of both input power supply slew rate and output stage DC offset protection as well as inter-modulation distortion specs etc. IMD is now posted.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 15:15:52 GMT
Looks pretty sound, and low PSRR is encouraging...presumably the low Ripple is a direct result of the LC filter chosen at the output stage?. I'm guessing that CMRR and slew are also good. It's interesting to see that many Class D designs state that they use "standard" LC-BTL design. Presumably this is 2nd order Butterworth based? What interests me in the design assumptions is the variation in speaker impedance that is assumed, as I think I'm right in suggesting that this band is critical to determining the correct electrical damping of the output signal to prevent harshness or at the other end, attenuation?
Good luck with sales. It's nice to see a uk business jumping in to offer something in competition.
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Post by orchardaudio on Jun 12, 2020 2:11:00 GMT
Stuart Yaniger reviews the Orchard Audio BOSC monoblock amplifiers in the latest issue of AudioXpress. "Personally, I'm certainly leaning towards making amps such as BOSC the last ones I'll ever own." and "No matter what sort of music I played from acoustic jazz to Americana-folk to electronic progressive rock, whether my own minimally miked uncompressed recording or highly produced loud studio rock the amplifiers did exactly what they were supposed to, noiselessly, without stress or strain, and in a perfectly transparent way." audioxpress.com/news/sound-power-audioxpress-audio-amplifiers-focus-in-july-2020
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 15, 2020 13:59:11 GMT
Leo, Thats a really good right up, Congratulations on the positivity. They are very good amplifiers and i enjoyed the pair i had here.
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