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Post by antonio on Sept 3, 2019 6:13:52 GMT
I never doubted the seller was 100%.
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Post by alit on Sept 3, 2019 7:43:23 GMT
As an interesting point, Charlie is one of the best Oncologists in the UK, and he saved Wilco Johnson’s life.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 14:41:01 GMT
I despise used Hi-Fi & used Record dealers beyond belief.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 19, 2019 14:43:21 GMT
What a greedy fecker!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 14:48:28 GMT
Greedy, Greedy, Greedy.. Not a cat in hells chance of getting anything cheap these days cos the parasites are always on the ball.
With Auction it only take someone to put a stupid price on something & all others follow suite, before you know it that is the price the item generally sells for.. There is light at the end of the tunnel sometimes as the stuff that is crazy prices are over rated cack.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 20, 2019 14:26:58 GMT
This idiot wins today’s prize. He’s selling “a pair” of speaker cables, he won’t accept that the “pair” pictured will only run one speaker. I’ve tried telling him but he’s getting his panties in a bunch and insisting you run one wire to each speaker. How on earth does such an utter clown have decent cables? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gutwire-Speaker-Cable-Basic/283613407024
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 14:53:14 GMT
O ive had that Sh#t before. Some people are thich as pig shite, they truly are.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 20, 2019 14:55:05 GMT
O ive had that Sh#t before. Some people are thich as pig shite, they truly are. Apparently he’s been enjoying them with his Martin Logan’s! Here was his last message: New message from: barngran (25Yellow Star) Hi - I can confirm that the cables are for stereo paring to two loudspeakers. There are TWO cables in the picture - one for each speaker !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 14:58:47 GMT
Ask him how he has managed that then. You go over to your stereo & disconnect the negative leads. There will be no sound on power up.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 20, 2019 15:04:07 GMT
Ask him how he has managed that then. You go over to your stereo & disconnect the negative leads. There will be no sound on power up. IME that’s probably the most enjoyable way to hear Mvartin Logan’s lol. He has a bid, so he either finds another pair of cables or he has a pissed off buyer to deal with.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 15:05:50 GMT
Move on Westie, Some right arses on E Bay.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 20, 2019 15:17:53 GMT
Agreed. I was actually going to bid to £150 if he had a real pair. No point now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 23:14:59 GMT
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Post by macca on Sept 23, 2019 11:46:47 GMT
Half that price would be more realistic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 22:57:15 GMT
Half that price would be more realistic. Very rare to see one in that cond and boxed too! 1500 is about where I'd expect that to be but I wouldn't expect him to sell it, unless someone really wants the matching a to their pre. He may not be far off a miracle if someone needs it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 7:19:54 GMT
Wow, what an absolute twat "Tommy" appears to be. Unfortunately there are unscrupulous people out there but I suspect there's more to the story. He should fulfill the order, no excuses.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 8:11:21 GMT
He is likely to find his listing pulled. He may feel aggrieved, but ebay is not the place to be making unsubstantiated allegations.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 28, 2019 8:24:41 GMT
He is likely to find his listing pulled. He may feel aggrieved, but ebay is not the place to be making unsubstantiated allegations. Good find, Shane. I like the seller’s style. Word will spread quickly, as it has done here. It is now the most important thing I know about Horning.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 8:32:06 GMT
He is likely to find his listing pulled. He may feel aggrieved, but ebay is not the place to be making unsubstantiated allegations. Good find, Shane. I like the seller’s style. Word will spread quickly, as it has done here. It is now the most important thing I know about Horning. We should copy and paste it to here before ebay remove it, as Geoff said. I was thinking we could have an archive of specific bits of kit, like HiFi engine does but I seem to buy things even they don't list lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 8:40:56 GMT
I'd sooner spend £150 on a sweet sounding Pioneer PD-S505 Precision.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 28, 2019 9:03:31 GMT
Good find, Shane. I like the seller’s style. Word will spread quickly, as it has done here. It is now the most important thing I know about Horning. We should copy and paste it to here before ebay remove it, as Geoff said. I was thinking we could have an archive of specific bits of kit, like HiFi engine does but I seem to buy things even they don't list lol “This is a serious and unique offer to sell an unused pair of the latest Agalme speakers. This is the only new and unused pair in the UK. Quite possibly the finest, most true to life speakers ever made. Agalme are for those who know and love the Lowther sound and want it without limitations at the frequency extremes. Tommy Hoerning’s own words: “The Agalme is for me the crowning of my effort to make the best solution and is my statement. There will not come something after this; let alone the huge cost for me to make the Agalme cabinet which gives the best inside movement of sound waves in order to meet the new PM65 driver in the most perfect way.” The special Horning designed Lowther PM65 drivers are removed from the cabinet for protection and also shipping that way makes it much easier to move the massive weight around as without that cavity there is nothing to hold onto at the front. They have stayed removed since I stored the speakers in my living room. Other than being tested in the factory these speakers have not been played. The magnetic grills are also set aside and wrapped up as they need to fit around the Lowther for support. The six Beyma woofers at the back of each speaker are the original non-neodymium units for which the cabinet was designed. Before placing a bid please call me to discuss payment and collection and to clarify any issues. I will not accept a paypal payment for this value. Cash, BACS or CHAPS only please. The Speakers are located near Aberdeen. They stand 2m tall and weight over 110kg each. They are supplied with two heavy wooden crates. Total weight around 300kg. I will commit to ship the two boxes by door to door direct courier anywhere within the UK mainland for £500. Expect delivery to take 2 weeks to plan and implement correctly. If the price reaches over £24.500 then i will ship for free, UK only. I will not ship overseas but can help at this end supervising the loading for those prepared to organize their own transport. I have a solid reputation on eBay when it comes to selling high end audio. Serious buyers should call with any questions. Tel no is 077 9198 4561 (deleted as requested) to discuss delivery details. All purchases to go through the eBay system. Explanation and warning on dealing with Tommy Horning I’m in an unfortunate position with these speakers, as my wife will not have these speakers in the house, and it has nothing to do with WAF. People have asked the question and I’ll be open and honest. This is a situation between me and Tommy Horning. I paid him in advance for the Agalme speakers + Sati turntable + Sati RIAA phono amp in order to help him with buying materials, cash flow and treated him as a friend. This involved a serious amount of money invested years in advance. He only delivered the speakers - NOT the turntable and NOT the amp. He then claimed that the Danish tax authorities took all that he had. Even though he is now obviously successfully back in business and trading through the same Danish sole trader company Hørning Hybrid System v/Anne Mette Biehe CVR: 27163971 which he has in the name of his partner Anne Mette, he refuses to provide the goods I paid for on the grounds that he is not married to Anne Mette and feels that this is a perfectly acceptable and normal way of running a business. Tommy is a good designer but dishonest in the extreme and has lost his way in life. He is in fact a thief and I've had at least five messages on eBay attesting to similar experiences with him. Even past dealers have shunned him for his complete dishonesty and inability to operate a business which is not focused on lining his own pocket above all. The Eufodite/Agalme mk1 line of speakers are probably the last great Horning speakers. the rest is all about cost cutting and trying to recover badly executed modification by removing bass drivers and installing blanking plates at the cost of the distributor. The cabinets are no longer built to the same standard as his original danish builder who dumped him due to unpaid bills. Tommy is Fubar. The new Horning importer in the UK, Willow Tree Audio, is aware of the situation, as is High Water Sound in New York. Lowther UK have also been advised. Tommy Horning doesn't seem to care about their opinion preferring to bury his head in the sand and hope I go away. He feels that because his company is in his wife/partner's name, he has no obligation to pay the company's debts. it's all a joke for him. Just for the record, I would say High Water Sound are an excellent company beyond reproach. Lowther is a business that deserves to survive. My comments are in no way a reflection on these two companies. If anyone needs to know more and I'll provide correspondence between me and Tommy going back some years.” Open Letter to Tommy Hoerning Tommy, I fully paid for a SATI turntable and SATI phono amplifier in 2013 – a full five years ago. They were never delivered to me as you know. I gave you the money in advance to buy the nanocrystal transformer cores. I supported you when the Danish speaker cabinet company went into liquidation in 2014 (which you claimed but since have found out that you were not paying their bills). I paid for everything in full before taking any delivery – stupid but I tried to help you and trusted you. I chased you through all of 2015 to deliver the items, until in 2016 you told me that you have lost everything to the Danish tax man. I gave you some time to get your business back together. In 2017 I found out from Lowther and your international distributers that you were doing solid business with them. I have other communications which I will not revealed. Clearly you are making money from your business, you are active and you are in a position to send me a new turntable and phono stage as you are doing so to other clients. I have paid more for the turntable than others have - and then consider how much a loan would cost you for some many thousands of Euros. Why do you steal from me while sending equipment to new buyers? So, when are you going to send me my goods? How long must I wait? This eBay listing will one day be finished and will be deleted from digital history. So far - I have avoided telling my story on the audio forums where the history stays for ever. Where anyone who wants to know about Horning loudspeakers or Tommy Horning will have permanent access. Is that the Horning Legacy you want to leave your son? How would he feel when he knows the internet is full of true stories about his father being a thief? Your company’s name is under your wife’s name. Does she know what you have done to me? Does the congregation in her church where she plays the piano know? I’ve been good to you since I bought the Agathons from you in 2008 (photo attached just to remind you - my expensive AudioTruth Dragon+ silver cables were badly connected but that is a separate story.) In fact I have since learned that the tweeters in those Agathons were also marked as faulty. All you have done is ruin what once was a great hobby of mine, and in fact have affected my marriage and family for years. Think about it Tommy – don’t feel for one minute that because I don’t pester you every month that this theft has been forgotten or is over. Will your family have to pay for your weakness? Are you man enough to face up to the responsibility yourself? You have my contact details.
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Post by macca on Sept 28, 2019 9:23:10 GMT
That ads been on eBay for several months now - at least. if the bloke owes him money and he has proof of it he needs to start proceedings. Or just move on with his life.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 16:14:20 GMT
Listing has ended, lol. S.
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Post by macca on Sept 28, 2019 16:38:13 GMT
Half that price would be more realistic. Very rare to see one in that cond and boxed too! 1500 is about where I'd expect that to be but I wouldn't expect him to sell it, unless someone really wants the matching a to their pre. He may not be far off a miracle if someone needs it. Yes they are rare but that doesn't make it worth more money. If it was rare and sought after £1500 would be fair enough. But they are not sought after. The Rotel badge does not command high prices. If you bought it at £1500 you might be looking at as much as a thousand pound loss moving it on. I remember when they came out. The pre-power combo got a mediocre review in HFW and elsewhere IIRC.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 16:39:51 GMT
Very rare to see one in that cond and boxed too! 1500 is about where I'd expect that to be but I wouldn't expect him to sell it, unless someone really wants the matching a to their pre. He may not be far off a miracle if someone needs it. Yes they are rare but that doesn't make it worth more money. If it was rare and sought after £1500 would be fair enough. But they are not sought after. The Rotel badge does not command high prices. If you bought it at £1500 you might be looking at as much as a thousand pound loss moving it on. I remember when they came out. The pre-power combo got a mediocre review in HFW and elsewhere IIRC. I totally agree but as we know, it's all about whether someone needs it. Not a lot of people buy for SQ Purposes lol
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Post by nonuffin on Sept 28, 2019 18:22:12 GMT
Very rare to see one in that cond and boxed too! 1500 is about where I'd expect that to be but I wouldn't expect him to sell it, unless someone really wants the matching a to their pre. He may not be far off a miracle if someone needs it. Yes they are rare but that doesn't make it worth more money. If it was rare and sought after £1500 would be fair enough. But they are not sought after. The Rotel badge does not command high prices. If you bought it at £1500 you might be looking at as much as a thousand pound loss moving it on. I remember when they came out. The pre-power combo got a mediocre review in HFW and elsewhere IIRC. I bought a Michi power amp around 10 years ago was underwhelmed by the sound of it
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Post by macca on Sept 28, 2019 18:43:33 GMT
I bet you didn't pay fifteen hundred notes for it either.
There's some gems in the Rotel canon but a lot of them are all fur coat and no knickers.
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