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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 28, 2019 19:42:38 GMT
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Post by nonuffin on Sept 28, 2019 20:14:14 GMT
It's only a one tub washing machine Westie - a transport on it's own.
It has the word "rare" in the description, so do you expect any less from this piss taker?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 20:24:23 GMT
Does the ROK-1 really use cheap parts? Not even a decent Phillips CDM9? s. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 28, 2019 20:38:49 GMT
Does the ROK-1 really use cheap parts? Not even a decent Phillips CDM9? s. Yeah it’s a crappy Sanyo. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 28, 2019 20:40:52 GMT
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Post by macca on Sept 28, 2019 20:47:48 GMT
He hasn't got a clue though really he's just guessing. Nowt wrong with a Sanyo or Panasonic mech anyway. But £1100 is about £950 more than I'd pay. Is it really a fibreboard case? That's nasty if it is.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 28, 2019 20:52:14 GMT
As far as I recall, it was fibreboard. There were a few threads across the net covering the crappy build. Buying most Brit players was a joke anyway because they just bought any old shite, dressed it in a fancy case, stick a toroid in and called it their own, before putting a silly price tag on it.
Worst one for me was the DPA T1 transport. A Marantz CD 42 literally dumped wholesale into an aluminium case, after hacksawing a section of the rear away to make room for a clock that did F#ck all. The little pimpled squirt from DPA at the Heathrow show was telling everyone how it blew away a Krell!
BTW I’ve owned two of these so I’ve seen and heard them first hand. I paid under £100 and was still robbed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 23:40:50 GMT
Summert i hate is peeps claiming something has had a full service, when you know full well it aint
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 5:38:52 GMT
Why anyone would buy a CD player in this day and age is beyond me!!
*awaits abuse* lol
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Post by macca on Oct 4, 2019 7:19:07 GMT
I think that buying a cd is still the best way to get an album that you want even if you are just going to copy it to a hard drive and then store it. 1) You know the provenance of the recording so can be certain it hasn't been compromised by DRM, watermarking or been 'sexed up' to 'sound better'. 2) Should your drives fail, your internet go down, your streaming service go broke you still have access to the music. 3) The artist gets paid more of a royalty Buying a cd player is maybe a bit harder to justify but I'll try 1) it's simpler than file based system. Not everyone is computer literate enough to set that up. CD players are plug and play. 2) There's less to go wrong. Some people seem to have serial issues with their streaming set ups. 3) Some can't be bothered with the faff of getting it all set up and working even if they know how. 4) Some work with computers day in day out and don't want to be using yet another computer to play music in their free time. Arguments that file based has intrinsically superior sound quality are not backed up either on paper or - IME - in listening. Although I'm not saying it is intrinsically worse either. I'll get to the abuse later  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 7:53:34 GMT
Why anyone would buy a CD player in this day and age is beyond me!! *awaits abuse* lol Obvious innit. They need something to play their collection of CD's on. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 4, 2019 7:53:44 GMT
Why anyone would buy a CD player in this day and age is beyond me!! *awaits abuse* lol In my experience the best players have sounded way better than lossless. But the main thing is that I hate computers and would never be able to enjoy music whilst using them. I also like the gear as much as the sound. That Pi thing you showed was an abomination and would never cross my doorstep  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 7:54:52 GMT
I think that buying a cd is still the best way to get an album that you want even if you are just going to copy it to a hard drive and then store it. 1) You know the provenance of the recording so can be certain it hasn't been compromised by DRM, watermarking or been 'sexed up' to 'sound better'. 2) Should your drives fail, your internet go down, your streaming service go broke you still have access to the music. 3) The artist gets paid more of a royalty Buying a cd player is maybe a bit harder to justify but I'll try 1) it's simpler than file based system. Not everyone is computer literate enough to set that up. CD players are plug and play. 2) There's less to go wrong. Some people seem to have serial issues with their streaming set ups. 3) Some can't be bothered with the faff of getting it all set up and working even if they know how. 4) Some work with computers day in day out and don't want to be using yet another computer to play music in their free time. Arguments that file based has intrinsically superior sound quality are not backed up either on paper or - IME - in listening. Although I'm not saying it is intrinsically worse either. I'll get to the abuse later hahaha,
Yes, buying a CD does make sense, especially at £1 a go. I do this to rip the files off and use them via streaming.
As for CD v Streaming, I like streaming more than CD but also accept that it could be beyond most, as most of it is beyond me lol.
I have had no issues via the RPi combo in terms of stability but yes, people do have issues.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 7:55:28 GMT
Why anyone would buy a CD player in this day and age is beyond me!! *awaits abuse* lol Obvious innit. They need something to play their collection of CD's on. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 7:58:40 GMT
Why anyone would buy a CD player in this day and age is beyond me!! *awaits abuse* lol In my experience the best players have sounded way better than lossless. But the main thing is that I hate computers and would never be able to enjoy music whilst using them. I also like the gear as much as the sound. That Pi thing you showed was an abomination and would never cross my doorstep lol, It's the future! |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 4, 2019 8:04:58 GMT
I’ve been saying it for years, but it needs to become as user friendly as a CD player and require no downloads, patches, tweaks, fiddling etc to make music. No interaction with a computer in any way is a must.For me it also needs to be properly built by a decent hifi company,
All these pi things are pieces of crap AFAIC. The future generations probably won’t care as much but when you’ve been used to the sort of hifi I’ve grown up with, there’s no way you’d accept the tat that gets churned out for streaming.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 8:20:55 GMT
I’ve been saying it for years, but it needs to become as user friendly as a CD player and require no downloads, patches, tweaks, fiddling etc to make music. No interaction with a computer in any way is a must.For me it also needs to be properly built by a decent hifi company, All these pi things are pieces of crap AFAIC. The future generations probably won’t care as much but when you’ve been used to the sort of hifi I’ve grown up with, there’s no way you’d accept the tat that gets churned out for streaming. The stuff you grew up with! A CPU would have been the size of a house to offer the same level of performance you get from a modern day Pi lol
Seriously, Andrew, I implore you to get a listen to one. You don't need a CPU, or anything magic to make them work and sound rather superb. An app on your ipad will control it and if you add a HDD (with the files on) directly into the Pi, you are fully setup and never need to touch a keyboard.
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Post by macca on Oct 4, 2019 8:24:24 GMT
I’ve been saying it for years, but it needs to become as user friendly as a CD player and require no downloads, patches, tweaks, fiddling etc to make music. No interaction with a computer in any way is a must.For me it also needs to be properly built by a decent hifi company, Pretty close to my requirements. Needs to be one box with everything in it including a CD drive so I can copy my CDs onto it. And that shouldn't take more than 30 seconds per disc. if I want to make a back up I should be able to plug in another hard drive or a stick and press one button and it copies everything over. Modular inside so if an element goes down you can just drop in a replacement. Wireless connectivity, don't want to have to run a cable to the router. Comes with a remote with a large display screen that you can control everything from. Don't want to be faffing about trying to get my telephone to 'talk' to it. Needs to be properly built and look like it. Needs to measure well - i.e noise and distortion below audible thresholds. Don't want an effects box or something that 'sounds like analogue' Costs £500 or less. I don't care if it is made by someone I never heard of in China providing it fits all the criteria above. Maybe such a product already exisits, not seen it if it does though. But if it does or will do in the future then I'd get one. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 4, 2019 8:45:21 GMT
I’ve been saying it for years, but it needs to become as user friendly as a CD player and require no downloads, patches, tweaks, fiddling etc to make music. No interaction with a computer in any way is a must.For me it also needs to be properly built by a decent hifi company, All these pi things are pieces of crap AFAIC. The future generations probably won’t care as much but when you’ve been used to the sort of hifi I’ve grown up with, there’s no way you’d accept the tat that gets churned out for streaming. The stuff you grew up with! A CPU would have been the size of a house to offer the same level of performance you get from a modern day Pi lol
Seriously, Andrew, I implore you to get a listen to one. You don't need a CPU, or anything magic to make them work and sound rather superb. An app on your ipad will control it and if you add a HDD (with the files on) directly into the Pi, you are fully setup and never need to touch a keyboard.
I’ve already tried streaming and lossless file based listening. I hated it and got no pleasure. My need for battleship traditional build from a respected long-standing maker is as essential to me as having no computers, inc any Windows or Android based tat in my life. Remember, to me the gear is at least as important as the music. I left TAS because all they did was harp on endlessly about this stuff. Between pi tat and fuses, it took over from real hifi to the point where the stuff I love was never talked about. If someone offered me for free, the best streaming or file based music system you can get. Even if they offered to fit it and pay lifetime subscriptions too, I wouldn’t entertain it. If they installed it whilst I was out, I’d pay to have it taken away and destroyed. Hell, I’d probably video the destruction. That’s how “anti” this stuff I am. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 8:48:43 GMT
The stuff you grew up with! A CPU would have been the size of a house to offer the same level of performance you get from a modern day Pi lol
Seriously, Andrew, I implore you to get a listen to one. You don't need a CPU, or anything magic to make them work and sound rather superb. An app on your ipad will control it and if you add a HDD (with the files on) directly into the Pi, you are fully setup and never need to touch a keyboard.
I’ve already tried streaming and lossless file based listening. I hated it and got no pleasure. My need for battleship traditional build from a respected long-standing maker is as essential to me as having no computers, inc any Windows or Android based tat in my life. Remember, to me the gear is at least as important as the music. I left TAS because all they did was harp on endlessly about this stuff. Between pi tat and fuses, it took over from real hifi to the point where the stuff I love was never talked about. If someone offered me for free, the best streaming or file based music system you can get. Even if they offered to fit it and pay lifetime subscriptions too, I wouldn’t entertain it. If they installed it whilst I was out, I’d pay to have it taken away and destroyed. Hell, I’d probably video the destruction. That’s how “anti” this stuff I am. Not gonna lie, I laughed all the way through reading that. I love your stance. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 8:50:00 GMT
I’ve been saying it for years, but it needs to become as user friendly as a CD player and require no downloads, patches, tweaks, fiddling etc to make music. No interaction with a computer in any way is a must.For me it also needs to be properly built by a decent hifi company, Pretty close to my requirements. Needs to be one box with everything in it including a CD drive so I can copy my CDs onto it. And that shouldn't take more than 30 seconds per disc. if I want to make a back up I should be able to plug in another hard drive or a stick and press one button and it copies everything over. Modular inside so if an element goes down you can just drop in a replacement. Wireless connectivity, don't want to have to run a cable to the router. Comes with a remote with a large display screen that you can control everything from. Don't want to be faffing about trying to get my telephone to 'talk' to it. Needs to be properly built and look like it. Needs to measure well - i.e noise and distortion below audible thresholds. Don't want an effects box or something that 'sounds like analogue' Costs £500 or less. I don't care if it is made by someone I never heard of in China providing it fits all the criteria above. Maybe such a product already exisits, not seen it if it does though. But if it does or will do in the future then I'd get one. Not too much then lol |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 4, 2019 8:58:32 GMT
I’ve already tried streaming and lossless file based listening. I hated it and got no pleasure. My need for battleship traditional build from a respected long-standing maker is as essential to me as having no computers, inc any Windows or Android based tat in my life. Remember, to me the gear is at least as important as the music. I left TAS because all they did was harp on endlessly about this stuff. Between pi tat and fuses, it took over from real hifi to the point where the stuff I love was never talked about. If someone offered me for free, the best streaming or file based music system you can get. Even if they offered to fit it and pay lifetime subscriptions too, I wouldn’t entertain it. If they installed it whilst I was out, I’d pay to have it taken away and destroyed. Hell, I’d probably video the destruction. That’s how “anti” this stuff I am. Not gonna lie, I laughed all the way through reading that. I love your stance. I laugh about it now, but several pieces of Windows based tech have been destroyed due to the rage they have induced. One laptop got pounded to death (Vista) and another went sailing out of an upstairs window onto the driveway. I even followed it downstairs, put some boots on and stomped it to death. Enjoyed every second! These days I just don’t go there, it’s cheaper and better for my blood pressure. |
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Post by macca on Oct 4, 2019 9:08:11 GMT
It would need to be all of that to equal the convenience of just putting a cd in a drawer and pressing play.
What are the supposed advantages?
1) You can access all the music in the world - Yes, If you pay £19.99 a month, and if you are not fussy about the mastering of the version they give you. And I've already got about 75% of the music I like on CD. I'm not going to start listening to London Grammar just because I can.
2) Superior sound quality - nope. A CD is already effectively the master as a far as playback is concerned. And with cd you can decide which master you want.
3) Gets rid of clutter. You can box up all your cds and put them in the loft. - Don't care about clutter as I'm not anal or ocd.
4) Saves space - yes would save me three shelves of a bookcase. Whoo Hoo. People who say this usually live in much bigger houses than I do too so F#ck knows what that's all about. If you have ten thousand CDs then maybe but no-one does.
is there anything I missed?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 9:22:10 GMT
It would need to be all of that to equal the convenience of just putting a cd in a drawer and pressing play. What are the supposed advantages? 1) You can access all the music in the world - Yes, If you pay £19.99 a month, and if you are not fussy about the mastering of the version they give you. And I've already got about 75% of the music I like on CD. I'm not going to start listening to London Grammar just because I can. 2) Superior sound quality - nope. A CD is already effectively the master as a far as playback is concerned. And with cd you can decide which master you want. 3) Gets rid of clutter. You can box up all your cds and put them in the loft. - Don't care about clutter as I'm not anal or ocd. 4) Saves space - yes would save me three shelves of a bookcase. Whoo Hoo. People who say this usually live in much bigger houses than I do too so F#ck knows what that's all about. If you have ten thousand CDs then maybe but no-one does. is there anything I missed? Sounds about right. My few hundred CD's occupy one shelf and are no problem. I have the music I want and like, so why would I want to pay monthly to hear it streamed? (my couple of hundred records are in an ottoman that doubles as a seat, so no problem there either) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 9:27:26 GMT
Streaming / Files the invisible medium.
I actually enjoy the physical contact of a format, I enjoy digging oot an LP or to a lesser extent a CD and going through the ritual.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 9:45:56 GMT
Not gonna lie, I laughed all the way through reading that. I love your stance. I laugh about it now, but several pieces of Windows based tech have been destroyed due to the rage they have induced. One laptop got pounded to death (Vista) and another went sailing out of an upstairs window onto the driveway. I even followed it downstairs, put some boots on and stomped it to death. Enjoyed every second! These days I just don’t go there, it’s cheaper and better for my blood pressure.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 10:22:19 GMT
I think that buying a cd is still the best way to get an album that you want even if you are just going to copy it to a hard drive and then store it. 1) You know the provenance of the recording so can be certain it hasn't been compromised by DRM, watermarking or been 'sexed up' to 'sound better'. 2) Should your drives fail, your internet go down, your streaming service go broke you still have access to the music. 3) The artist gets paid more of a royalty Buying a cd player is maybe a bit harder to justify but I'll try 1) it's simpler than file based system. Not everyone is computer literate enough to set that up. CD players are plug and play. 2) There's less to go wrong. Some people seem to have serial issues with their streaming set ups. 3) Some can't be bothered with the faff of getting it all set up and working even if they know how. 4) Some work with computers day in day out and don't want to be using yet another computer to play music in their free time. Arguments that file based has intrinsically superior sound quality are not backed up either on paper or - IME - in listening. Although I'm not saying it is intrinsically worse either. I'll get to the abuse later ofc. All my albums are ripped from CD. i would not have it any other way, I also know full well that is a true FLAC rip that way.. Im not interested in an higher resolution than what i CD can give you.. You would have to be as thick as two short planks if you find a File based choice harder than putting on a CD Like anything else in Hi-Fi, people make things hard. The best thing of all is that File based systems are perfect for idle basterds like myself & ofc you do not have the hassle in finding another CD player like the one you maybe using if your breaks down, cos it will you know. All computers do the same thing, work the same way. Just as a side note Playing Lossless files from your Hard Drive or what ever storage you maybe keeping them on is reliable, Streaming Music is not. |
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Post by sq225917 on Oct 4, 2019 18:30:10 GMT
Even though I have a very good pi stack I resent it. I dislike the lack of a physical interface and find myself cherry picking rather than enjoying whole albums.
Cd is where its at.
Even though I have a very good cd player I resent it. I dislike the lack of a real physical artifact, i miss the theatre of vinyl and find myself cherry picking rather than enjoying whole albums.
Vinyl is where it's at.
Even though I have a very good vinyl front end I resent it. I dislike the lack of a physical interface with the musicians and find myself cherry picking rather than enjoying whole performances and a good meal and a hotel with the mrs.
Live music is where it's at.
Even though I have a very good mrs I resent her. I dislike the physical interface and find myself cherry picking favourite features rather than enjoying the whole.
A young mistress is where it's at.
Even though I have a young mistress I'm firmly of the opinion that you cant beat a good W#nk...
And that's the trouble with hifi, were all just disappointed wankers.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 4, 2019 19:26:23 GMT
Even though I have a very good pi stack I resent it. I dislike the lack of a physical interface and find myself cherry picking rather than enjoying whole albums. Cd is where its at. Even though I have a very good cd player I resent it. I dislike the lack of a real physical artifact, i miss the theatre of vinyl and find myself cherry picking rather than enjoying whole albums. Vinyl is where it's at. Even though I have a very good vinyl front end I resent it. I dislike the lack of a physical interface with the musicians and find myself cherry picking rather than enjoying whole performances and a good meal and a hotel with the mrs. Live music is where it's at. Even though I have a very good mrs I resent her. I dislike the physical interface and find myself cherry picking favourite features rather than enjoying the whole. A young mistress is where it's at. Even though I have a young mistress I'm firmly of the opinion that you cant beat a good W#nk... And that's the trouble with hifi, were all just disappointed wankers. Great post! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 19:51:15 GMT
Even though I have a very good pi stack I resent it. I dislike the lack of a physical interface and find myself cherry picking rather than enjoying whole albums. Cd is where its at. Even though I have a very good cd player I resent it. I dislike the lack of a real physical artifact, i miss the theatre of vinyl and find myself cherry picking rather than enjoying whole albums. Vinyl is where it's at. Even though I have a very good vinyl front end I resent it. I dislike the lack of a physical interface with the musicians and find myself cherry picking rather than enjoying whole performances and a good meal and a hotel with the mrs. Live music is where it's at. Even though I have a very good mrs I resent her. I dislike the physical interface and find myself cherry picking favourite features rather than enjoying the whole. A young mistress is where it's at. Even though I have a young mistress I'm firmly of the opinion that you cant beat a good W#nk... And that's the trouble with hifi, were all just disappointed wankers. Hahaha, that was class. Too marks. |
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