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Aug 3, 2019 9:45:43 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 9:45:43 GMT
only way i would stop work now is
100k in the bank
i can have some income without working..10% interest rates would work for me with 100k in the bank..8k a year coming in for doing nothing..
me wife earns more than enough for us to pay the bills on..i dont wanna live just paying the bills..we worked hard to clear the mortgage and live like royalty. me giving up work would be a bland existence for us all.
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Aug 3, 2019 9:47:32 GMT
Post by macca on Aug 3, 2019 9:47:32 GMT
Dad used to get a generous tax free pension for getting badly wounded in the war & worked till he got made redundant from the docks at 55, Mum had a variety of part time jobs in the print & as a cleaner so they lived a reasonably comfortable life. Although I'm an only child I don't consider they spoilt me but they were a bit over protective. I left school on the Friday & started at Natwest on the Monday, jobs were plentiful (this was 1975) and I plumped for the most local one. After 4 years there I got a job on the council & worked there till I retired 5 years ago. Guess I've been lucky? Born at the right time Roy. I've had 27 different jobs with 16 companies. Redundant twice with no pay-out, and quit three times because the job/pay/employer were so bad I wasn't putting up with it.
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Aug 3, 2019 9:56:02 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 9:56:02 GMT
Born at the right time Roy. It would seem so Martin although in my later years at the council working in a technical department (with Architects, Surveyors & Engineers) we were under constant threat of being externalised via compulsory competitive tendering (I was a key player in helping us swerve that one) & various flavours of partnering with external companies which ultimately did happen but all under our terms so the partner got all the crap work we didn't want
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Aug 3, 2019 10:04:09 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 10:04:09 GMT
yeah being self employed is awesome westie-lad i loved it in london.. cant do it here..65% income tax ..aint gonna happen
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 10:24:17 GMT
I have been self employed for 20 years now. It would be a huge shock to have to take orders from a boss. Love doing my own thing.
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Aug 3, 2019 10:24:43 GMT
Post by Bigman80 on Aug 3, 2019 10:24:43 GMT
I don’t blame you, Rudi, but your job is pretty much free to do what you want whilst your employer picks up all the responsibilities, Plus you get to see tangible results for your efforts.
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Aug 3, 2019 19:27:10 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 19:27:10 GMT
I tried to get on the community programme doing work in parks and gardens and they had no vacancies! No vacancies for unpaid volunteer work! That's how bad it was. The good bit was everyone I knew was in the same boat, so plenty of people to hang out with, listen to music, generally have a good time even on no money. Lived on baked potatoes and cheese on toast, brewed my own beer. Go to gigs, smoke loads of weed, it wasn't actually a bad life. I fondly remember being unemployed. It's much simpler budgeting when you have a certain amount of cashmoney to get you through the week, and no long-term commitments. I never brewed my own beer, though. I'd buy a bottle of cheap sherry like some old wino and spin it out as long as possible. My very first job, in the early '70s, was in the Youth Employment Service in Liverpool. Even back then there were few jobs to be had. Two that stuck around were a trainee french polisher at an undertaker's, and a job repairing false teeth. Both paid about £8 a week. We had lads signing on who'd been laid off from working at Stanlow pipe-laying, who'd been on £30 a week, so not surprisingly they weren't interested. What was odd was how territorial the lads were; my lot were from South Liverpool and there's no way any of them would have gone to North Liverpool for a job. Some were reluctant to go into Central Liverpool, even. The North Liverpool lot had a separate signing-on day. One week, for some reason, both lots arrived on the same day. We had to get the police in.
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Aug 3, 2019 19:30:44 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 19:30:44 GMT
I spent 4 years on the dole when all the money I had was whatever cash was in my pocket. A lot of the time it was just a couple of quid. So I like to have some cash in my pocket, say about a ton. Even decades on I still find it re-assuring. Spent six weeks on the dole when I was nineteen, but I was also moonlighting on a building site, Rudi would have dobbed you in to the Dole Office quick-time.
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Aug 3, 2019 19:37:26 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 19:37:26 GMT
only way i would stop work now is 100k in the bank i can have some income without working..10% interest rates would work for me with 100k in the bank..8k a year coming in for doing nothing.. me wife earns more than enough for us to pay the bills on..i dont wanna live just paying the bills..we worked hard to clear the mortgage and live like royalty. me giving up work would be a bland existence for us all. I gave up work at 58. Mortgage was paid off, no other debts. My only regret is not packing it in earlier; the last couple of years weren't very pleasant for various reasons. My wife still works part-time, because she enjoys the work, but we don't need the money and she could quit whenever she wanted to.
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Aug 4, 2019 5:00:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 5:00:34 GMT
lad's me dickhead neighbours are 57 and owe over 300k mortgage the other neighbour is 48 and owes the same. what you all think of that then?
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Aug 4, 2019 6:44:34 GMT
Post by macca on Aug 4, 2019 6:44:34 GMT
I suppose if they are on interest only mortgages they'll still owe £300K when they are 78. But if the pensions are so good there then no problem to carry on servicing the debt after retirement.
I wouldn't fancy it though.
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Aug 4, 2019 9:24:48 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 9:24:48 GMT
So much depends on individual circumstances. A friend of ours took on a huge mortgage to buy a house in Kew. We thought he was mad to take on that amount of debt. Two years later he was made redundant, paid off his mortgage and got a low-key, stress-free job in a local firm. His house is now worth several million pounds.
Personally, I'm risk-averse to extremes.
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Aug 4, 2019 9:51:23 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 9:51:23 GMT
I am in my late forties and have two mortgages, but it does not worry me, as it is perfectly manageable. My pension from the U.K. was frozen, and has now been invested in an offshore scheme, so when I retire, I will have my state pension, money from my French pension and from my invested pension.
Then I plan to sell half my garden (about an acre) for development purposes, shortly followed by the house and move out of Toulouse. Things should be ok.
At that point I will be too old to invest in a decent HoFi as it will be pointless, due to hearing loss, so I will just enjoy life, which should be relatively cheap and trouble free.... .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 10:22:03 GMT
who wants to owe money once past 50 ffs. not me. i think by 50 all your debts should be finished..then you have 15 years to build a lump of cash for your retirement.. putting yourself under financial strain when your approaching old age is just plain stupid. 50 was my goal and i missed it by 2 years. nowadays me only worry is if we save more than my entire salary each month.. had 2 years 100 percent debt free now and it's fekin awesome. like i said all the time u owe someone money you'll always be in the firing line of baylifs coming knocking.
plus what plans do you have if the worse case senario happens you both become ill and unable to work then interest rates go through the roof..goodbye your home that's what. even if we both get ill we'de never loose our home..when things are going real good in life you have to make sure things are gonna be ok if things go bad
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Aug 4, 2019 14:49:39 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 14:49:39 GMT
Different approach to me. I plan to sell this house when I retire, and move to my place in the country. My apartment will go to my daughter. I will retire with a large wad of cash in the bank, and an income from three different pensions. Retirement should be comfortable, and the most important thing is that I will have given my daughter an awesome start in life. She will be pretty much mortgage free, and all the money she earns will be hers.
That is much more important than me being debt free at 50.
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Aug 4, 2019 14:57:41 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 14:57:41 GMT
yeah helping ya kids out should be the law giving them a place mortgage free not so sure about that. unless ya bill gates aye..if our son takes this house off us in say 10 years time we'll get it valued and let him have it half price if we can afford to. if he dont want this gaff then we'll be giving him his 25 percent deposit for sure..ffs he has 20 grands worth of car n bikes already at 15..those ofc we paid for.. if u can afford it spoiling ya kids is great but buying them a house outright i'm not so sure
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 15:06:45 GMT
If she has an apartment, she can buy her own car. I am not giving her everything. I have thought about renting her the apartment when she wants it, so she learns the value of money. The idea is that I stash all of the cash away, and give it to her if she ever needs it.
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Aug 18, 2019 9:09:14 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 9:09:14 GMT
we get paid on friday marie will have the highest salary of her 30 years at work i should have around 3 grand after tax. we got very few bills and a low 1.5k credit card bill.. should be 4k plus in the savings i rekon
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Aug 18, 2019 10:18:03 GMT
Post by macca on Aug 18, 2019 10:18:03 GMT
I spent a shitload last month, wiped out everything I saved during the previous four. Getting a new front door next week, that's another £650 right there.
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Aug 18, 2019 10:18:58 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 10:18:58 GMT
Sh#t u have a back up fund though macca.
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Aug 18, 2019 10:28:24 GMT
Post by macca on Aug 18, 2019 10:28:24 GMT
Yeah I only spent what I had saved in the four months. About two and half grand. The Krell was a big chunk of that mind.
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Aug 18, 2019 13:07:04 GMT
Post by antonio on Aug 18, 2019 13:07:04 GMT
I hate it when I dip into my 'back up fund', the mattress gets bumpy.
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Aug 22, 2019 13:08:09 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 13:08:09 GMT
wow wow wow what an incredible month..i earnt 4.5k this month plus 1.6k me own jobs marie earnt just under 7k
so around almost 13 000 quid this month lol 8000 quid after tax in total..gonna save about 5 grand tomorrow...will have over 30k in the bank next month..i need a bigger garage for all the cars i'm gonna end owning when i retire...would be nice to have a triple garage with 3 tasty cars i rekon lol
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Aug 22, 2019 13:46:29 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 13:46:29 GMT
i want to buy a 2 or 3 year old mazda mx-5 this weekend..found one for 16 grand 2016 model..problem is it's almost winter...get a better price buying one now though
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Aug 22, 2019 14:21:04 GMT
Post by macca on Aug 22, 2019 14:21:04 GMT
just keep the hard top on, added to which with the hard top on people won't automatically assume you're a hairdresser.
What colour you going for? really there's only 3 acceptable colours with an MX5 - Black, British Racing Green and Mustard.
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Aug 28, 2019 19:36:19 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 19:36:19 GMT
Does not make ya life better lads ok. big house. flash cars ect. wont make ya life any better . Things just bring problems. better to live a basic humble life but being totaly debt free is the way to be. owing money to anyone is not good place to put yourself..once all debts are removed then you'll live a good life. loaning money to buy flash things like a car is clinical insanity imho..only a fool does that shite. listen to a man that has it all and owes nothing. better to live a humble life easily within your means than to live a life in debt and stressed day in day out. Mate you may have had too much money for too long but im afraid to say it makes a hell of a difference & certainly makes it better in a lot of ways. Totally debt free does not cancel out bills you have to pay which does equate to worry. You can sit in the house for a month & not move, the same old bills come thru the door. However mate its easy for you to say two well paid wages coming in every month. And as you keep saying the other half fetches in twice as much as you its pretty much as good as three good wages coming in..
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Aug 28, 2019 20:22:56 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 20:22:56 GMT
I think Hucker has left the building. But, anyway, I lived with huge debts for ten or so years. Fortunately, my health was good and I kept my job, though it could all have gone horribly wrong.
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Aug 28, 2019 20:45:03 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 20:45:03 GMT
I was left with unbelievable debt which took 18/19 years to clear. Took every penny i had. You come out the other end but my chances of buying a new house were put pay to. No way could i ever re pay a mortgage in my 50's.
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Aug 29, 2019 13:29:33 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 13:29:33 GMT
Never made debt ever, if it were not for being debt free, I would be living on the street. As long as the few bills are squared up every month, electric, water, rates, fiber, phone, car insurance, and the complex levy, and there is food in the cupboard, animals are fed all is well. Do not need a heater here, can live without, and if I do use it, 9kg gas once a year is not bad. Bit of rainy day money invested and left alone.
House is paid up, car was bought for cash, it has new tires and brakes, service it my self, it is a Corolla so it ain't going to give Sh#t, spares if you need are cheap, no rust problems, and MOT Sh#t here. Road tax here is peanuts.
Not spending any more money on the system either, enough is enough, have got it to the stage where more money would only bring incremental changes, and not improvements.
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