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Post by antonio on May 27, 2019 16:50:05 GMT
I really didn't know what the price should be.
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Post by Bigman80 on May 27, 2019 18:29:46 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on May 27, 2019 18:33:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 19:29:52 GMT
Heard of them, but know nothing about them. |
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Post by Bigman80 on May 27, 2019 19:42:42 GMT
Class A battleship product from the former Yugoslavia. They do a matching valve pre and both look superbly built.
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Post by macca on May 27, 2019 20:02:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 20:50:55 GMT
Not a very good marriage of dynamic driver and ribbon, in the review I read. The bass/mid driver sounded slow lacking the speed and responsiveness of the ribbon. |
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Post by antonio on Jun 2, 2019 9:01:22 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 2, 2019 9:09:07 GMT
Looks stunning and clearly built to a high standard.
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Post by dsjr on Jun 2, 2019 11:33:13 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 2, 2019 12:11:00 GMT
You see, this is a classic case of subjective opinion. My Analogue works turntable was built as a bit of a notts clone. It was said to sound indistinguishable from a Dais. I found it a bit bland. So for me the only thing that sort of sound seems to kill is my enthusiasm for listening, To others t may be the best thing since sliced bread, but that’s just the way hifi is. |
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Post by antonio on Jun 2, 2019 12:25:34 GMT
I only posted the link for the 'blingy turntable Dave because of it's looks, not because of its sound quality. The arm is a different matter.  |
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Post by dsjr on Jun 2, 2019 14:08:06 GMT
The Notts decks were a bit like a Rega RB arm (bear with me please  ). IF the cartridge was a bit of a dullard, as many almost Top End models used to be (Karma, troika, some Koetsu's...), the deck would show that up. Other cartridges that could sound a bit OTT in other decks (many AT MC's of old, Decca's, which the graphite top platter was designed around and some livelier Dynavectors for example), in my book sounded just great on a Notts deck. I tried to have a proper reference rather than just a sound I thought I liked and the rest of the system did seem to respond to it then (ARC SP14, Tube Tech mono's and near-field ES14's initially). Maybe I like a livelier sound from vinyl to some of you chaps? I can see comments on people with lively rooms and speakers where they need to tone down the sources, where bods like me with dead rooms and more ripe-toned speakers (warm and natural - eff off!!!) may need digital and sharper toned vinyl... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 14:38:14 GMT
I love the appearance of the Notts decks. They're plain ugly just like me S. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 2, 2019 14:42:48 GMT
Lively wasn’t a word I’d use to,describe my Analogue Works. I did use a few arms too. Rega RB250 (modded and unmodded), Origin Live Silver, Mayware Formula IV and Helius Orion. Carts were numerous too. AT32, AT33, ATOC9, Rega Carbon, Sonus Blue Gold, Denon DL-103 and DL-103R,
Sonically it was a good deck, but it just didn’t get the blood flowing for me with any combo. Enjoyable in the short term though.
I’ve never ran a bling/pretty deck unless you include Pinks. I don’t like the looks, so they aren’t really pretty to me. Sonically they are not my thing. My Orbe would probably have counted but I ever used it. My latest deck is a complete unknown but it sure is pretty. It’s performance will hang on what motor/PSU I get for it.
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 2, 2019 14:46:52 GMT
I love the appearance of the Notts decks. They're plain ugly just like me S. I really hate them. The proportions are about as unflattering as you can get, they look like they have been built as a Frankenstein deck from other parts. The paint finish is always shoddy too. I could so better with a spray can. Fake marble is hideous on those I’ve seen with it too. Then here are the rubber bands. Oh, and I don’t like motors that can’t spin a platter without a helping hand. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 14:48:48 GMT
I love the appearance of the Notts decks. They're plain ugly just like me S. I really hate them. The proportions are about as unflattering as you can get, they look like they have been built as a Frankenstein deck from other parts. The paint finish is always shoddy too. I could so better with a spray can. Fake marble is hideous on those I’ve seen with it too. Then here are the rubber bands. Oh, and I don’t like motors that can’t spin a platter without a helping hand. But it has a great personality though! S. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 2, 2019 14:56:09 GMT
I really hate them. The proportions are about as unflattering as you can get, they look like they have been built as a Frankenstein deck from other parts. The paint finish is always shoddy too. I could so better with a spray can. Fake marble is hideous on those I’ve seen with it too. Then here are the rubber bands. Oh, and I don’t like motors that can’t spin a platter without a helping hand. But it has a great personality though! S. Haha I really wonder what I’d do if I had one and it sounded better than anything else to me? I’d probably learn to love it, but I’m glad I don’t have to. |
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Post by antonio on Jun 5, 2019 6:51:04 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 5, 2019 7:11:40 GMT
Already gone but I’d live to know what it went for. I may have been tempted because I really rate them. |
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Post by antonio on Jun 5, 2019 8:54:20 GMT
It's up for sale again, maybe you didn't read all pages, a bargain at £320.
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Post by macca on Jun 5, 2019 10:48:21 GMT
but collection only from out in the sticks. I'd have had it otherwise.
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Post by dsjr on Jun 5, 2019 11:36:27 GMT
I love the appearance of the Notts decks. They're plain ugly just like me S. I really hate them. The proportions are about as unflattering as you can get, they look like they have been built as a Frankenstein deck from other parts. The paint finish is always shoddy too. I could so better with a spray can. Fake marble is hideous on those I’ve seen with it too. Then here are the rubber bands. Oh, and I don’t like motors that can’t spin a platter without a helping hand. Cutting lathes aren't pretty either, but modern ones offered a silent background for the lacquer to be cut
How best to minimise wow and flutter? have a seriously heavy platter and just enough torque to keep it rotating, so motor vibration doesn't get through. Linn do exactly the same with the Lingo and descended drives. rega do the opposite, a double belt on the Planar 8 to bring the platter to speed almost as rapidly as a quartz-locked techie - and all the motor Sh#t is there in the background if you're unlucky - UGH!!!
Almost ALL my gear is ugly as hell, so a Notts deck would still fit right in. It's the quality of reproduction though, isn't it? I wouldn't exactly call a Roksan Xerxes 'pretty' either with respect... It's just a brown box with anomimous cover and admittedly, when new, a superbly polished ally platter you can barely tell is rotating. Notts got started before many of the current oil rig types, but I knew Tom (lovely man R.I.P.) and how dedicated he was to getting the best out of those shitty plastic grooves he could.
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Post by antonio on Jun 5, 2019 11:39:03 GMT
Nice drive for you on a Sunday, approx. 100 miles. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 5, 2019 17:06:21 GMT
I actually love the Xerxes looks. That platter is a work of art and the deck has beautiful proportions. I always liked the Voyd and NVA Senior for their longer proportions too. None as pretty as TransRotor though |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 18:46:11 GMT
I bagged a Sony CDP-S1 for £36. Is that a bargain ?
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Post by dsjr on Jun 7, 2019 19:31:40 GMT
About right for a sleeper stack-system player. Only real snag to me is lack of remote without the amp or preamp to send it instructions. Will be interesting to see if you like it in stock form. Hopefully it won't 'sound' crap to you.
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Post by macca on Jun 7, 2019 21:25:28 GMT
Don't you already have a Naim that you pulled half the components out of?
Not that I can talk when it comes to pointlessly accumulating cd players.
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 8, 2019 2:07:51 GMT
I bagged a Sony CDP-S1 for £36. Is that a bargain ? I’ve seen them fetch £100 plus so I’d say it is a bargain. You’d probably pay more for an Arcam Alpha 5, but in stock form they aren’t good. You’d likely get much more from it, but LesW doesn’t think it’s as good as a baby Naim when tweaked so you’re probs better off with the Sony. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 5:46:33 GMT
Don't you already have a Naim that you pulled half the components out of? Not that I can talk when it comes to pointlessly accumulating cd players. Yeah but.......ya know how it is. The Naim is highly modified and sounds bloody good to me. The sony just came on my email as a saved search at a £25 start price and you did not have to buy the rest of the system it usually comes with. Recommended by RD. Lets see if it is as good as some say. |
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Not that we know anyone who does 
). IF the cartridge was a bit of a dullard, as many almost Top End models used to be (Karma, troika, some Koetsu's...), the deck would show that up. Other cartridges that could sound a bit OTT in other decks (many AT MC's of old, Decca's, which the graphite top platter was designed around and some livelier Dynavectors for example), in my book sounded just great on a Notts deck. I tried to have a proper reference rather than just a sound I thought I liked and the rest of the system did seem to respond to it then (ARC SP14, Tube Tech mono's and near-field ES14's initially). 