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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 31, 2023 20:27:06 GMT
Thanks Jamie. Appreciate that. good news,he does boron with a microridge stylus,i'll be going for that i think. Ah ok, so he is buying them in preassembled. Thats a shame. I think we need a group begging letter to Killian! |
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Post by karma67 on Mar 31, 2023 20:46:36 GMT
I’m ok with that as my cantilever is toast, if I were in your shoes I’d start saving and when the time comes send it back to ortofon.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 31, 2023 20:53:25 GMT
I’m ok with that as my cantilever is toast, if I were in your shoes I’d start saving and when the time comes send it back to ortofon. I am probably gonna go with needlestein to be honest. An Ortofon retip is £1800+ VAT on a Ti.  |
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Post by robbiegong on Mar 31, 2023 22:46:00 GMT
I’m ok with that as my cantilever is toast, if I were in your shoes I’d start saving and when the time comes send it back to ortofon. I am probably gonna go with needlestein to be honest. An Ortofon retip is £1800+ VAT on a Ti. Bonkers ! - KILIAN PLEASE, WE LOVE & NEED YOU ! |
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Post by gninnam on Mar 31, 2023 23:26:04 GMT
I used NWA to sort out my DL103M (more a DL110) with an FGS and new cantilever - better than the original cart in what it now digs out of those grooves but doesn't look the best.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 31, 2023 23:27:17 GMT
I used NWA to sort out my DL103M (more a DL110) with an FGS and new cantilever - better than the original cart in what it now digs out of those grooves but doesn't look the best. Ah....messy job? Big blob of glue? |
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Post by gninnam on Mar 31, 2023 23:55:10 GMT
I used NWA to sort out my DL103M (more a DL110) with an FGS and new cantilever - better than the original cart in what it now digs out of those grooves but doesn't look the best. Ah....messy job? Big blob of glue? Yep - but it does sound better than before the operation so still happy |
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Post by karma67 on Apr 1, 2023 4:35:13 GMT
I’m ok with that as my cantilever is toast, if I were in your shoes I’d start saving and when the time comes send it back to ortofon. I am probably gonna go with needlestein to be honest. An Ortofon retip is £1800+ VAT on a Ti. cool,well just for more info on this thread ive emailed him too,lets see what he can offer,it would appear though from a brief search he also sticks a new cantilever on as well.
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Post by rexton on Apr 1, 2023 6:18:42 GMT
Approaching £2.2K to re-do the Ti, blimmin'eck.
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Post by karma67 on Apr 1, 2023 6:22:45 GMT
yeah steep isn't it,i thought going the ortofon route with mine was expensive!
champagne taste with beer money! lol
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Post by karma67 on Apr 1, 2023 6:47:05 GMT
Approaching £2.2K to re-do the Ti, blimmin'eck. but you are getting a brand new assembly installed in the old body,i took my kontrapunkt b aoart when i had it,the coils which the cantilever attaches too are housed in a small metal box which inturn is connected by fly wires to the back cartridge body lead tags,the whole assembly is held in the correct postion when you press the sides back together again. quite simple and ingenious . |
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Post by phonomac on Apr 1, 2023 7:35:09 GMT
Despite his eBay listing Needlestein has just quoted me $850 (+import/VAT) to fit an FGS on a boron cantilever to a Kb - on account of '$200 extra because these Ortofons are so difficult to get into'. Given some other responses from him to various queries he won't be on my list of potential cartridge repairers.
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Post by karma67 on Apr 1, 2023 7:43:02 GMT
hmm,he never mentioned any of that to me. the way things are going its looking like doing 'a group send of to killian and 1 of us flys there and collects them all' would be a cheaper option,actually that might be a goer!
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 1, 2023 7:46:53 GMT
Despite his eBay listing Needlestein has just quoted me $850 (+import/VAT) to fit an FGS on a boron cantilever to a Kb - on account of '$200 extra because these Ortofons are so difficult to get into'. Given some other responses from him to various queries he won't be on my list of potential cartridge repairers. Digital it is then 🤣 |
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 1, 2023 7:51:27 GMT
hmm,he never mentioned any of that to me. the way things are going its looking like doing 'a group send of to killian and 1 of us flys there and collects them all' would be a cheaper option,actually that might be a goer! Thats not a terrible idea. The customs thing is actually really simple. When using UPS, you mark the package as "for repair". He doesn't get whacked with fees then. On the way back via UPS, if he marks it as "repaired" or whatever the option says, we only get whacked for fees on the repair. Ive done a few BB3 mods like this for guys in the States and the EU and it's never been an issue. It became an issue when a guy marked his BB3 as a sale and I had to pay £200 odd to get it here. If that happens to Killian, he does what I did.....make the fella pay for the mistake. Simple. |
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Post by karma67 on Apr 1, 2023 7:58:59 GMT
its not is it! how cheap are easy jet flights these days? lol
for some reason killian does not want to play ball with uk customers,like i said earlier if you use fedex they pay the import and taxes.
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 1, 2023 8:44:42 GMT
its not is it! how cheap are easy jet flights these days? lol for some reason killian does not want to play ball with uk customers,like i said earlier if you use fedex they pay the import and taxes. Or.....we need a EU based forum member who would deal with it for us. |
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Post by macca on Apr 1, 2023 9:11:57 GMT
where is this Killian bloke located?
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 1, 2023 9:45:28 GMT
where is this Killian bloke located? Holland |
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Post by stevew on Apr 1, 2023 9:59:03 GMT
where is this Killian bloke located? So he operates as Holistic Audio in north Netherlands ((think it’s near Oostwold) Have pondered the same myself, as he Vienna-fied my Kontrapunkt (via Angus). What to do when I wear it out? Start saving now .. which given my spending habits is unlikely. Ferry from Hull … take in a holiday via Killian? He’s a long way from Amsterdam |
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Post by macca on Apr 1, 2023 10:47:27 GMT
where is this Killian bloke located? Holland you can nip over there - it's only a 40 minute flight. Last time I went I barely had time to finish my free whiskey drink before we were landing. He can't be that far from Amsterdam it's not a big country, suppose it would mean renting a car too. Not that much if costs split multiple ways. |
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Post by karma67 on Apr 1, 2023 13:22:28 GMT
Despite his eBay listing Needlestein has just quoted me $850 (+import/VAT) to fit an FGS on a boron cantilever to a Kb - on account of '$200 extra because these Ortofons are so difficult to get into'. Given some other responses from him to various queries he won't be on my list of potential cartridge repairers. i have just had a price list sent to me via email, Nude Fritz Gyger FGS on boron is $575 or £465. same as the ebay link. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 1, 2023 14:22:21 GMT
Despite his eBay listing Needlestein has just quoted me $850 (+import/VAT) to fit an FGS on a boron cantilever to a Kb - on account of '$200 extra because these Ortofons are so difficult to get into'. Given some other responses from him to various queries he won't be on my list of potential cartridge repairers. i have just had a price list sent to me via email, Nude Fritz Gyger FGS on boron is $575 or £465. same as the ebay link. Ok.....that's odd |
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Post by karma67 on Apr 1, 2023 14:44:47 GMT
i have just had a price list sent to me via email, Nude Fritz Gyger FGS on boron is $575 or £465. same as the ebay link. Ok.....that's odd when i asked about the different quote, he mentioned as angus said that the KB type bodys are hard to get into and theres a $200 dollar extra charge for that,so that price makes it near to the official ortofon repair price for my bronze all be it a better cantilever will be fitted.
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 1, 2023 14:56:41 GMT
when i asked about the different quote, he mentioned as angus said that the KB type bodys are hard to get into and theres a $200 dollar extra charge for that,so that price makes it near to the official ortofon repair price for my bronze all be it a better cantilever will be fitted.
£465 for a new assembly is not bad at all. As long as that's what you get. |
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Post by karma67 on Apr 1, 2023 15:04:58 GMT
if you use needlestein you are looking at $775 dollors roughly,thats a new boron cantilever and a FGS diamond. as angus said factor in customs charges etc and its a far cry from $475 originally quoted.
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 1, 2023 16:07:43 GMT
if you use needlestein you are looking at $775 dollors roughly,thats a new boron cantilever and a FGS diamond. as angus said factor in customs charges etc and its a far cry from $475 originally quoted.
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Post by electronumpty on Apr 1, 2023 16:16:50 GMT
I still have a old KB body with snapped stylus. Considered over the years sending back to Ortofon and getting the body etc replaced. Now 1000 Euros for this. Still might do it as you are getting far more than a replacement stylus and cantilever but I never have the spare money!
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Post by karma67 on Apr 3, 2023 14:12:57 GMT
another possible option,
i have just heard back from van den Hul who has said they can replace the cantilever and diamond. i have to contact their uk dealer and see whats what.
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Post by robbiegong on Apr 3, 2023 14:53:00 GMT
I really get why stylus life on the good cartridges we use is a real consideration. I never used to think about it, but do so more now, since the FGS on the CB. I enjoy it so much that I dont like thinking about when 'that time' comes. Luckily I've probs 300-400 hrs, if that on mine.
I now utilise the cdp side loads more and thankfully loving that too via the PD-91.
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