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Post by macca on Dec 5, 2021 17:14:36 GMT
I ended up with an Achromat but I never tried those two Ollie lists.
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Post by gninnam on Dec 5, 2021 17:17:01 GMT
Something I haven't got round to doing yet. With the current mat I have had no issues with the SQ but until I try another mat then I won't no  Recommendations?? Tenuto AT600 Cheers - does Guy still sell the Tenuto or is it second hand only? |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 5, 2021 17:38:50 GMT
Cheers - does Guy still sell the Tenuto or is it second hand only? I couldn't tell you. My only advise is don't skimp out. We may be able to do comparisons here at some time soon as the MK8 arm is now undergoing a possible full redesign, so when that's done we could get Angus to bring platter mats to play with too. |
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Post by gninnam on Dec 5, 2021 17:43:30 GMT
Cheers - does Guy still sell the Tenuto or is it second hand only? I couldn't tell you. My only advise is don't skimp out. We may be able to do comparisons here at some time soon as the MK8 arm is now undergoing a possible full redesign, so when that's done we could get Angus to bring platter mats to play with too. That sounds like a plan to me then  |
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Post by rexton on Dec 5, 2021 17:57:31 GMT
+1 Tenuto from me as well. I did EXTENSIVE platter mat testing on my 1210 and must have tried 10-15 different types before I ended up with the Tenuto, I now have one on all my main three decks (a 1210, Garrard 301 and a 401).
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 5, 2021 18:17:07 GMT
+1 Tenuto from me as well. I did EXTENSIVE platter mat testing on my 1210 and must have tried 10-15 different types before I ended up with the Tenuto, I now have one on all my main three decks (a 1210, Garrard 301 and a 401). Did you try an AT600? I only ask as I want to try one. |
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Post by karma67 on Dec 5, 2021 18:22:01 GMT
Cheers - does Guy still sell the Tenuto or is it second hand only? I couldn't tell you. My only advise is don't skimp out. We may be able to do comparisons here at some time soon as the MK8 arm is now undergoing a possible full redesign, so when that's done we could get Angus to bring platter mats to play with too. interesting,i stopped using my tenuto a few months back in favor of a foam mat i found on a german forum,the group buy had ended but a guy contacted me and said i could buy his 2, a 3mm and a 5mm. since using the 5mm mat the tenuto sounds thin and lean,the foam mat to my ears is better with no loss of detail over the tenuto. the price for the tenuto was £350 if i remember correctly,the price for the 2 foam mats was 20 euros......go figure lol |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 5, 2021 18:24:31 GMT
I couldn't tell you. My only advise is don't skimp out. We may be able to do comparisons here at some time soon as the MK8 arm is now undergoing a possible full redesign, so when that's done we could get Angus to bring platter mats to play with too. interesting,i stopped using my tenuto a few months back in favor of a foam mat i found on a german forum,the group buy had ended but a guy contacted me and said i could buy his 2, a 3mm and a 5mm. since using the 5mm mat the tenuto sounds thin and lean,the foam mat to my ears is better with no loss of detail over the tenuto. the price for the tenuto was £350 if i remember correctly,the price for the 2 foam mats was 20 euros......go figure lol You could flog it to Gninnam then. Everyone's a winner! ☺️ Or he could try one of these? herbiesaudiolab.com/products/way-excellent-ii-turntable-mat?variant=12672063963191 |
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Post by karma67 on Dec 5, 2021 18:33:16 GMT
interesting,i stopped using my tenuto a few months back in favor of a foam mat i found on a german forum,the group buy had ended but a guy contacted me and said i could buy his 2, a 3mm and a 5mm. since using the 5mm mat the tenuto sounds thin and lean,the foam mat to my ears is better with no loss of detail over the tenuto. the price for the tenuto was £350 if i remember correctly,the price for the 2 foam mats was 20 euros......go figure lol You could flog it to Gninnam then. Everyone's a winner! ☺️ Or he could try one of these? herbiesaudiolab.com/products/way-excellent-ii-turntable-mat?variant=12672063963191where abouts in the country is he? |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 5, 2021 18:33:35 GMT
where abouts in the country is he? Leeds iirc |
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Post by karma67 on Dec 5, 2021 18:36:31 GMT
ah thats a shame he could of heard my tenuto before he decided to buy one.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 5, 2021 18:45:34 GMT
ah thats a shame he could of heard my tenuto before he decided to buy one. Yup, I don't have my box for it or I'd have posted it. I could have made do with a 12" piece of the wife's yoga mat 🤣 |
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Post by rexton on Dec 5, 2021 19:28:16 GMT
Did you try an AT600? I only ask as I want to try one. Never tried the AT600 but I've been through God knows how many different Cork, Neoprene, Astrosorb, Glass, Poron, Achromat, Garrard original mat, several original Thorens, Herbies mat etc etc etc, plus probably a few I've forgotten. One of the best things I bought was a platter ring. I use this alongside a heavy copper weight. I use the combo to try and emulate the effect of a platter vacuum like some of the high end TT's. I'm trying to get the record as flat as possible and couple with the Tenuto, results have been favourable so far. It is a bit of a faff changing the whole thing every 22 minutes!  |
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Post by gninnam on Dec 5, 2021 21:03:31 GMT
Sorry - been away from the computer and missed the chat.
Yes, near Leeds and would be interested to try a different mat to see if my ears can tell the difference or not then I can put my hand in my almost empty pocket (someone mention Christmas.....)
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Post by rexton on Dec 5, 2021 21:17:40 GMT
I've flogged all my old TT mat's otherwise you could have tried a few.
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Post by gninnam on Dec 5, 2021 21:24:58 GMT
I've flogged all my old TT mat's otherwise you could have tried a few. C'est La vie  |
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Post by antonio on Dec 6, 2021 6:10:10 GMT
Sorry - been away from the computer and missed the chat. Yes, near Leeds and would be interested to try a different mat to see if my ears can tell the difference or not then I can put my hand in my almost empty pocket (someone mention Christmas.....) Hang on for another 3 or 4 months, don't forget that possible meet up which someone was going to organize. |
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Post by gninnam on Dec 21, 2021 12:35:32 GMT
I was in the garage looking for something and stumbled across my old DCC player. Plumbed it in and sounding very nice indeed  |
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Post by gninnam on Dec 21, 2021 15:13:21 GMT
Hah Discovered why its in the garage  After playing both sides it has now decided to inject quiet bits in the playback. I don't have a DAC to bypass the internals so not sure if its on the analogue or digital side. Anyone have a spare DAC they can lend to see where in the chain the problem lies (digital out is toslink only)?? |
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Post by macca on Dec 21, 2021 15:55:33 GMT
Problem could be the tape not the player, take a look at this
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Post by gninnam on Dec 21, 2021 18:30:10 GMT
Not the tape as it does it with analogue tapes (it is like a millisecond or so of nothing-ness if that makes sense)
I think it could be capacitor or resistor in the audio chain - will see if any more interweb info on this.
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Post by gninnam on Dec 21, 2021 18:50:17 GMT
Just had a quick google and they reckon its the pinch wheels need replacing and a good clean of the head so will open it up and check it out!
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Post by gninnam on Dec 21, 2021 19:55:29 GMT
Owe you an apology as it was a combination of both. Cleaned the head and pinch wheels and on analogue tapes no issues. Still had the issue with the DCC tape - checked it over and the tape is damaged |
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Post by gninnam on Dec 22, 2021 8:14:13 GMT
Speaking to DCC experts they say it will be the pinch wheels which are the problem and will need to be replaced. Easy to get out so I will check these in the next few days to see if they are damaged (they apparently get blisters) and organise replacements. If they are damaged they will cause your tapes to become foobar'd |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 22, 2021 8:15:12 GMT
Speaking to DCC experts they say it will be the pinch wheels which are the problem and will need to be replaced. Easy to get out so I will check these in the next few days to see if they are damaged (they apparently get blisters) and organise replacements. If they are damaged they will cause your tapes to become foobar'd Sounds like your tape was ruined by the player then? |
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Post by gninnam on Dec 22, 2021 18:16:08 GMT
Speaking to DCC experts they say it will be the pinch wheels which are the problem and will need to be replaced. Easy to get out so I will check these in the next few days to see if they are damaged (they apparently get blisters) and organise replacements. If they are damaged they will cause your tapes to become foobar'd Sounds like your tabe was ruined by the player then? It would appear that way |
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Post by gninnam on May 28, 2022 23:09:41 GMT
Not posted for a while (regarding music/kit etc) due to work/life etc. Getting back into music/kit again as my van has now gone Have a really nice copper mat for the Technics TT (will show once I can be arsed to polish it) but just listening to some tunes as I type this - soo good. As I have never tried/owned a tangential or air based tonearm, I bought one the other month which I will be using on the JVC TT-71 rig. Won't work with the current arm base so will need to build an arm pod for it then will see how it goes. Pictures to follow soon |
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Post by rexton on May 29, 2022 18:50:38 GMT
I think Sien over on LH was doing a copper mat.
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Post by gninnam on May 29, 2022 18:59:20 GMT
I think Sien over on LH was doing a copper mat. Yep - that's the one I got |
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Post by rexton on May 29, 2022 19:57:11 GMT
Good choice, his products are very good at great prices.
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