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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 29, 2021 8:58:23 GMT
+1, i have 2 sony plinths and the panzerholz one beats them both. theres just something about panzer that is so right for plinths and armboards. where are you getting the panzer oli for £100? £100 for a plinth sized piece, not a full sheet! |
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Post by karma67 on Aug 29, 2021 9:04:17 GMT
+1, i have 2 sony plinths and the panzerholz one beats them both. theres just something about panzer that is so right for plinths and armboards. where are you getting the panzer oli for £100? £100 for a plinth sized piece, not a full sheet! i know that! i mean from where lol |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 29, 2021 9:09:23 GMT
£100 for a plinth sized piece, not a full sheet! i know that! i mean from where lol Oh, I can't tell you that or I'll be in trouble lol |
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Post by karma67 on Aug 29, 2021 9:55:13 GMT
i know that! i mean from where lol Oh, I can't tell you that or I'll be in trouble lol id better reserve a plinth to go with my future purchase then. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 29, 2021 10:04:01 GMT
Oh, I can't tell you that or I'll be in trouble lol id better reserve a plinth to go with my future purchase then. Future purchase? Oh lord.....what have you done now 🤣🤣 Not another TTS8000? Saying that, looking at the price of them now, they'll be worth double in 18 months |
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Post by gninnam on Aug 29, 2021 16:24:29 GMT
Had another play with getting the 12 inch arm sorted. Reduced the tails and pushed them through a hole in the top of the arm board where I had mounted the connectors. Hum reduced further and the arm performs better as moved the weight at the rear so it was more to the right as noticed the cartridge wasn't very level. Still hum so tried my battery powered MM phono amp and no difference so put it back to the OTP. A pic of the MM phono amp:  I think I need to reduce the tails further as something in my room is generating something that the tails are picking up ?? A few pics of the new layout and play a record.    |
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Post by antonio on Aug 29, 2021 23:59:41 GMT
Problem with the the arms you mention is they would struggle to fit on the current Obsidian SP-10 plinth and allow the lid to work. I don't want to change the current plinth as a. I like the looks and b. I have heard SP-10's in other plinths and have not noticed a big difference. Let's see what father Christmas brings this year (just around the corner!!) I didn't want to suggest spending more money, as it's a bit wanker-ish, But..... Sticking that SP10 in a Panzerholz plinth would be my first port of call. The obsidian plinth is a thing of beauty, no doubt, but to get the best from the motor id get shot of the plinth. We did that experiment with the SP10, and the Sony TTS8000. The difference in performance was not subtle. If we can find a way, I'd be happy to do an SP10 comparison so you can hear for yourself before shelling out, but for £100 and a bit of routering....I'd be on it. It would take a pretty big difference in sound quality for me to change the plinth from the obsidian to panzerholz if that tt were mine. All you've got to do now gninnam, get the arm board done in piano black. |
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Post by firebottle on Aug 30, 2021 8:21:45 GMT
I prefer 12" (no innuendo intended). I've two SME's a V5-12 and a 3012 and I just love them. Would take a lot for me to part with them. [br If you are looking for a new arm that is turning performance on its head then look at the SUPATRAC Blackbird. It's a sideways unipivot arm, even DIY versions are excelling. |
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Post by karma67 on Aug 30, 2021 8:31:04 GMT
although iam not aware of any diy versions being supplied,where did you see this alan? |
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Post by pete on Aug 30, 2021 8:49:27 GMT
I prefer 12" (no innuendo intended). I've two SME's a V5-12 and a 3012 and I just love them. Would take a lot for me to part with them. [br If you are looking for a new arm that is turning performance on its head then look at the SUPATRAC Blackbird. It's a sideways unipivot arm, even DIY versions are excelling. Looks very different, here is a link to video review and explanation. |
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Post by firebottle on Aug 30, 2021 10:19:10 GMT
although iam not aware of any diy versions being supplied,where did you see this alan? There a quite a few DIY versions on Lenco Heaven, even one that I have put together from Lenco arm parts. Mine needs more work but I can feel the potential. |
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Post by gninnam on Aug 30, 2021 11:00:00 GMT
Followed that thread on the Lenco site. The guy who I bought this arm from has made one of those Supatrac arms and is mightily impressed with it - hence why the one I bought was up for sale.
Wanted to dip my toe in the water in the unipivot world - so far, apart from the hum which I think may be more system related, I like what it does on the SP-10.
Who knows where my journey will go to next?
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Post by gninnam on Aug 30, 2021 11:11:58 GMT
I didn't want to suggest spending more money, as it's a bit wanker-ish, But..... Sticking that SP10 in a Panzerholz plinth would be my first port of call. The obsidian plinth is a thing of beauty, no doubt, but to get the best from the motor id get shot of the plinth. We did that experiment with the SP10, and the Sony TTS8000. The difference in performance was not subtle. If we can find a way, I'd be happy to do an SP10 comparison so you can hear for yourself before shelling out, but for £100 and a bit of routering....I'd be on it. It would take a pretty big difference in sound quality for me to change the plinth from the obsidian to panzerholz if that tt were mine. All you've got to do now gninnam, get the arm board done in piano black. Correct - I have no plans to replinth this one. As well as sounding good it looks good too - take the point that Oli makes but the plinth is staying  |
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Post by gninnam on Aug 30, 2021 12:46:22 GMT
Tails shortened and re-soldered - hum still there (as I expected) but at reasonable audio levels not massively noticable......
Will have a think and see what could be the culprit.
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Post by gninnam on Sept 4, 2021 15:08:06 GMT
Put the Siemens and Telefunken valves into the BB3 today and decided to have a change and put the Delrin black platter back on the Orbe. Sounding sweet    |
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 4, 2021 15:46:09 GMT
Put the Siemens and Telefunken valves into the BB3 today and decided to have a change and put the Delrin black platter back on the Orbe. Sounding sweet Spoilt for choice you are! |
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Post by gninnam on Sept 4, 2021 15:57:47 GMT
Put the Siemens and Telefunken valves into the BB3 today and decided to have a change and put the Delrin black platter back on the Orbe. Sounding sweet Spoilt for choice you are! Aye, but worked hard to get here (and didn't Sh#t on anyone along the way which is always important ) |
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 4, 2021 16:32:46 GMT
Spoilt for choice you are! Aye, but worked hard to get here (and didn't Sh#t on anyone along the way which is always important ) That's the right way. Well done! |
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Post by gninnam on Sept 6, 2021 19:50:38 GMT
A bit of a change tonight. Replaced the Puresound A30 valve amp with my Burson Bang - looks so tiny but pulls no punches with SQ and heft!  |
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Post by gninnam on Sept 18, 2021 15:58:08 GMT
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Post by antonio on Sept 19, 2021 5:13:15 GMT
and if you believed everything you read on forums, the above combination would not work, some are not as clever as they think or simply just go on specs instead of actually listening to the thing. Pleased you are enjoying it.
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Post by gninnam on Sept 19, 2021 13:39:03 GMT
and if you believed everything you read on forums, the above combination would not work, some are not as clever as they think or simply just go on specs instead of actually listening to the thing. Pleased you are enjoying it. Yep - The arm and cartridge worked really well on the JVC so I was expecting the same on the SP-10 - and it works very well The amount of detail that it is being pulled out of the grooves is phenomenal so I think I might go for the rewire on the RB300 next to see what it can do |
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Post by gninnam on Sept 25, 2021 12:16:29 GMT
Due to damaging the cantilever on the DL103M I have roped in one of my other spare P77 - sounding pretty good (so far) on the RB300, SP-10 and through the BB3  |
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Post by antonio on Sept 25, 2021 13:10:53 GMT
Not the luckiest of forums at the moment, with you and Lurch, can you get cantilever replaced cost effectively or is it the bin?
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Post by gninnam on Sept 25, 2021 13:12:14 GMT
Not the luckiest of forums at the moment, with you and Lurch, can you get cantilever replaced cost effective or is it the bin? Not sure - just sent North West Analogue an email to see what his though is - not holding my breadth! |
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Post by gninnam on Oct 2, 2021 15:46:42 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 2, 2021 17:05:06 GMT
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Post by rexton on Oct 2, 2021 17:35:46 GMT
Blimey your nearly as bad as me. I've hot 4 setup at the moment.
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Post by gninnam on Oct 2, 2021 17:44:43 GMT
Blimey your nearly as bad as me. I've hot 4 setup at the moment. I have 3 more in the garage and God knows how many amps and speakers Plan to have a clear out soon as want to raise funds for a power amp plus I need to order some parts to build a passive pre and still need to re-wire the 12 inch wooden arm which I will do once the weather closes in properly. |
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Post by antonio on Oct 2, 2021 23:13:42 GMT
Looks great Gninnam, and no one wanted to buy the best looking turntable!
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