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Post by macca on Aug 22, 2021 12:32:51 GMT
The one on the right? It looks very high end 1970s but you never can tell these days. Sorry got no idea what it is. Sony?
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Post by electronumpty on Aug 22, 2021 12:33:23 GMT
wot, a glass of whisky?
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Post by mikeyb on Aug 22, 2021 13:13:36 GMT
SP10 Mk2 innit 😉
Edit : with, I suspect, an acoustand plinth
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Post by macca on Aug 22, 2021 13:24:39 GMT
I was peering at that for ages never would have got it. Suppose was not that far off with Sony.
I really like that plinth and lid.
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 22, 2021 14:19:49 GMT
Latest acquisition   RESPECT! Well done Andy 👏👏👏 Welcome to the SP10 owners club. |
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Post by gninnam on Aug 22, 2021 14:45:27 GMT
So close - its a Rum Old Fashioned (yummy)  |
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Post by gninnam on Aug 22, 2021 14:49:21 GMT
Well done Andy 👏👏👏 Welcome to the SP10 owners club. Thanks Oli - yep been thinking about getting one for some time and after using the JVC I decided to go for it. Just need to tweak the arm board so I can setup the SME V on it properly but sounding very good so far. I have another 12 inch arm coming next week so this will be going on and once the wooden arm has been rewired will give this ago too. |
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Post by gninnam on Aug 22, 2021 14:51:45 GMT
A few more pics   |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 22, 2021 14:59:50 GMT
A few more pics Beautiful isn't it. Wow. How's it sounding? |
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Post by gninnam on Aug 22, 2021 15:25:07 GMT
Sounding good already, even thought the SME V isn't optimally setup (will look at altering the arm board this week sometime) Wish I had dipped my toe in the DD water earlier  The Orbe still runs it close though (I know the tweaks made to it help) so excited to see how the 12 inch arms work with it!! |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 22, 2021 15:54:48 GMT
Sounding good already, even thought the SME V isn't optimally setup (will look at altering the arm board this week sometime) Wish I had dipped my toe in the DD water earlier The Orbe still runs it close though (I know the tweaks made to it help) so excited to see how the 12 inch arms work with it!! What does an orbe cost, with mods etc? |
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Post by gninnam on Aug 22, 2021 17:07:52 GMT
What does an orbe cost, with mods etc? Second hand (Like mine), would be around £2.5K I would think - but like most things, only worth what someone is willing to pay |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 22, 2021 17:46:45 GMT
What does an orbe cost, with mods etc? Second hand (Like mine), would be around £2.5K I would think - but like most things, only worth what someone is willing to pay Really? I had no idea they were so chingy. Probably because I haven't looked sideways at another turntable since I got the SP10.... It must be love lol |
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Post by antonio on Aug 23, 2021 2:56:15 GMT
I know you've had a sneaky look at both the Sony and the Denon DP80 though Bigman I saw the SP10 for sale, it looks gorgeous with the SME fitted now, and that lid is a bit special too, hope you enjoy your new purchase |
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Post by gninnam on Aug 23, 2021 5:10:38 GMT
I know you've had a sneaky look at both the Sony and the Denon DP80 though Bigman I saw the SP10 for sale, it looks gorgeous with the SME fitted now, and that lid is a bit special too, hope you enjoy your new purchase Cheers. It does look special and I can't believe how 'new' it looks - looks like it was made last week, even the boxes and documentation look like they have never been used |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 23, 2021 7:50:19 GMT
I know you've had a sneaky look at both the Sony and the Denon DP80 though Bigman I saw the SP10 for sale, it looks gorgeous with the SME fitted now, and that lid is a bit special too, hope you enjoy your new purchase I had a Sony TTS8000 here, Dave. Didn't last long. The Denon..... interesting as I've never heard one, but looking at it I don't think it would do anything the SP10 can't do. I'm a huge SP10 fan, always have been, so it's gonna take something truly remarkable to get into my system. |
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Post by macca on Aug 23, 2021 8:29:15 GMT
Mk3 SP10 was the best motor unit in the world when it came out (about 1980?) and I don't think it has been bettered since.
Even the latest SP10R only matches its specs for wow, flutter and rumble. Effectively it's impossible to improve on it.
if I was going to get back in the vinyl game I wouldn't even think about other options. Although the SL1200 as a motor unit is more than good enough.
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 23, 2021 12:10:51 GMT
Mk3 SP10 was the best motor unit in the world when it came out (about 1980?) and I don't think it has been bettered since. Even the latest SP10R only matches its specs for wow, flutter and rumble. Effectively it's impossible to improve on it. if I was going to get back in the vinyl game I wouldn't even think about other options. Although the SL1200 as a motor unit is more than good enough. Adding the Tenuto Platter Matt improved the MK2 figures, IIRC. I can't remember where I read that, but it was some sort of Technics fan page. |
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Post by gninnam on Aug 28, 2021 15:20:43 GMT
12 inch Titanium Unipivot tonearm mounted on an arm board Just soldered to the sockets and put behind at the moment - plan is to mount them to the arm board underneath. Using the P77 cartridge with the Firebottle OTP MkII to make sure it works - it does, but a slight hum. Hoping when the leads are shortened when the sockets are underneath that the hum will calm down. A few pics:    |
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Post by gninnam on Aug 28, 2021 15:37:18 GMT
I have put the SME-V back on the Orbe and just playing some tunes - wow, it still sounds good - did I do the right thing buying the SP-10?
Using the same arm, cart, phono, pre, power amp and speakers there is not a lot in it too be honest!!
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 28, 2021 15:39:14 GMT
I have put the SME-V back on the Orbe and just playing some tunes - wow, it still sounds good - did I do the right thing buying the SP-10? Using the same arm, cart, phono, pre, power amp and speakers there is not a lot in it too be honest!! What's in the system? |
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Post by rexton on Aug 28, 2021 16:10:09 GMT
All looks good. Interesting to hear your thoughts on the new tonearm. I've been looking around for a new 12" for a while, some interesting developments at the moment.
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Post by gninnam on Aug 28, 2021 17:14:34 GMT
I have put the SME-V back on the Orbe and just playing some tunes - wow, it still sounds good - did I do the right thing buying the SP-10? Using the same arm, cart, phono, pre, power amp and speakers there is not a lot in it too be honest!! What's in the system? Cartridge is a Goldring Elite (for the money a cracking cart). The phono preamp is the BB3. Preamp is a Myryad Z40 (cracking little pre and a brilliant headphone amp). The power amp duties are currently covered by a Pure Sound A30 which then feeds my Reiver Jenna floor standing speakers. When I used the SP-10 with the SME-V arm I was blown away, but just put the SME arm back on the Orbe and not too sure the the difference is as great as I thought. Love the stability of the SP-10 and what this does but the Orbe seems to work in a different way - more soul? Anyway - may keep both turntables (was going to sell the Orbe) but I won't be getting another SME-V |
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Post by electronumpty on Aug 28, 2021 17:19:36 GMT
That SP 10 in black looks very, very smart 😎
Nice one.
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Post by gninnam on Aug 28, 2021 17:19:38 GMT
All looks good. Interesting to hear your thoughts on the new tonearm. I've been looking around for a new 12" for a while, some interesting developments at the moment. Jury is still out on the 12 inch arms. Technically they should work a lot better than the 9/10 inch arms and the wooden arm was a peach apart from the hum so I am hoping to rewire that one and fingers crossed it will be good. The titanium arm I just got also generates some hum but with it being a Unipivot, the cables coming out of it need to be flexible, so I just used the run he gave me to some sockets. I will put the sockets under the arm board and shorten the wire so hopefully this will get rd of the hum. I was just using a P77 MM cartridge but it did sound promising. Once I sort out the cabling etc I will put my DL103M in and see what happens. |
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Post by karma67 on Aug 28, 2021 17:21:38 GMT
Yes you get a better perspective on the differences when you swap back to what you used before.
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Post by rexton on Aug 28, 2021 18:21:35 GMT
I prefer 12" (no innuendo intended). I've two SME's a V5-12 and a 3012 and I just love them. Would take a lot for me to part with them.
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Post by gninnam on Aug 28, 2021 18:33:09 GMT
Problem with the the arms you mention is they would struggle to fit on the current Obsidian SP-10 plinth and allow the lid to work.
I don't want to change the current plinth as a. I like the looks and b. I have heard SP-10's in other plinths and have not noticed a big difference.
Let's see what father Christmas brings this year (just around the corner!!)
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 29, 2021 7:41:59 GMT
Problem with the the arms you mention is they would struggle to fit on the current Obsidian SP-10 plinth and allow the lid to work. I don't want to change the current plinth as a. I like the looks and b. I have heard SP-10's in other plinths and have not noticed a big difference. Let's see what father Christmas brings this year (just around the corner!!) I didn't want to suggest spending more money, as it's a bit wanker-ish, But..... Sticking that SP10 in a Panzerholz plinth would be my first port of call. The obsidian plinth is a thing of beauty, no doubt, but to get the best from the motor id get shot of the plinth. We did that experiment with the SP10, and the Sony TTS8000. The difference in performance was not subtle. If we can find a way, I'd be happy to do an SP10 comparison so you can hear for yourself before shelling out, but for £100 and a bit of routering....I'd be on it. |
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Post by karma67 on Aug 29, 2021 8:09:38 GMT
+1, i have 2 sony plinths and the panzerholz one beats them both. theres just something about panzer that is so right for plinths and armboards.
where are you getting the panzer oli for £100?
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