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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 30, 2020 23:51:16 GMT
Just got the call from work. We're now starting medical equipment and power manufacturing so it's a vital. Which is fine. But we have no decent ppe and it's in Lancashire so obviously everyone except me spits a lot , are sadly delinquent in the personal cleanliness desciplines and have no childhood handkerchief training. 🙁 Sounds like you fit right in there... Ooooh ...... Burn! Lol, I think engine would fit in anywhere....he certainly has the shoes for every occasion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 0:18:24 GMT
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Post by antonio on Mar 31, 2020 5:09:04 GMT
Just watching the news, a man has driven out to what looked like a semi rural location to walk his dog, two policemen ask him, to follow Gov. guidelines and warn him about making unnecessary journeys. Surely he is isolating himself in his car, and it must be safer to walk his dog were there is nobody about. The police must start to use some common sense.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 6:05:00 GMT
Bit of a grey area that. They don't want peeps flocking to beauty spots but they do want them to keep away from everyone else. To be honest , I know 3 policemen and I'm being fair if I said they're a bit knobheadish when it comes to impressing their position of authority on people. Even at a party they'll stick their chests out and belittle people. It's probably just a by product of their training but it's not pleasant and they don't usually get asked back. And like I said before , I do like a good generalisation. 😁👍
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 10:24:38 GMT
Just watching the news, a man has driven out to what looked like a semi rural location to walk his dog, two policemen ask him, to follow Gov. guidelines and warn him about making unnecessary journeys. Surely he is isolating himself in his car, and it must be safer to walk his dog were there is nobody about. The police must start to use some common sense. I quite agree Antonio, but qualified with "providing people don't need to be driving too far or stop anywhere except their final destination". The emphasis must surely be on social distancing as the virus spreads by contact or via droplets in breath or coughs or where infected persons touch an object that retains the virus for a given length of time. If people go somewhere and there's lots of other people there, don't get out of the car and go somewhere else where you don't need to be too close to anyone or wait until there are fewer people around. It's not hard. (unless you live in towns or cities and then it is....unfortunately, so walking spread across more unsociable hours may be the only way of reducing risks if leaving the home for exercise). For those with large gardens then there is no real need I'd have thought but that's not many of the population at a guess. There are too many straw-man arguments such as "what if you have an accident?". Well, given that anyone's chances of an RTA have been exponentially lowered due to the lack of traffic concentrated into peak times, and taking extra care, the chances must surely be so slim as to be negligible. Taking extra care when out not to break an ankle or similarly avoid injury are a matter of personal care and not being careless. I for one would welcome an opportunity to drive 4 miles to our local common land to get away from the maddening crowns congregating all hours of the day on local public footpaths over the Cotswold Way...you simply cannot avoid close contact with people, styles they have climbed over and gates they have opened. The risk I would argue is far greater in using such paths, when at least on a large common or any other open ground you can more easily avoid getting close to anyone. The issue is being too heavily politicised by some police forces I think, such as Derbyshire who have employed drones to spy on people. There's a definite feel of "big brother" out there, including people too afraid to say anything on public forums. It would help enormously if the police would 1) apply some common sense in their approach and 2) apply it collectively and the same way across the UK and 3) that we all ought to be able to discuss these things openly as discussion is healthy and as far as I know is not yet outlawed! The day that it is, will be the day that things have been taken way way too far.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 12:24:42 GMT
Police do not do politics. They give effect to the law.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 12:28:36 GMT
Police do not do politics. They give effect to the law. LoL!!!!!! OK. If you believe that all police chiefs are totally impartial and no politicking happens within forces, you believe that. I have great respect for our police services and those who put it on the line but clearly, politics operates at the highest level's and is filtered through to policing on the ground. Not looking to debate a point of fact, as it's a point of fact.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 12:44:03 GMT
How do the police do politics. I think you're mistaking prioritising for politics. It serves no purpose to say they do politics. It is naive and wrong.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 31, 2020 13:43:25 GMT
How do the police do politics. I think you're mistaking prioritising for politics. It serves no purpose to say they do politics. It is naive and wrong. I think if you're here to cause Sh#t, you wont be for long....... In fact i was uneasy with your prescence here so have removed you anyway. 3 Posts, 3 bits of Sh#t. Toodles
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Post by sq225917 on Mar 31, 2020 14:29:28 GMT
Given that police comissioners have their own organisation with pr staff on the payroll how could one doubt politics plays a role in what forces do. The police enforce law, law is set by politicians, politicians have political bias, end of story.
Anyone who was around during the miners strike knows all too well what level of subterfuge they get up to.
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Post by nonuffin on Mar 31, 2020 14:49:07 GMT
As a change of subject ...........
2 weeks ago we 'upgraded' to Sky Q. This morning the wife wants to watch the news, but the Sky box is telling us there is "No satellite signal". Not only that, she cannot watch any of the programmes she has recorded, nor can she access Netflix. Bugger.
After being kept on hold for an hour and forty five minutes, we are informed that no Sky engineers are making field calls and the best they can do is send us a Now TV dongle. My missus nearly exploded with rage, so she handed the phone to me. I said to this daft bint that I would rather have a replacement Q box sent instead of a Now TV dongle as I suspect that the LNB power feed, plus the lack of hard drive access, plus the loud popping when turned on or off suggests the power supply in the Q box is faulty on the 12 bolt supply, but she was having none of it. She said a manager would call us back but that might not be for 24 hours at least.
I am dreading being cooped up with the missus for the 12 weeks she is confined under lockdown as it is, but she will be hell to live with if she doesn't have her Sky.
The best bit though is Sky will "look at" the billing while we have to put up with Now TV. I might "look at" cancelling the direct debit if that is the case.
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Post by antonio on Mar 31, 2020 15:47:50 GMT
^^^^^^^ I would cancel your direct debit to be on the safe side. We have Sky Q and whenever we have dealings with Sky, the staff cannot understand your problem or fob you off with any excuse. Wish there was another provider, Virgin seem worse than Sky.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 16:29:50 GMT
Don’t Sky have a service where you can watch TV on the Internet?
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Post by macca on Mar 31, 2020 16:53:48 GMT
^^^^^^^ I would cancel your direct debit to be on the safe side. We have Sky Q and whenever we have dealings with Sky, the staff cannot understand your problem or fob you off with any excuse. Wish there was another provider, Virgin seem worse than Sky. I've been with them since they started, they were crap to begin with but in recent years I can't fault them on the odd occasion I've had an issue. I doubt their engineers are coming out at the moment either but I suppose that's understandable.
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Post by antonio on Mar 31, 2020 18:11:06 GMT
^^^^^^ I'm sure they do have happy customers Macca, but if I tell you they could not put the dish up in the right place for me at my last place. It was Autumn/Winter and obviously no leaves on the trees. They put up the dish on the wall ok, but when Summer came and the leaves were back on the tree, it blocked the dish from receiving a true signal so I was always having drop-outs especially when there was a breeze. I did tell the engineers before hand and asked them to place it at the end of the building but of course they knew best. They did save themselves 10' of cable though.
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Post by macca on Mar 31, 2020 19:31:31 GMT
^^^^^^ I'm sure they do have happy customers Macca, but if I tell you they could not put the dish up in the right place for me at my last place. It was Autumn/Winter and obviously no leaves on the trees. They put up the dish on the wall ok, but when Summer came and the leaves were back on the tree, it blocked the dish from receiving a true signal so I was always having drop-outs especially when there was a breeze. I did tell the engineers before hand and asked them to place it at the end of the building but of course they knew best. They did save themselves 10' of cable though. LOL I'm on cable not dish so not had that issue. Got it installed when I moved into this place. I had no furniture at the time, I wasn't sure where I was going to put the telly and it's a big room so when the bloke asks how much cable do you want I asked for thirty foot. From his reaction you'd think it was coming out of his own pocket. He nearly had a heart attack. According to him it is usually the woman of the house who 'supervises' the install and of course they want as little cable as possible spoiling their carefully constructed domestic aesthetic. Anyway I got the thirty foot in the end. Never used it.
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Post by alit on Mar 31, 2020 19:37:37 GMT
Don’t Sky have a service where you can watch TV on the Internet? Yes, Sky Go.
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Post by nonuffin on Mar 31, 2020 21:22:29 GMT
Don’t Sky have a service where you can watch TV on the Internet? Yes, Sky Go. More like Sky No Feckin Go.
I have installed it three times now and the first version I had sound but no picture, the next version had picture with distorted out of synch sound and this version has neither, just a plain black square box.
Been trawling for an answer to this problem on the net and I have gone through at least a dozen 'solutions', none of which have made any difference at all.
I kept the old HD box but the Sky Q box has different connectors on the dish cables, so I cannot even go back to that.
The missus facetimed her son tonight and his Sky Q has been out of action with the no satellite signal message for 3 days now, but he doesn't relish a two hour wait on the phone with no resolution either.
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Post by alit on Apr 1, 2020 3:05:31 GMT
What are you installing it on?
I use it in a MacBook Pro, IPhone and IPad with no problems.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 4:35:30 GMT
The Chinks have re opened the wild animal markets where it's tHought to have originated. . Couldn't write I could ya ? 😦
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Post by nonuffin on Apr 1, 2020 8:45:24 GMT
What are you installing it on? I use it in a MacBook Pro, IPhone and IPad with no problems. Desktop pc and a laptop both running windows 10
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 12:25:57 GMT
Interesting...I read the law enacted for the Covid19 Bill and nowhere does it state in law that anyone is prevented from driving to an open space for exercise, where that trip is deemed essential. If you find that your local walks are full of people but a short drive takes to to a more open space, then no law is being broken, but the government website just states that it is "advice" to keep local to home...it is NOT law. I read where people have been stopped and fined for driving out of town to open spaces for sensible reasons of avoiding close contact with others. In these cases, the police were following the instructions of politicians telling us to "stay at home" and "don't drive for reaching a place of exercise" yet this has not been enacted into law it seems. That makes the actions of the police politicised as claimed earlier, and it's the thin end of a wedge that could with a little imagination see us drift the way of Hungary...why not, if the police are going to do the politician's asking and ignore what the law actually says? I find this situation rather worrying as there's currently no way of redressing that balance or argument to prevent being fined for trying to do what is responsible and lawful! Coronavirus Act 2020 for those who may want to look through it: www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2020/7/contents/enacted/data.htm
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Post by alit on Apr 1, 2020 13:13:39 GMT
What are you installing it on? I use it in a MacBook Pro, IPhone and IPad with no problems. Desktop pc and a laptop both running windows 10 Should be fine, I've used it on Win 10 machines no problem.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 13:53:55 GMT
Looks like England is getting a hiding today. Good luck, everyone . It looks like we might need it. 😷👍
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Post by nonuffin on Apr 1, 2020 14:33:43 GMT
Glad now I live out in the boondocks of Cornwall on a private estate.
No way would I want to live in a large town or city, so I feel for the poor souls at risk in those places.
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Post by macca on Apr 1, 2020 20:02:54 GMT
Interesting...I read the law enacted for the Covid19 Bill and nowhere does it state in law that anyone is prevented from driving to an open space for exercise, where that trip is deemed essential. If you find that your local walks are full of people but a short drive takes to to a more open space, then no law is being broken, but the government website just states that it is "advice" to keep local to home...it is NOT law. I read where people have been stopped and fined for driving out of town to open spaces for sensible reasons of avoiding close contact with others. In these cases, the police were following the instructions of politicians telling us to "stay at home" and "don't drive for reaching a place of exercise" yet this has not been enacted into law it seems. That makes the actions of the police politicised as claimed earlier, and it's the thin end of a wedge that could with a little imagination see us drift the way of Hungary...why not, if the police are going to do the politician's asking and ignore what the law actually says? I find this situation rather worrying as there's currently no way of redressing that balance or argument to prevent being fined for trying to do what is responsible and lawful! Coronavirus Act 2020 for those who may want to look through it: www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2020/7/contents/enacted/data.htmIME coppers sometimes don't know the law, or misinterpret it. I've seen a copper try to do a taxi driver for not wearing a seat belt when he's got a fare (me). I've been advised that I was committing a crime for drinking in a pub after hours. And I've been a passenger in a car that was flagged down for only displaying side -lights in a lit, built-up area. Ironically in that case the driver was also a copper and set them straight. None of those were due to the police being politicised, they just didn't know the law properly. I mean there are an awful lot of laws to learn, and with all the nuances and so forth.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 3:41:31 GMT
So , after a month of saying face mask are no good it's gone to Fart wanting to issue all Merry C#nts with rag face masks. Just shows that they've been clutching at straws with this thing and they still are. It's damn obvious its airborne or places like Spain and Italy would be slowing by now.
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Post by stevew on Apr 2, 2020 5:40:40 GMT
So , after a month of saying face mask are no good it's gone to Fart wanting to issue all Merry C#nts with rag face masks. Just shows that they've been clutching at straws with this thing and they still are. It's damn obvious its airborne or places like Spain and Italy would be slowing by now. It’s possibly in the translation but this senior South Korean doctor seems to be saying exactly the same thing. This is worth watching.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 9:48:51 GMT
I don't think anyone needs "educating" that face masks are a good prevention measure but only where they are filtered fine enough which means to FFp3, but even FFP2 will be better than a scarf pulled over your face!
We have a UVC cabinet and when my wife shops, she wears an FFP3 mask and I irradiate the thing afterwards in the cabinet to kill off any germs residing on or near the surface. It was one of my workshop masks as I usually try to get FFP3 ones. You can't get any for love nor money presently hence the UVC treatment as then we can at least re-use one several times over.
I'm also installing a UVC LED cluster in our utility and have installed remote switching sockets...all shopping or parcels go in there, the door is shut and everything zapped for 30 minutes. If you can do these things it has to reduce risk shorter term, but longer term we're all probably going to encounter this illness one way or the other.
I still maintain though that the cure will be worse than the illness. More will fall ill and into poverty as a result of any prolonged shut down. It will collapse whole economies and makes no sense. I agree that we should protect the most vulnerable, they should self isolate and be taken care of but the rest of us should be left to get on with our livelihoods and keep the country running, taking all necessary social distancing measures. Where we cannot then those jobs need to be managed to reduce risk. It's ok for the government to think we can all work from home and he speaks of mostly the middle classes working from laptops...well not everyone does work from a laptop. The whole thing's a complete shambles and mess. Lets all hope and pray that this illness subsides so that the new Law can be revoked as soon as possible and that we can get all back to our livelihoods. I can't see the public putting up with more than a few months of this, nor the economy.
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Post by stevew on Apr 2, 2020 10:04:08 GMT
Well the ‘spin’ from just last week was that face masks were only needed to stop an already infected person from spreading it further. I just don’t believe that anymore. We are faced with my wife going into a treatment centre in 2 weeks for more immunotherapy treatment. It’s not ideal, but all we have (and got when Fiona lost her immune during chemo) are some type 2 procedural masks and some trendy safety glasses I had for an old job. Also resurrected a practise we had from our days of living in India- all fruit and veg goes through a solution of Milton (the baby sterilisation stuff) plus anything else is detox wiped. It’s all we can do
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