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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 10:06:47 GMT
Do I need Belton P-ST9-700-PC valve bases, or will these be ok? link
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 29, 2020 10:07:19 GMT
Do I need Belton P-ST9-700-PC valve bases, or will these be ok? linkThey should be fine..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 12:09:26 GMT
Do I need Belton P-ST9-700-PC valve bases, or will these be ok? linkI have those fitted to my bb3, they're not bad,I also used those for my Dcb1 builds👍
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Post by nuff on Sept 22, 2020 16:25:58 GMT
Oli, I bought some of the above valves sometime ago, I totally forgot about them until today. I place 1 in the centre socket and nothing. No sound. Thought it could be a faulty valve so good job I had another 3 to try. But nothing. None are giving any sound at all. could this be due to me using the transformer from the BB1?
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Post by firebottle on Sept 22, 2020 16:31:06 GMT
Nathan you need to move the heater link to the 6N2P position.
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Post by nuff on Sept 22, 2020 16:33:55 GMT
Nathan you need to move the heater link to the 6N2P position. Ah right! is that easy to do! Do I need to de-solder something? thanks for the quick reply Alan.
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Post by nuff on Sept 22, 2020 16:36:39 GMT
Forget that. I just put on my glasses 🤓 and saw the jumper. Old age, frustrating isn’t it 🧐
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 22, 2020 16:52:48 GMT
Forget that. I just put on my glasses 🤓 and saw the jumper. Old age, frustrating isn’t it 🧐 Hahaha, yes, it's easy to miss.. Let us know how you're getting on!
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Post by nuff on Sept 22, 2020 17:17:39 GMT
Forget that. I just put on my glasses 🤓 and saw the jumper. Old age, frustrating isn’t it 🧐 Hahaha, yes, it's easy to miss.. Let us know how you're getting on! Cheers Oli
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 24, 2020 15:00:41 GMT
It's been a while since i offered any updates here, so while i am assesing my new purpose made Mains cable for the BB3, i thought i would put a bit up about whats been going on with the Phonostage. Recently it was discovered that the BF861B we use on the MultiFET PCB's were no longer being manufactured. This was really disappointing to read, as the phonostage had just hit the "it's done" landmark. Well yet again, i was on the hunt for a new Jfet and this time there seemed to be very few available that ticked all of the boxes. That was until i got a slice of information that opened things up to a wider scope of catchment. I bought 10 off, of 3 different candidates. After much listening and evaluation, i picked my favourite. The 2SK932-22-E In my opinion, this has been a bit of a blessing in disguise. The 2SK seems to have more gain, more fluidity and reminds me of the original and genuine BF862, that we would have still been using had they not become obsolete. Another fantastic result is the price. They are a little cheaper too. They are also still in production and from what i can find out they are fairly new? Either way, i have 500 in the draw and 300 of the BF861B. I will be selling the BF861B off in the next few days, as i will be using the 2SK from now on. Another part of the forward planning for this project was to try and get the BB3 in the same case as the transformer without losing ay of the magic discovered in the E&I transformer. I ordered an O-Core Transformer from James Transformer in Asia and it finally arrived today. Not their fault as the local postal system originally rejected it and sent it back! Anyway, it is here now and i am very happy with how it looks and it feels like a quality item. I am just about to nip off and plug it in to see if it hums or vibrates. If all is well, im gonna lash it up to the BB3 and see what happens. I'll update a bit later. A few pics for the interested:
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Post by sq225917 on Sept 24, 2020 15:41:45 GMT
O-cores, silent as a silent thing mate, much easier to get constant winding tension on than a toroid core with its sharp edges.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 24, 2020 16:00:43 GMT
I'd like to say this had been a success, so I will 🤣🤣 I am totally convinced that this is the equal to the EI and I am now going to build a one box Phonostage to try it out.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 24, 2020 16:03:25 GMT
O-cores, silent as a silent thing mate, much easier to get constant winding tension on than a toroid core with its sharp edges. It's bloody BRILLIANT Simon.... Now everything has warmed up, it's clean as a whistle too.....this is bloody Interesting. I've got to drop a resistor across C5P (Alan said lol...as if id know lol) as it's a bit over spec than I asked for and it reads 188v instead of 175v Just want to bring it down a wee bit, but this is definitely hitting the spot.
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Post by misterc on Sept 24, 2020 16:56:57 GMT
Have used James in the past quality stuff, is he actually manufacturing again as a couple of years ago he was just doing stuff for the local people?
Simon, with most traditionally manufactured shaped toroidal cores totally agree, however there are a few companies that you can specify both core material and shape, also the winding wire. These do incur more cost I would suggest, always a trade off in those critical areas.
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Post by mikeyb on Sept 25, 2020 8:50:59 GMT
I'd like to say this had been a success, so I will 🤣🤣 I am totally convinced that this is the equal to the EI and I am now going to build a one box Phonostage to try it out. Oh ffs 😂
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 25, 2020 9:27:50 GMT
I'd like to say this had been a success, so I will 🤣🤣 I am totally convinced that this is the equal to the EI and I am now going to build a one box Phonostage to try it out. Oh ffs 😂 Lol
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 25, 2020 14:08:40 GMT
I know! I know!
"NOW HE DOES A ONE BOX BUILD!"
I wanted a one box solution from the very beginning but it just was not possible when i heard the difference the E&I transformer made. The Torroid sounded fat and thick and the E&I just blew it away. I tried to get an O-Core transformer, but there weren't any available. I emailed James Transformer but never got a reply at the time, now he is back and making them for loads of folks at DIYAudio. Just today i see another BB3 being made with the same O-Core i have here.
But this will bring back up other issues that i had solved with the 2 box idea and using Modushop cases.
I don't like the bigger cases from modushop. There is no central support for the lid and the base, so they vibrate quite obviously when you touch them. If they adopted a more secure way of fixing the top and bottom, they would be perfect. This means i have to look elsewhere for a suibtable case. Likely from China, and also now i have to find a way of getting the logo put on the front. Modushop also did that for me, at a super price, so that is an issue i hadn't managed to solve previously.
There is no free lunch with these things and unless you start to need the services of logo makers etc, it's easy to ignore the associated costs. For instance, to have the logo etched or printed on the front, it's £80. That is almost the price of the case itself!
I am thinking the one box build could be a bit more rugged with the idea of being available for loan/demo
One box build would make it a far less time consuming build and possibly a bit cheaper too.
Only time will tell.
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Post by electronumpty on Sept 25, 2020 18:17:05 GMT
Sounds promising , think I might get one for mine. Then I can repurpose the toriod for the BB mk1 board I have.
I can use that for Lenco then as I have permission to set that up in another room 🙂
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Post by sq225917 on Sept 25, 2020 20:02:00 GMT
Agreed on the rattly lids on full width Modushop cases, pita.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 25, 2020 21:00:51 GMT
Sounds promising , think I might get one for mine. Then I can repurpose the toriod for the BB mk1 board I have. I can use that for Lenco then as I have permission to set that up in another room 🙂 Ah! That's a great move.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 25, 2020 21:04:18 GMT
Agreed on the rattly lids on full width Modushop cases, pita. Is there any way you know of to secure the lids? It makes a life a lot easier for me to buy from them lol
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Post by firebottle on Sept 26, 2020 10:03:00 GMT
I had a transfer of the Bigbottle logo done for mine and it was £15 if I remember correctly. (Just had some nice Greek wine with lunch)
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 26, 2020 10:06:07 GMT
I had a transfer of the Bigbottle logo done for mine and it was £15 if I remember correctly. (Just had some nice Greek wine with lunch) Yes, I will need the details as I have just bought one of the dreaded Chinese boxes I was warned so vehemently about. Urged to avoid actually. I'm sure it'll be perfect lol ......i love Greece......stop rubbing it in
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 26, 2020 10:08:48 GMT
Well, I have committed to making a One-Box BB3. Only one way to really know if you've cracked it, and that's to build it. Plain Jane of a box, but it will do nicely and it already has the IEC hole punched out...that's almost 40 minutes less work I'll have to do.
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Post by bruceflea on Oct 1, 2020 7:44:45 GMT
O-cores, silent as a silent thing mate, much easier to get constant winding tension on than a toroid core with its sharp edges. It's bloody BRILLIANT Simon.... Now everything has warmed up, it's clean as a whistle too.....this is bloody Interesting. I've got to drop a resistor across C5P (Alan said lol...as if id know lol) as it's a bit over spec than I asked for and it reads 188v instead of 175v Just want to bring it down a wee bit, but this is definitely hitting the spot. The one box solution is really interesting! Means I could have a spare box for an amplifier build! The screened mains cable looks great too! Would I be running into problems by mounting the o transformer below the board?
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 1, 2020 8:49:02 GMT
It's bloody BRILLIANT Simon.... Now everything has warmed up, it's clean as a whistle too.....this is bloody Interesting. I've got to drop a resistor across C5P (Alan said lol...as if id know lol) as it's a bit over spec than I asked for and it reads 188v instead of 175v Just want to bring it down a wee bit, but this is definitely hitting the spot. The one box solution is really interesting! Means I could have a spare box for an amplifier build! The screened mains cable looks great too! Would I be running into problems by mounting the o transformer below the board? Most likely. The idea of making it in one box is so I have a loan unit. It seems to be the stumbling block between converting interest into sales. Being a very small unknown "brand" I think people need a little bit of convincing. There is no benefit to going from 2 boxes, to 1, other than you can dispense with the umbilical cord, which I have never liked btw. Other than that, sonically it makes very little discernable difference that I can hear
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Post by bruceflea on Oct 1, 2020 9:14:28 GMT
Cheers Oliver, sorry for hi-jacking your thread, just saw a firebottle amp for sale yesterday and thought that would look amazing with the BB3 in a matching box, hence the one box interest! Certainly not a problem keeping the supply in a seperate box. Think though mate the BB3 ball is rolling, just need to get back to normal, get the BB3 into bake offs and everyone will see just how good it is!
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 1, 2020 14:36:01 GMT
Cheers Oliver, sorry for hi-jacking your thread, just saw a firebottle amp for sale yesterday and thought that would look amazing with the BB3 in a matching box, hence the one box interest! Certainly not a problem keeping the supply in a seperate box. Think though mate the BB3 ball is rolling, just need to get back to normal, get the BB3 into bake offs and everyone will see just how good it is! It's a good Phonostage mate
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Post by bruceflea on Oct 2, 2020 7:38:15 GMT
Cheers Oliver, sorry for hi-jacking your thread, just saw a firebottle amp for sale yesterday and thought that would look amazing with the BB3 in a matching box, hence the one box interest! Certainly not a problem keeping the supply in a seperate box. Think though mate the BB3 ball is rolling, just need to get back to normal, get the BB3 into bake offs and everyone will see just how good it is! It's a good Phonostage mate It’s more than good mate, it’s a brilliant phonostage, I’ve just been a little unfortunate with mine, ( which is all down to me), but mate as we both know that is about to change!
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 2, 2020 7:51:29 GMT
It's a good Phonostage mate It’s more than good mate, it’s a brilliant phonostage, I’ve just been a little unfortunate with mine but mate that is all about to change! Yes it is 😉
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