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Post by pete on Jan 17, 2023 13:20:20 GMT
In my town we have three secondary schools, children travel to them from surrounding villages. When I was Headteacher of one of those schools the vast majority of children travelled to the secondary on the bus, this was also the case from the other villages. However, were and are still loads of cars taking children to school. We looked into this and the majority were children, who lived in the town, being dropped off by their parents on the way to work. The longer journeys were being done on the bus, the shorted ones in cars, nuts isn't it. So how do we make it more attractive to walk to school for shorter distances? Primary schools organised a walking bus where children waited at stops on the route until the crocodile of children arrived and they joined on the end, it worked well and was very sociable. It relied on volunteer parents to run it, and over time volunteers were harder to find, until in the end most of the walking busses stopped. They needed a large number of volunteers, at least 3 for each 'journey'. and with 10 journeys week, and back ups needed for illness it was a lot of people to keep it going. So primary children, even a few hundred meters from the school, were back in cars. I always thought for secondary pupils the answer was to make it so uncool to come to school in your parents car you would always choose to walk! I am working with my local council trying to reduce car journeys, it seems to be about as hard to do this as it is to succeed in reducing spend on my hifi system!
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 18, 2023 17:49:55 GMT
Yes pete , i live near about 6 schools and nurseries .parking is utterly horrendous and there is also plans for a 2000 capacity mosque about 10 doors away
Friday is crazy as is school time ...double parking , triple parking etc etc . When i was a boy i walked 3 miles to school .
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 18, 2023 17:52:37 GMT
Worrying about an elderly friend in hospital very poorly
Clearing a house and estate agent came round and had a booking within a very shirt time .it is a tremendous bargain though and in the most fab position near the sea , schools ,churches , pubs etc etc
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Post by Pigmy Pony on Jan 18, 2023 22:36:00 GMT
Today the decorator who is doing our walls and woodwork sanded the window boards in our living room, a job I imagined would involve a few sheets of sandpaper and a bit of elbow grease... wrong! We went out to get out of the way for a couple of hours, and returned to find he'd used an orbital sander with a busted dust bag. My speakers looked like survivors of Pompeii's worst day He was quite apologetic and offered to wipe them clean with a rag, an offer I graciously turned down while quietly fuming. Anyway I've now moved all the gear, including all the records and CDs. That was a job and a half, and I'll be tunes-less for at least a week now. They do say it's darkest before the dawn.
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Post by jandl100 on Jan 19, 2023 7:27:12 GMT
.... and I'll be tunes-less for at least a week now. They do say it's darkest before the dawn. I can lend you some rather nice headphones if that would help. Posted today, with you tomorrow.
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Post by optical on Jan 19, 2023 7:56:11 GMT
Today the decorator who is doing our walls and woodwork sanded the window boards in our living room, a job I imagined would involve a few sheets of sandpaper and a bit of elbow grease... wrong! We went out to get out of the way for a couple of hours, and returned to find he'd used an orbital sander with a busted dust bag. My speakers looked like survivors of Pompeii's worst day He was quite apologetic and offered to wipe them clean with a rag, an offer I graciously turned down while quietly fuming. Anyway I've now moved all the gear, including all the records and CDs. That was a job and a half, and I'll be tunes-less for at least a week now. They do say it's darkest before the dawn. My god . . . . I'd be mad as hell, well done for keeping your cool. The records! . . . I'd have to clean all of them (no matter how well stored/protected they were), sorry I really don't mean to make it sound too awful, as you seem to have already done, just got to take it on the chin, it is what it is, the guy wouldn't have done it on purpose. Now if you had electrostatic speakers . . . he's be in a hole in the ground . . . (I jest of course . . . ) Good luck with the 'clear up' operation, you have my full sympathies.
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Post by Pigmy Pony on Jan 19, 2023 10:50:30 GMT
.... and I'll be tunes-less for at least a week now. They do say it's darkest before the dawn. I can lend you some rather nice headphones if that would help. Posted today, with you tomorrow. Thank you Jerry, that's a very kind offer... you've looked after me more than once over the years... but I do have some hardly-used headphones which I can plug into an Amazon Echo Dot. Not the last word in hifi, but better than a poke in the eye. The real fun will start after the new carpets go down next Monday, and I have to re-install all the hifi, TV, Sky, broadband gubbins and 5.1 surround stuff. It'll all be worth it in the end, I keep telling myself. With all this stuff out of the room, first thing Mrs. P noticed was how 'live' the room sounds. And that is with the carpet and sofas still in. All the ornaments, plants, and equipment must have being having a significant effect on the sound, diffusing rather than absorbing , I expect. When things go back we are ditching the vertical blinds in favour of curtains, which should be a good thing hopefully.
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 19, 2023 16:53:56 GMT
Yes people admire these big speakers weighing 100k but when it comes to decorating its a pain
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 19, 2023 16:57:27 GMT
Met with house clearnce guy today to get a quote and showed a lovely couple round the house who wanted to buy it .ideal as he is a builder and knows about the idiosyncrasies of the house like solar panels etc .got a pretty good deal really Considering the market
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Post by Pigmy Pony on Jan 19, 2023 18:34:27 GMT
Met with house clearnce guy today to get a quote and showed a lovely couple round the house who wanted to buy it .ideal as he is a builder and knows about the idiosyncrasies of the house like solar panels etc .got a pretty good deal really Considering the market When solar took off about 15 years ago, there was a real incentive - feed-in tariff of 49p guaranteed by the govt for 25 years. A lot of 'entrepreneurs' saw what a money maker that could be, and started offering "free solar", where the customers got the electricity and the installing company got the feed-in tariff. This would amount to around £2,500 per installation, so if that company did just 100 installations that could bring in a quarter of a million per year. A nice little retirement fund. So the govt decided their arrangement was "unsustainable" and reduced the tariff to 22p. Then down again to 12p for 20 years. Then fell even further to the point where it was only worth bothering for seriously 'green' folk. With energy prices as they are these days, I see solar becoming a thing again. though it won't be me clambering on roofs fitting them - those days are behind me! The above figures may be a little out, I've slept since then
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 19, 2023 20:47:47 GMT
Today it looks as though the Government have delivered a pay offer to the rail industry that successfully splits the loyalty of membership by at least third.
The "Driver Only" stipulation that had Train Guards across the country standing firm with station staff, catering staff and anyone not "on-train", has been removed from the table.
They will now be the most eager to accept a total of 9% (4% 2022 and 5% from 1/1/23 onward) pay increase, now that their jobs are secure.
However, ALL ticket offices will close and be repurposed under the new offer, with staff having no home location and being made to work at any station within a specific radius.
The rest of the deal includes a 7 day railway, and Christmas Day and Boxing day now being taken out of employees AL entitlement for the year, instead of being bank holidays as they are now.
Asked by the powers that be on how I would vote on this matter, my response was brief:
F#ck the Tories.
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Post by pete on Jan 19, 2023 20:58:12 GMT
Today it looks as though the Government have delivered a pay offer to the rail industry that successfully splits the loyalty of membership by at least third. The "Driver Only" stipulation that had Train Guards across the country standing firm with station staff, catering staff and anyone not "on-train", has been removed from the table. They will now be the most eager to accept a total of 9% (4% 2022 and 5% from 1/1/23 onward) pay increase, now that their jobs are secure. However, ALL ticket offices will close and be repurposed under the new offer, with staff having no home location and being made to work at any station within a specific radius. The rest of the deal includes a 7 day railway, and Christmas Day and Boxing day now being taken out of employees AL entitlement for the year, instead of being bank holidays as they are now. Asked by the powers that be on how I would vote on this matter, my response was brief: F#ck the Tories. Bloody Hell, I completely agree with your response. Thoughts and support are with you and all others in the same position as yourself
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 20, 2023 13:50:18 GMT
Today I am sorting out the garage. I've become encumbered by the vast amounts of tat my mom had in the loft. She moved to a smaller gaff a couple of years ago, and asked to store some stuff here until she'd settled in. Being the "good lad" that I am, I agreed. Now, I need the space, so stuff has to be sorted out. Back in the day, my old man told me about a suitcase in the loft that had "as many different newspapers as I could get" that were printed on the day of John Lennon's death. Needless to say, I found it and went nosing around. It's a veritable treasure trove. Beatles books, biographies, the original Get Back album companion book....there's a fair bit to get through. I have now got distracted and the garage hasn't really had the overhaul it needed. Better discipline required.
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Post by stevew on Jan 20, 2023 14:01:47 GMT
Today it looks as though the Government have delivered a pay offer to the rail industry that successfully splits the loyalty of membership by at least third. The "Driver Only" stipulation that had Train Guards across the country standing firm with station staff, catering staff and anyone not "on-train", has been removed from the table. They will now be the most eager to accept a total of 9% (4% 2022 and 5% from 1/1/23 onward) pay increase, now that their jobs are secure. However, ALL ticket offices will close and be repurposed under the new offer, with staff having no home location and being made to work at any station within a specific radius. The rest of the deal includes a 7 day railway, and Christmas Day and Boxing day now being taken out of employees AL entitlement for the year, instead of being bank holidays as they are now. Asked by the powers that be on how I would vote on this matter, my response was brief: F#ck the Tories. Interesting video..
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Post by macca on Jan 21, 2023 8:46:36 GMT
I'm in favour of re-nationalising the railway and running it as non-profit (likewise for water and power) but the bloke commentating on that video is an idiot.
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 21, 2023 11:22:01 GMT
Met with house clearnce guy today to get a quote and showed a lovely couple round the house who wanted to buy it .ideal as he is a builder and knows about the idiosyncrasies of the house like solar panels etc .got a pretty good deal really Considering the market When solar took off about 15 years ago, there was a real incentive - feed-in tariff of 49p guaranteed by the govt for 25 years. A lot of 'entrepreneurs' saw what a money maker that could be, and started offering "free solar", where the customers got the electricity and the installing company got the feed-in tariff. This would amount to around £2,500 per installation, so if that company did just 100 installations that could bring in a quarter of a million per year. A nice little retirement fund. So the govt decided their arrangement was "unsustainable" and reduced the tariff to 22p. Then down again to 12p for 20 years. Then fell even further to the point where it was only worth bothering for seriously 'green' folk. With energy prices as they are these days, I see solar becoming a thing again. though it won't be me clambering on roofs fitting them - those days are behind me! The above figures may be a little out, I've slept since then thanks from what i can see she is getting 3-400 a year off these panels which is fair but take a very long time to recoup the costs !!!
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 21, 2023 11:24:00 GMT
wow ... the thing about the ticket offices is bad . i used 2 of them yesterday to advise and rebook a train i missed
we need them
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Post by macca on Jan 21, 2023 11:58:17 GMT
Today I am sorting out the garage. I've become encumbered by the vast amounts of tat my mom had in the loft. She moved to a smaller gaff a couple of years ago, and asked to store some stuff here until she'd settled in. Being the "good lad" that I am, I agreed. Now, I need the space, so stuff has to be sorted out. Back in the day, my old man told me about a suitcase in the loft that had "as many different newspapers as I could get" that were printed on the day of John Lennon's death. Needless to say, I found it and went nosing around. It's a veritable treasure trove. Beatles books, biographies, the original Get Back album companion book....there's a fair bit to get through. I have now got distracted and the garage hasn't really had the overhaul it needed. Better discipline required. The Liverpool Echo back when it was a proper newspaper. I remember that. Also remember Binns department store, it was very expensive. Long gone, like the typewriters they are advertising. Was getting dressed for school when I heard about John Lennon on the radio. It was hard to believe.
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 21, 2023 12:18:55 GMT
I'm in favour of re-nationalising the railway and running it as non-profit (likewise for water and power) but the bloke commentating on that video is an idiot. Network rail has been under government control since 1/9/2014. Network rail are responsible for maintaining track, signals and all infrastructure for the railway apart from some stations, that are maintained by the franchise holders. Their current reasoning for renationalisation is that they will provide a more economical cost to the UK, rather than using public money to supplement Private Commpany profits. They will improve customer service, more trains will be on time, less cost to the tax payer....etc, etc. Since the GOV took over Network rail, this is how their version of "improvement" looks: Train cancellations due to infrastructure issues have increased year on year since the GOV took over, because they haven't invested in maintanance and have CUT maintanance schedules almost in half. This is a fact and is checkable. The numbers wrongly report an upturn in performance since 2020, due to the massivley reduced timetable they operated for covid. They havent reinvested in the infrastructure, even though for the last 6-ish years they have had almost all train operating companies in a management style contract where the companies get a set percentage of the revenue, and the GOV keep the majority. My train operating company was running on a 1% share of the management contract the government put in place for covid. They are only just off that and into a similarly crap contract. So, you have the government strangling the profits for the train operating companies, you then have to pay them with public money to continue running trains because without it, the companies can't affort to operate, and the government saying that they dont want to prop up these companies with public money....but they are taking it all out! Then you have them trying to "back door" privatise the railway by controlling the parameters that the RDG and NR can negotiate pay deals. Their plan to improve the railway is to remove all ticket offices and start new joiners to the railway on contracts that include forced overtime, staggered progressive pay structure, so you start on less money than the guy who's been here for two years doing the same job, and you will not catch him up for 5 years in the new plan. They have cut the length of sick pay for anyone with less than 5 years service, so today some had 26 weeks at full pay, but if this agreed, they will get 6 weeks instead. I could go on....but it's grim reading. They are not interested in improving the railway. They want the profits and they are cutting any possible cost they can to rake in as much as they can. Anyone who thinks the government is going to improve a publically owned service need only look at the NHS for confimation of their inability to do so. I would not have ANY issue with renationalisation if i thought they would use the profits to prop up the NHS. But they won't. Privataisation resulted in a more efficient network, higher levels of investment, better rolling stock, shorter journey times, better terms and conditions for workers, higher levels of safety and the highest recorded levels of customer satisfaction in history.
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Post by gninnam on Jan 21, 2023 12:49:02 GMT
Well said Oli
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Post by gninnam on Jan 21, 2023 12:50:20 GMT
Plucking up the courage to work in the garage on the motorbike.... Need to drop the front wheel to remove a broken bolt that holds the front mudguard on.
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Post by firebottle on Jan 21, 2023 12:56:32 GMT
The more you hear about the real goings on behind privatisation/public sector workers/NHS/Royal Mail et al, the more and more the current government all appear as counts. (Remove one ketter from the last word) I am utterly appalled that the UK is in the state it is, it almost beggars belief.
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Post by macca on Jan 21, 2023 13:08:24 GMT
I'm in favour of re-nationalising the railway and running it as non-profit (likewise for water and power) but the bloke commentating on that video is an idiot. Network rail has been under government control since 1/9/2014. Network rail are responsible for maintaining track, signals and all infrastructure for the railway apart from some stations, that are maintained by the franchise holders. Their current reasoning for renationalisation is that they will provide a more economical cost to the UK, rather than using public money to supplement Private Commpany profits. They will improve customer service, more trains will be on time, less cost to the tax payer....etc, etc. Since the GOV took over Network rail, this is how their version of "improvement" looks: Train cancellations due to infrastructure issues have increased year on year since the GOV took over, because they haven't invested in maintanance and have CUT maintanance schedules almost in half. This is a fact and is checkable. The numbers wrongly report an upturn in performance since 2020, due to the massivley reduced timetable they operated for covid. They havent reinvested in the infrastructure, even though for the last 6-ish years they have had almost all train operating companies in a management style contract where the companies get a set percentage of the revenue, and the GOV keep the majority. My train operating company was running on a 1% share of the management contract the government put in place for covid. They are only just off that and into a similarly crap contract. So, you have the government strangling the profits for the train operating companies, you then have to pay them with public money to continue running trains because without it, the companies can't affort to operate, and the government saying that they dont want to prop up these companies with public money....but they are taking it all out! Then you have them trying to "back door" privatise the railway by controlling the parameters that the RDG and NR can negotiate pay deals. Their plan to improve the railway is to remove all ticket offices and start new joiners to the railway on contracts that include forced overtime, staggered progressive pay structure, so you start on less money than the guy who's been here for two years doing the same job, and you will not catch him up for 5 years in the new plan. They have cut the length of sick pay for anyone with less than 5 years service, so today some had 26 weeks at full pay, but if this agreed, they will get 6 weeks instead. I could go on....but it's grim reading. They are not interested in improving the railway. They want the profits and they are cutting any possible cost they can to rake in as much as they can. Anyone who thinks the government is going to improve a publically owned service need only look at the NHS for confimation of their inability to do so. I would not have ANY issue with renationalisation if i thought they would use the profits to prop up the NHS. But they won't. Privataisation resulted in a more efficient network, higher levels of investment, better rolling stock, shorter journey times, better terms and conditions for workers, higher levels of safety and the highest recorded levels of customer satisfaction in history. I agree with what you are saying and don't dispute the fact that privatisation improved the overall service, at least in most areas of the country, there have been a few disasters. Network Rail have never been a 'proper' independent company. They were my biggest account when I was with Arriva, and quite lucrative since they, along with the police, didn't seem to care what they spent. There seemed to be next to no scrutiny of costs unlike what I encountered with the accounts that were companies with shareholders to answer to. This is the same problem with the NHS. No control of costs - plus NHS is riddled with management incompetence. A nationalised organisation does not have to be run badly, it just needs sufficient in-built controls when it is set up, and an effective system of scrutiny. Put the responsibility on senior management - if they fail to deliver then they're gone, no golden farewells or payoffs, your contracts terminated as of now, clear your desk. I don't think privatisation is ideal for passenger rail travel since to my knowledge no-one has ever run a profitable passenger rail service since the locomotive was invented. The essential costs are too high. To make a genuine profit whilst maintaining safety and acceptable standards of service the ticket prices would have to be astronomical. Obviously the cost of the subsidy to the taxpayer has to be balanced against the revenue generated by the increase in economic activity resulting from having an effective passenger rail network. So it's not inherently a bad thing. But seems to make more sense to me to avoid subsidising the profits as well as costs. Hence nationalisation.
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Post by gninnam on Jan 21, 2023 13:18:40 GMT
The more you hear about the real goings on behind privatisation/public sector workers/NHS/Royal Mail et al, the more and more the current government all appear as counts. (Remove one ketter from the last word) I am utterly appalled that the UK is in the state it is, it almost beggars belief. Apart from it has been every Government for the last 50 years plus that appear to have no idea what they are doing - all seem to be in it for their own ego/pocket etc......
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 21, 2023 13:18:43 GMT
Network rail has been under government control since 1/9/2014. Network rail are responsible for maintaining track, signals and all infrastructure for the railway apart from some stations, that are maintained by the franchise holders. Their current reasoning for renationalisation is that they will provide a more economical cost to the UK, rather than using public money to supplement Private Commpany profits. They will improve customer service, more trains will be on time, less cost to the tax payer....etc, etc. Since the GOV took over Network rail, this is how their version of "improvement" looks: Train cancellations due to infrastructure issues have increased year on year since the GOV took over, because they haven't invested in maintanance and have CUT maintanance schedules almost in half. This is a fact and is checkable. The numbers wrongly report an upturn in performance since 2020, due to the massivley reduced timetable they operated for covid. They havent reinvested in the infrastructure, even though for the last 6-ish years they have had almost all train operating companies in a management style contract where the companies get a set percentage of the revenue, and the GOV keep the majority. My train operating company was running on a 1% share of the management contract the government put in place for covid. They are only just off that and into a similarly crap contract. So, you have the government strangling the profits for the train operating companies, you then have to pay them with public money to continue running trains because without it, the companies can't affort to operate, and the government saying that they dont want to prop up these companies with public money....but they are taking it all out! Then you have them trying to "back door" privatise the railway by controlling the parameters that the RDG and NR can negotiate pay deals. Their plan to improve the railway is to remove all ticket offices and start new joiners to the railway on contracts that include forced overtime, staggered progressive pay structure, so you start on less money than the guy who's been here for two years doing the same job, and you will not catch him up for 5 years in the new plan. They have cut the length of sick pay for anyone with less than 5 years service, so today some had 26 weeks at full pay, but if this agreed, they will get 6 weeks instead. I could go on....but it's grim reading. They are not interested in improving the railway. They want the profits and they are cutting any possible cost they can to rake in as much as they can. Anyone who thinks the government is going to improve a publically owned service need only look at the NHS for confimation of their inability to do so. I would not have ANY issue with renationalisation if i thought they would use the profits to prop up the NHS. But they won't. Privataisation resulted in a more efficient network, higher levels of investment, better rolling stock, shorter journey times, better terms and conditions for workers, higher levels of safety and the highest recorded levels of customer satisfaction in history. I agree with what you are saying and don't dispute the fact that privatisation improved the overall service, at least in most areas of the country, there have been a few disasters. Network Rail have never been a 'proper' independent company. They were my biggest account when I was with Arriva, and quite lucrative since they, along with the police, didn't seem to care what they spent. There seemed to be next to no scrutiny of costs unlike what I encountered with the accounts that were companies with shareholders to answer to. This is the same problem with the NHS. No control of costs - plus NHS is riddled with management incompetence. A nationalised organisation does not have to be run badly, it just needs sufficient in-built controls when it is set up, and an effective system of scrutiny. Put the responsibility on senior management - if they fail to deliver then they're gone, no golden farewells or payoffs, your contracts terminated as of now, clear your desk. I don't think privatisation is ideal for passenger rail travel since to my knowledge no-one has ever run a profitable passenger rail service since the locomotive was invented. The essential costs are too high. To make a genuine profit whilst maintaining safety and acceptable standards of service the ticket prices would have to be astronomical. Obviously the cost of the subsidy to the taxpayer has to be balanced against the revenue generated by the increase in economic activity resulting from having an effective passenger rail network. So it's not inherently a bad thing. But seems to make more sense to me to avoid subsidising the profits as well as costs. Hence nationalisation. Nationalising the railway will not reduce the amount of public money the GOV has to put into it, it will still require the same amount of Diesel, Electricity etc to run trains. The cost of rental contracts will not go down, they will only go up etc. The issue i have is the narrative and the result of the potential nationalisation. It's a publicity stunt. The various groups that hold the GOV to account for their spending are outraged that the UK rail industry is receiving UK tax payer money to subsidise it, not because it's public money, but because these companies are using these public funds to REDUCE rail fares in their own countries. The UK commuter is subsidising the ticket prices of France, Holland and Germany, who are able to pay far less for their journys thanks to the profits these companies make in the UK...some of that profit is subsidaries from the UK GOV. THAT is why the GOV want to renationalise. They want that money, and if they get it, it will not go into reducing rail fares in the UK, nor will it go on improving the service, journey times, rolling stock etc. It won't go on the NHS, road repairs etc Instead, the Tories will pump it all into the pockets of it's MPs and supporters. All whilst claiming they can't give any public sector worker a decent payrise and claiming the rising ticket costs are due to rail wages!!!
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Post by macca on Jan 21, 2023 15:46:12 GMT
I agree with what you are saying and don't dispute the fact that privatisation improved the overall service, at least in most areas of the country, there have been a few disasters. Network Rail have never been a 'proper' independent company. They were my biggest account when I was with Arriva, and quite lucrative since they, along with the police, didn't seem to care what they spent. There seemed to be next to no scrutiny of costs unlike what I encountered with the accounts that were companies with shareholders to answer to. This is the same problem with the NHS. No control of costs - plus NHS is riddled with management incompetence. A nationalised organisation does not have to be run badly, it just needs sufficient in-built controls when it is set up, and an effective system of scrutiny. Put the responsibility on senior management - if they fail to deliver then they're gone, no golden farewells or payoffs, your contracts terminated as of now, clear your desk. I don't think privatisation is ideal for passenger rail travel since to my knowledge no-one has ever run a profitable passenger rail service since the locomotive was invented. The essential costs are too high. To make a genuine profit whilst maintaining safety and acceptable standards of service the ticket prices would have to be astronomical. Obviously the cost of the subsidy to the taxpayer has to be balanced against the revenue generated by the increase in economic activity resulting from having an effective passenger rail network. So it's not inherently a bad thing. But seems to make more sense to me to avoid subsidising the profits as well as costs. Hence nationalisation. Nationalising the railway will not reduce the amount of public money the GOV has to put into it, it will still require the same amount of Diesel, Electricity etc to run trains. The cost of rental contracts will not go down, they will only go up etc. The issue i have is the narrative and the result of the potential nationalisation. It's a publicity stunt. The various groups that hold the GOV to account for their spending are outraged that the UK rail industry is receiving UK tax payer money to subsidise it, not because it's public money, but because these companies are using these public funds to REDUCE rail fares in their own countries. The UK commuter is subsidising the ticket prices of France, Holland and Germany, who are able to pay far less for their journys thanks to the profits these companies make in the UK...some of that profit is subsidaries from the UK GOV. THAT is why the GOV want to renationalise. They want that money, and if they get it, it will not go into reducing rail fares in the UK, nor will it go on improving the service, journey times, rolling stock etc. It won't go on the NHS, road repairs etc Instead, the Tories will pump it all into the pockets of it's MPs and supporters. All whilst claiming they can't give any public sector worker a decent payrise and claiming the rising ticket costs are due to rail wages!!! My point was that either way a subsidy for passenger railways is necessary, but at the moment the subsidy includes subsidising the shareholders i.e their dividend from the make-believe profits. If you nationalise then there are no shareholders to subsidise. Consequently either less subsidy will be required or they keep the same level of subsidy and have more money available for things like ticket office staff and conductors. That may be wrong or possibly over-simplistic, I'm a layman in the area of railways, but it seems like common-sense to a bystander.
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 21, 2023 15:56:51 GMT
Nationalising the railway will not reduce the amount of public money the GOV has to put into it, it will still require the same amount of Diesel, Electricity etc to run trains. The cost of rental contracts will not go down, they will only go up etc. The issue i have is the narrative and the result of the potential nationalisation. It's a publicity stunt. The various groups that hold the GOV to account for their spending are outraged that the UK rail industry is receiving UK tax payer money to subsidise it, not because it's public money, but because these companies are using these public funds to REDUCE rail fares in their own countries. The UK commuter is subsidising the ticket prices of France, Holland and Germany, who are able to pay far less for their journys thanks to the profits these companies make in the UK...some of that profit is subsidaries from the UK GOV. THAT is why the GOV want to renationalise. They want that money, and if they get it, it will not go into reducing rail fares in the UK, nor will it go on improving the service, journey times, rolling stock etc. It won't go on the NHS, road repairs etc Instead, the Tories will pump it all into the pockets of it's MPs and supporters. All whilst claiming they can't give any public sector worker a decent payrise and claiming the rising ticket costs are due to rail wages!!! My point was that either way a subsidy for passenger railways is necessary, but at the moment the subsidy includes subsidising the shareholders i.e their dividend from the make-believe profits. If you nationalise then there are no shareholders to subsidise. Consequently either less subsidy will be required or they keep the same level of subsidy and have more money available for things like ticket office staff and conductors. That may be wrong or possibly over-simplistic, I'm a layman in the area of railways, but it seems like common-sense to a bystander. No, you're correct in that the money would not be leaving the UK, but the issue is reinvestment. At present, there is a certain level of investment from the private firms. A level the GOV will not agree to. That's my issue with it all. The Bullshit.
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 21, 2023 19:57:31 GMT
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Post by Pigmy Pony on Jan 21, 2023 21:04:49 GMT
Phil, regarding the solar panels:
Most people see them as a 'fit and forget' thing, but giving them a clean every twelve months or so may give some improvement in efficiency. They can get a bit manky if neglected. A friendly window cleaner with one of those long stick hoses might be able to do this. If I had solar I'd be cleaning the panels periodically.
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Post by electronumpty on Jan 21, 2023 23:59:41 GMT
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