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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 18:27:09 GMT
Anybody got any listening experience with these? Apparently they were a no expense spared type of design but faced cost cutting measures before production. A pair has come up local to me, way overpriced and in need of new rubbers on every driver. I won't buy them but these have piqued my interest. A bit of information here: www.omte.nl/FB825.htm |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 18:39:20 GMT
Not heard those, but I'll admit, I tend not to like speakers with ribbon tweeters.
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 11, 2019 18:54:56 GMT
They look well made, but I’ve never seen them before.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 19:07:28 GMT
They look well made, but I’ve never seen them before. No, the ribbon tweeter caught my eye and as I delve a bit further they looked to be very interesting. Latex surrounds on the drivers originally but produced with foam or later on with rubber. Must admit, I'm intrigued. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 22:52:06 GMT
There was a few models in the FB range including one with flat honeycomb drivers and ribbon tweeters; always fancied a pair. The flagship model was active and digital ready. The Audiophile did a feature on it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 22:56:37 GMT
There was a few models in the FB range including one with flat honeycomb drivers and ribbon tweeters; always fancied a pair. The flagship model was active and digital ready. The Audiophile did a feature on it. Oh, OK. They are Interesting but the clown local to me wants £550. Every driver needs new foam surrounds and one of the drivers has no decorative plastic surround to cover the screw holes. I may send him an offer of £150 if the foams are still available. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 23:04:50 GMT
Well definitely not worth that much. 150 might be fair but he might be too much of an idiot to think so.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 23:21:49 GMT
Well definitely not worth that much. 150 might be fair but he might be too much of an idiot to think so. Yup, I agree. There's a set in .NL for €180 in pretty much the same condition so I based it in that. Who knows, might be lucky. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 18:42:57 GMT
Spoke the the seller today and as suspected, he's not going to play ball.
£400 is the lowest he will take. I wished him good luck.
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 12, 2019 18:45:25 GMT
Spoke the the seller today and as suspected, he's not going to play ball. £400 is the lowest he will take. I wished him good luck. I would’ve wished him a miracle. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 18:47:23 GMT
Spoke the the seller today and as suspected, he's not going to play ball. £400 is the lowest he will take. I wished him good luck. I would’ve wished him a miracle. Lol, There is an absolute mint pair for £500 In Europe so i suspect he's seen this and his eyes lit up. He need a mug to buy them at that price. |
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Post by macca on Aug 12, 2019 19:48:21 GMT
They look like they could be very good. 3 way with the crossovers right out of the presence band. But he's having laugh asking £400 when all the drivers need doing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 20:02:44 GMT
They look like they could be very good. 3 way with the crossovers right out of the presence band. But he's having laugh asking £400 when all the drivers need doing. Yes I agree. They look to be worthy of a listen but it's just way overpriced. Shame because I took a shine to them instantly. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 12, 2019 20:08:19 GMT
They look like they could be very good. 3 way with the crossovers right out of the presence band. But he's having laugh asking £400 when all the drivers need doing. Yes I agree. They look to be worthy of a listen but it's just way overpriced. Shame because I took a shine to them instantly. I also think they would be a tough sell, if you didn’t want to keep them. Lots of people probably wouldn’t buy a speaker from Philips, me included. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 12, 2019 20:12:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 20:17:07 GMT
Yes I agree. They look to be worthy of a listen but it's just way overpriced. Shame because I took a shine to them instantly. I also think they would be a tough sell, if you didn’t want to keep them. Lots of people probably wouldn’t buy a speaker from Philips, me included. Philips made some well thought out gear, remember, most transports of note had a Philips built assembly and the most desirable ones still fetch great money. I know they aren't a prestige speaker but there is something about them that says to me that they are worth a listen. Plus cats are puuuurfect for vibration damping lol |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 20:52:24 GMT
I also think they would be a tough sell, if you didn’t want to keep them. Lots of people probably wouldn’t buy a speaker from Philips, me included. Philips made some well thought out gear, remember, most transports of note had a Philips built assembly and the most desirable ones still fetch great money. I know they aren't a prestige speaker but there is something about them that says to me that they are worth a listen. Plus cats are puuuurfect for vibration damping lol I keep thinking the opposite. I reckon they'd be a big disappointment mate. I've just scrapped a small pair of Philips ribbon tweeter speakers, they just weren't nice. In fact Philips were guilty of making one of the nastiest tweeters around, the AD0160, although that didn't stop Goodmans using them in their SL series speakers, which all had a nasty sizzle at the top! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 21:00:16 GMT
Philips made some well thought out gear, remember, most transports of note had a Philips built assembly and the most desirable ones still fetch great money. I know they aren't a prestige speaker but there is something about them that says to me that they are worth a listen. Plus cats are puuuurfect for vibration damping lol I keep thinking the opposite. I reckon they'd be a big disappointment mate. I've just scrapped a small pair of Philips ribbon tweeter speakers, they just weren't nice. In fact Philips were guilty of making one of the nastiest tweeters around, the AD0160, although that didn't stop Goodmans using them in their SL series speakers, which all had a nasty sizzle at the top! Hmm, I think it's one of those times that we just won't find out. They certainly have a cult following but we'll never know. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 21:02:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 21:23:01 GMT
But what about bass! I just can't see a 10" full range driver hitting those low notes with authority |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 21:26:39 GMT
But what about bass! I just can't see a 10" full range driver hitting those low notes with authority It's designed for use in a big reflex box, it'll go plenty deep enough. There is a 12" version too though, although I'd favour the 10". |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 21:39:59 GMT
Tell me why geoff
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 12, 2019 21:44:40 GMT
Just get some Control 1s and be done with it  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 21:48:22 GMT
Well like I said, it'll go plenty deep enough. Also, ten inch is about as big as you can go with a full range unit without cone colourations through the mid getting too intrusive. One of the most potent bottom ends I've ever heard came from a speaker using a ten inch driver and that was the ESS AMT1 Tower, they are highly sought after. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 21:59:30 GMT
Well like I said, it'll go plenty deep enough. Also, ten inch is about as big as you can go with a full range unit without cone colourations through the mid getting too intrusive. One of the most potent bottom ends I've ever heard came from a speaker using a ten inch driver and that was the ESS AMT1 Tower, they are highly sought after. Doing a bit of research into the drivers you linked to and they seem to be pretty well liked ***EDIT: Looked at the wrong drivers. Ignore me lol*** Its just that whole "got to build a cab" thing that puts me on the back foot. I have a mate who is a carpenter and im sure he'd knock a set up but are they going to crucify the pioneers? is it worth the aggro? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 22:12:10 GMT
Well like I said, it'll go plenty deep enough. Also, ten inch is about as big as you can go with a full range unit without cone colourations through the mid getting too intrusive. One of the most potent bottom ends I've ever heard came from a speaker using a ten inch driver and that was the ESS AMT1 Tower, they are highly sought after. Doing a bit of research into the drivers you linked to and they seem to be pretty well liked ***EDIT: Looked at the wrong drivers. Ignore me lol*** Its just that whole "got to build a cab" thing that puts me on the back foot. I have a mate who is a carpenter and im sure he'd knock a set up but are they going to crucify the pioneers? is it worth the aggro? I can't answer that. But it sure would be fun finding out!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 22:15:55 GMT
Doing a bit of research into the drivers you linked to and they seem to be pretty well liked ***EDIT: Looked at the wrong drivers. Ignore me lol*** Its just that whole "got to build a cab" thing that puts me on the back foot. I have a mate who is a carpenter and im sure he'd knock a set up but are they going to crucify the pioneers? is it worth the aggro? I can't answer that. But it sure would be fun finding out! You know geoff, it could be a lot of fun. I like the look of the drivers and they seem to have a decent cabinet drawing to go with it. I'll have a chat with my carpenter friend and see what price id be looking at for his help. As you have done a boat load on speakers, what material would you build the cabs out of? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 22:23:55 GMT
I can't answer that. But it sure would be fun finding out! You know geoff, it could be a lot of fun. I like the look of the drivers and they seem to have a decent cabinet drawing to go with it. I'll have a chat with my carpenter friend and see what price id be looking at for his help. As you have done a boat load on speakers, what material would you build the cabs out of?Depends. If cost isn't an issue, I'd favour birch ply, but there's not much wrong with MDF or HDF, some even swear by good old chipboard. At least with decent birch ply, you can just stain/lacquer it to get a nice appearance. Chipboard has to be veneered or laminated, but that give good constrained layer benefits. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 12, 2019 22:27:04 GMT
Couldn’t you just stick them on an open baffle?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 22:28:31 GMT
Couldn’t you just stick them on an open baffle? No Bass! |
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