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OK I'll take £800 for the stands I was going to give to you 

🤣🤣🤣 I have other options Al, thanks though.

@cageyh

I don't think I'll be dropping another £500 on feet for average stands.

I'll have a look about at what's available....I may even get some made IF I stick with these that is far from a foregone conclusion.

Given that I haven't managed to get any vinyl through them yet....I will not be committed to anything prior to a good vinyl session.

I do realise the stands are almost the price of the speakers, however the only other pair of speaker stands I have are the much vaulted mad cap 70Kg Eiffel tower style units for the mid 90's for the life of my I can't remember their bloody name, I did mention it to Oli this morning.

Will put a image up tomorrow, hate it when that happens!!!!

That said I am sure Oli's legendary ability to turn rocks in replicators will help here.

I would suggest that with any stand mount speaker regardless of cost the best stand you can stump for with pay dividends without question

Hell no! 🤣

£1500 is about my budget by about £1700, but Tony says they are obsolete and not for sale, and I will respectfully accept his decision without argument 😂

I have retired, Brian. Im Not going to continue to "chase the sonic dragon" anymore.

I am very satisfied with my selection of audio components and once I am convinced over the best speaker route and added a R2R DAC, that will be me done.... seriously this time.

I have told the wife that my focus will then shift to paying off the mortgage early and trying to further improve our quality of life.

I've had 5 years of playing with HiFi...time to put back into the house for a bit.

Of course, they have to be the right height but I've had less "lively" sounding gear in hear and it's boomed like Sh#t. These speakers are really well controlled on the stands they are on. I wouldn't like to venture to far away from their principles.

I've also got a 10" sub in here and at the minute it's bloody impressive with very little by way of boom.

Just the odd note escapes the control...which is probably unavoidable in all honesty and varies recording to recording.

Well these German badboys are super well made. The finish on them is superb and so is the sound.

This may sound strange but I learned a lot today both about my room, the equipment and how to tweak bits from watching Tony at work.

I will happily admit that I was stumped as to how to get my system running in this shoe box of a room, but Tony said he could get a good sound in there and he was right.

Sometimes you have to accept you don't know what you don't know, and call a professional in.

Due to the lack of symmetry in my room, my imaging has always leaned to the left slightly....not anymore. That's been fixed too and that's not down to the speakers, it's the knowledge of knowing how and where to position the speakers in the room.

The system now takes on a far more controlled sound, more precise and especially spacious feel. The speakers are effortlessly pressuring the room and the sub...well I keep checking to see if it's on because it's so subtle that until I switch it off, I don't know it's there.

I would never have accepted a Sub as a legitimate answer to my issues but again, you live and learn

Also, on particularly Sh#t mastered material, I flick the sub off and that LF boom that occasionally occurs, disappeared.

Having some flexibility is very novel....and welcome

We like to experiment and work out way through things and most of us learn by trial and error

I knew there were a few frequencies that were getting particularly excited but couldn't think how one may nullify their effect when my mind was fixed on a standard 2 speaker arrangement.

As you say, experience played a huge part here and when you do this stuff every day, you are going to learn at a faster rate than us Forumites, especially as some people keep one set of speakers for 30 years at a time, or keep the same amps etc....

It's enlightening to experience it.

I'd lost my mojo a bit a few days ago, it's coming back

I remembered the name of those nutball stands Elementals

The stands which Oli has are track audio Precision 600 the 600 being the optimum height in mm

Track Audio Stands

Track could start production in again in the new year

Some pics:

Wish I could hear that system now Oli, I bet its an interesting prospect in your room?

I do too matey. I usually look for 2nd and 3rd opinions on things and this lockdown has come at the wrong time for me to do this.

I need to get some vinyl flowing through it all and see what happens.

What is so special about the stands? Surely it needs to be rigid, heavy and be able to be fitted with a decent set of feet?
My Cyrus CLS70 have the dedicated stands, but I never tried better feet on them.

I will kick myself if a new set of feet could have avoided me buying two different sets of speakers!

I have the ones without the central pillar. Need to explore more substantial supports. However with my isolation mods, they are really improving the Harbeths. Especially since I screwed the aluminium bases into the floorboards!