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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 8, 2019 18:33:53 GMT
It was getting to be a 50/50 ratio of posts we could leave. Even then, some were marginal. The first time he called someone a wanker yesterday it was reported and I left it because at that stage it could’ve been ribaldry, a few further insults followed before he was challenged. He replied to the effect:
“Liar or wanker, the choice is yours”.
That resulted in a warning. One post later he was banned.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 8, 2019 18:44:54 GMT
jammy's characteristics/style has always been the same as ever. Even going back many years to his HFS days. S. It can be an endearing style but it often walks a tightrope. I often wonder if it’s a persona similar to an actor or even a stand up comic. He kinda runs out of material and has to push the envelope. I’d seen enough evidence from previous similar events elsewhere to see a pattern of descent into belligerence. It’s a real pity and I genuinely tried to talk him round and buy him extra lives. At the end of the day though, I’m not responsible for his actions and neither are those he attacked. Only he is. I hope he finds an outlet that works for him and I wish him peace. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 19:02:16 GMT
Shame indeed! Was looking forward to hearing his findings on his Radford Revival amp.
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Post by dsjr on Mar 8, 2019 19:52:11 GMT
He'll love it and for all the warm nostalgic and sincere reasons he gave us/me months ago. A classic design and a future collectors item just as much as the originals are.
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Post by macca on Mar 8, 2019 20:47:31 GMT
He'll love it and for all the warm nostalgic and sincere reasons he gave us/me months ago. A classic design and a future collectors item just as much as the originals are. You want to get another listen to a Radford, Dave. They have a 'modern' sound. The only reason I haven't got one is that the Krell I got off you does pretty much the same thing without the valve hassle. They're not some warm cuddly radiogram sounding things at all or I wouldn't even consider it. Yours's must have been in need of a bit of work. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 8, 2019 20:51:34 GMT
Shame indeed! Was looking forward to hearing his findings on his Radford Revival amp. S. Me too. I hope he gets a lot of pleasure from it. He will always be a bit of a forum legend. He’s ended up spinning out of some forums but that doesn’t detract from the irreverent humour, Good heartedness, kindness and generosity he’s shown over his time on hifi forums. Today and yesterday it was about the downside, but he will be remembered far more for the upside. |
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Post by macca on Mar 8, 2019 20:57:01 GMT
Maybe he'll start his own forum.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 8, 2019 21:03:59 GMT
He really should. It wouldn’t even need to be hifi specific. Imagine seeing a forum called Jammyland. I bet you’d visit and follow it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 21:36:41 GMT
Jammy appeared intent on getting himself banned. Personally, i wish him all the best and hope he thoroughly enjoys his Radford Revival Amp. I know i would!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 21:37:33 GMT
Maybe he'll start his own forum. He said he'd be the only member  |
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Post by macca on Mar 8, 2019 22:19:05 GMT
He really should. It wouldn’t even need to be hifi specific. Imagine seeing a forum called Jammyland. I bet you’d visit and follow it. 'Jammyland' - yeah that's genius. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 23:42:40 GMT
He really should. It wouldn’t even need to be hifi specific. Imagine seeing a forum called Jammyland. I bet you’d visit and follow it. 'Jammyland' - yeah that's genius. We should have had Jammy as an administrator. He'd have banned us all and then had his own forum to himself! Jammy's posts may have been a bit bonkers, but I had nothing against him apart from his digs at Dave. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 9, 2019 0:21:07 GMT
Maybe he'll start his own forum. He said he'd be the only member |
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Post by antonio on Mar 9, 2019 7:09:20 GMT
Surely if Jammy's naughty posts are ignored by the offended members (I would just give it back to him) and Westie or Biggy delete them, everything's whiter than white and we are still able to enjoy Jammy's posts and get his report on the Radford. Peace to everyone.  |
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Post by pauld on Mar 9, 2019 8:14:18 GMT
I have always liked Jammy, but once he has had a few he seems to go of the rails somewhat, therefore, I don't agree with that approach at all Antonio. He is banned and should remain banned, because he couldn't behave in a way expected by the Admins.
Everyone should remember, it is their forum, nobody has a right to be here, we are invited here by the Admins. If we then overstep the mark, they'll give us a chance (and Jammy appears to have had many) and if then they will have no choice but to ban us if we continually misbehave. It really is that simple.
Personally, I like the way in which this relatively young forum is run, so let's enjoy what we have.
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Post by savvypaul on Mar 9, 2019 8:17:26 GMT
Surely if Jammy's naughty posts are ignored by the offended members (I would just give it back to him) and Westie or Biggy delete them, everything's whiter than white and we are still able to enjoy Jammy's posts and get his report on the Radford. Peace to everyone. Yeah...but, no. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 9, 2019 8:21:07 GMT
Surely if Jammy's naughty posts are ignored by the offended members (I would just give it back to him) and Westie or Biggy delete them, everything's whiter than white and we are still able to enjoy Jammy's posts and get his report on the Radford. Peace to everyone. So in effect we’ve set a rule of “don’t Sh#t on the carpets and bite the family.” Puppy Jammy knows it’s wrong but he craps everywhere and bites folk because he feels he has a right to. Oliver and I come round with the poop scoop and sanitising liquid every few minutes. The family members just put on gloves and steel toed boots to protect them from any bites. Yeah that’s gonna fly. What do ya say, Oliver? Should we let the puppy back in? No forum can set rules for everyone to follow, then let a member just do what they want and ask those affected to take steps to ensure the offender can carry on. Sorry but it will never happen here. He’s gone and he won’t be back. He was banned and reinstated after a tirade. It was unprovoked, nasty and had no basis in facts, but we let him back because we know he can be prone to the odd outburst and he’d had a recent loss. He apologised and promised to behave, but he carried on being offensive and was asked again to stop. We even asked folk who know him to have a word.He only got worse and would’ve carried on that way, It wasn’t the usual Jammy irreverence, it was getting increasingly nasty and every post was becoming a search for an argument. It’s the exact same pattern that played out elsewhere, so I did what I needed to do and I won’t reverse it. If anyone behaves in a way that makes myself or Oliver certain they won’t be good for the forum, then they will be banned and they won’t be let back. |
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Post by savvypaul on Mar 9, 2019 8:29:30 GMT
Surely if Jammy's naughty posts are ignored by the offended members (I would just give it back to him) and Westie or Biggy delete them, everything's whiter than white and we are still able to enjoy Jammy's posts and get his report on the Radford. Peace to everyone. So in effect we’ve set a rule of “don’t Sh#t on the carpets and bite the family.” Puppy Jammy knows it’s wrong but he craps everywhere because he feels he has a right to. Oliver and I come round with the poop scoop and sanitising liquid every few minutes. The family members just put on gloves and steel toed boots to protect them from any bites. Yeah that’s gonna fly. What do ya say, Oliver? Should we let the puppy back in? No forum can set rules for everyone to follow, then let a member just do what they want and ask those affected to take steps to ensure the offender can carry on. Sorry but it will never happen here. He’s gone and he won’t be back. He was banned and reinstated after a tirade. It was unprovoked, nasty and had no basis in facts, but we let him back because we know he can be prone to the odd outburst and he’d had a recent loss. He apologised and promised to behave, but he carried on being offensive and was asked again to stop. We even asked folk who know him to have a word.He only got worse and would’ve carried on that way, It wasn’t the usual Jammy irreverence, it was getting increasingly nasty and every post was becoming a search for an argument. It’s the exact same pattern that played out elsewhere, so I did what I needed to do and I won’t reverse it. If anyone behaves in a way that makes myself or Oliver certain they won’t be good for the forum, then they will be banned and they won’t be let back. Nailed it. There was nothing else to be done. Jammy chose his own fate despite multiple opportunities to make the changes needed to stay within the rules. Antonio is just expressing a bit of whimsy for Jammys more endearing moments. He hasn't thought it through. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 9, 2019 8:36:49 GMT
The sad thing is that I feel the same nostalgia for his character and his posts. If he can stay within the rules, he’s good to have around and has a real, likeable side. Unfortunately the evidence says he can’t. For some reason there seems to be a timer ticking down on an in-built self-destruct mechanism. The only choice I feel I I had was to remove the human dirty bomb or keep it here and let it affect the forum.
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Post by savvypaul on Mar 9, 2019 8:45:44 GMT
Posting in a 'characterful' style is all about knowing your audience. If you think you're being wonderfully clever and funny but your 'targets' think you're being genuinely nasty and hurtful then you modify your behaviour accordingly. Unless you mean to be genuinely nasty and hurtful...in which case you deserve to get banned, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 9:50:55 GMT
The simple rule is, don't get into an argument with the forum admin/mods. There's only going to be one winner (clue: it won't be you).
One forum owner summed up the forum's AUP in a single phrase: 'Don't be a twat'.
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Post by dsjr on Mar 9, 2019 10:02:02 GMT
He'll love it and for all the warm nostalgic and sincere reasons he gave us/me months ago. A classic design and a future collectors item just as much as the originals are. You want to get another listen to a Radford, Dave. They have a 'modern' sound. The only reason I haven't got one is that the Krell I got off you does pretty much the same thing without the valve hassle. They're not some warm cuddly radiogram sounding things at all or I wouldn't even consider it. Yours's must have been in need of a bit of work. I know, mine sounded just like a Naim 'CB' 160 (OK, it needed a service) and I moved on with no regrets at the time. No ready service backup in 1980 sadly and no internet either.
I do respect these new Radford Realisations, but it's an expensive niche nostalgia trip really in my book and I honestly mean no harm by saying that, as there are many people able to enjoy such equipment with no financial issues. I can't let visuals get in the way of actual performance - my nearly-as-old D-150 doesn't have a front panel and 'looks' totally the opposite to a lovely shiny Radford with gently glowing EL34's run well within their tolerances (my Tube tech genesis monos had a quad of them at 100W output and they were knackered after a year), so I have my mouth where my tiny wallet is 
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Post by macca on Mar 9, 2019 10:10:09 GMT
No I still don't get where you are coming from with the Nostalgia thing. And they are not expensive, £2.5K for one of the best valve power amps available in a world where £1000 is needed to buy the very ordinary entry level SS integrated in most manufacturer's ranges is a bargain IMV.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 9, 2019 10:21:35 GMT
I’d love for a few folk including Dave to have a shared listening session and see if they still took away different viewpoints, I have never seen or heard one so I have no idea what I’d make of it,
I do think the price is very good for such a small build amp with decent power and huge attention to detail.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 9, 2019 10:33:30 GMT
Surely if Jammy's naughty posts are ignored by the offended members (I would just give it back to him) and Westie or Biggy delete them, everything's whiter than white and we are still able to enjoy Jammy's posts and get his report on the Radford. Peace to everyone. I do admire your speaking up for someone though, Antonio. I’ve done it myself: sometimes glad I did and others I wish I hadn’t lol  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 13:10:25 GMT
No I still don't get where you are coming from with the Nostalgia thing. And they are not expensive, £2.5K for one of the best valve power amps available in a world where £1000 is needed to buy the very ordinary entry level SS integrated in most manufacturer's ranges is a bargain IMV. I never have a comment or opinion on anything I have not heard, and even then I am reticent to comment if I have not heard it on my own system, using that as a point of reference. 2.5k is an awful lot of money here, still I would love to hear one, the chances are very slim to say the least. There is a bloke selling his Line Magnetic 518a for 1800 quid (slightly dinged), 3,200 quid new here at the moment, not having anything near that amount of money to spend, a comparison would be interesting. I did my best to calm Jammy down all to no avail, when he gets on a roll, he is like a Pit Bull chewing on a bare bone, getting off on his bleeding gums. When that Scot gets the bone between his teeth there is no stopping him. That is something I admire "tenacity", but it has it's place. |
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Post by dsjr on Mar 9, 2019 13:27:35 GMT
No I still don't get where you are coming from with the Nostalgia thing. And they are not expensive, £2.5K for one of the best valve power amps available in a world where £1000 is needed to buy the very ordinary entry level SS integrated in most manufacturer's ranges is a bargain IMV. You're way out macca I think and with respect. Entry level high quality solid state amps start at a very few hundred and in addition to the £300 NVA pair which I still rate for charming domestic musical reproduction, what about mainstream stuff from Onkyo (really smart little integrated for £229 or so), Cambridge, Arcam and Rotel if they're still around, Yamaha too if specs and visuals matter and of course the Rega Brio R I used to be accused of shilling?
We live in a tiny niche in a tiny niche here. A grand or more for an 'integrated' is quite a lot of money these days unless it's made in tiny batches. £2500 is a hell of a lot of money for a mere power amp, but I accept that amps like this are hand built in miniscule batches (a set of four is miniscule really). I'm not suggesting these shouldn't be made ffs, as there are many higher income audio enthusiasts who love things like this, but to dismiss a Chinese made little integrated made on a line very inexpensively and probably as good if heard blind? can't agree with you, sorry.
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Post by antonio on Mar 9, 2019 13:53:19 GMT
Surely if Jammy's naughty posts are ignored by the offended members (I would just give it back to him) and Westie or Biggy delete them, everything's whiter than white and we are still able to enjoy Jammy's posts and get his report on the Radford. Peace to everyone. Yeah...but, no. Just a light hearted post Savvy. |
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Post by macca on Mar 9, 2019 15:03:05 GMT
No I still don't get where you are coming from with the Nostalgia thing. And they are not expensive, £2.5K for one of the best valve power amps available in a world where £1000 is needed to buy the very ordinary entry level SS integrated in most manufacturer's ranges is a bargain IMV. You're way out macca I think and with respect. Entry level high quality solid state amps start at a very few hundred and in addition to the £300 NVA pair which I still rate for charming domestic musical reproduction, what about mainstream stuff from Onkyo (really smart little integrated for £229 or so), Cambridge, Arcam and Rotel if they're still around, Yamaha too if specs and visuals matter and of course the Rega Brio R I used to be accused of shilling?
We obviously have a different definition of 'High Quality'. Something like a Rega Brio is competent, not saying it isn't. But is not in the same league as a Radford. Whether it is worth paying the extra to have the Radford is up to the individual but let's not kid ourselves that they all sound the same and it doesn't matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 15:53:26 GMT
I have to say that discussing non members of the forum isn't really cricket but there is a lot of love for Jammy, so i think it's ok up to this point that hes still been mentioned.
We were literally following him round like a toddler, shitting everywhere. Usually, his posts were humorous and i enjoyed reading them. Unfortunately they became vicious and completely unsubstantiated. He was booted once and given a reprieve. In the end, Andrew and i were following him round and having to repair every thread he touched. This went on for a few days.
Lemos, you weren't the only one to try and calm him down but for whatever reason, he decided to drop his arse everywhere and he had to go.
Westie and i want to enjoy the forum and take part. 90% of the time, we have very little "admin" to do and that's how i want it. If someone is constantly playing up, they get 1 chance, then if the behaviour doesn't improve, they are out, no warnings, no returns.
This forum has the potential to bridge gaps and provide a platform for people, who are normally separated by the forum politics bullshit, to converse and co-exist in one place. The premise is simple. Join, join in and be respectful to others. If you can do that, you can be a successful contributor to the forum.
EVERYONE benefits from this.
Now, one last thing:
Rules are that we don't discuss members of other forums, so in fairness to Jammy, who has no right of reply, lets move on.
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