Shilling

Fact is you can't go around calling people dishonest without hard evidence. 'It looks like it might be a bit dodgy' is not good enough. Don't kid yourself that this happens in order to protect the consumer or anything like that. It's done to discredit the competition and also because it makes the accusers feel like big men.

I agree but my point being that if I did (and I haven't and nor do I feel the need) bring it up the assumption I have an agenda would be incorrect. My mistake would potentially be not having evidence, it would not be having an agenda....

YUP......DONT FORGET IF IT AINT YER BALL, YOU AINT GONNA KICK IT.....!!!!

Well you might, but not half as hard as the C%%%%%%% that own it.

On a forum?

Okay let's say you see someone posting about a particular product/brand a lot, and sometimes on threads where it is irrelevant. You decide it is suspect and want some action taken, you report it to a moderator. They'll take a look at the posts and decide if there is a prima face case to answer. Then they'll contact the bloke and say 'You're posting about this a lot do you have some connection with the dealer/manufacturer?

This will only result in 3 possible answers:

1) Yes I am connected he's  a mate/I work for him/ etc  - in which case you tell them they can pay for a trade account and be identified as trade  or pack it in.

2) I have no connection at all except as a happy customer but you're right I have been posting about it a bit much I will knock it off - in which case you forget it (as long as they do reign it in).

3) Angry response (make up your own they are all different) - in which case they are certainly guilty as sin so you ban them. 

What you don't do is just start fling around accusations of dishonesty on the open forum. That's out of order in my book. 

Although on this site I understand a little bit of promotion is fine so long as you're not boring anyone to death with it or clogging up the forum with advertorial.

Not at all patronising. It’s harder to give recognition to someone else’s point than ignore it and try to score points back. FWIW I agree and I like Macca’s sentence about boring everyone to death and clogging up the forum, so I will add it to the rules

That’s the last we will be seeing or hearing of Jammy. More chances to get his act together than Theresa May. Enough is enough, He won’t be back

I wish you were right Shane but he’s used up all his lifelines. He was given chances and spurned them. When you start calling folk liars without justification (on top of the other insults) there’s no way back, otherwise what do you say to the members who were insulted and did nothing to deserve it or even fire back? There are only a handful of rules but persistently attacking members is one it should be obvious not to break.

I'll somewhat miss jammy. When he's around on the forums it's like adding a bit of fun distortion. But things do start to grate quickly for most people.

S.

There's Jammy sober on the rigs and Jammy at home when he's enjoying himself with a drop of the hard stuff but he has a pop at everyone , he doesn't discriminate. I mean sometimes you just have to make allowances. Don't know who's been complaining about him but it's a pretty poor show, couldn't they just put him on ignore?

I didn't feel the need to report any of his posts but he had plenty of warnings and plenty of chances to reign it in.

By your description, every hifi forum in the land must be a bad show, cause he's banned from all of them afaik.

Will you be inviting him to join AOS and then telling everyone to just ignore him when he kicks off?

I had and still have a huge soft spot for him, I think he’s a decent guy with great humour and character. I’d have loved to keep him here but I have a responsibility to other members and also have to look at the best interests of the forum.

When omeone is set on picking a fight and won’t heed multiple warnings, they don’t leave you any realistic choice.

I also want to add that I don’t like or have any respect for the notion that those who took offence are to blame. The cause is the offender, not the victims.

jammy's characteristics/style has always been the same as ever. Even going back many years to his HFS days.

S.