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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 24, 2019 13:39:00 GMT
Whoever gets it, the Tories are doomed. No deal will be voted down or the government will fall, either way a general election will follow. Farage will bleed off 40% of Tory votes and Corbyn will have a 100 seat majority...which should wind up the backward thinking, small minded, bigoted right wing wankers very nicely. I suspect Farage will bleed off labour votes and seats too. I’d also bet Boris thinks that: A. His personal popularity will allow him to increase his seats and get a vote through. B. He can trust Farage and get a deal done. C. He can avoid making a serious blunder and avoid having the election he called spiral out of his control. Im banking on him being his usual bumbling self, making a massive gaffe whilst being shafted by Farage and back-stabbed by Gove. For me, Corbyn is a price worth paying to get shot of Brexit. It might be a long shot but I’m still not convinced there’s a way through this without another people’s vote. Unless Boris calls an election and does well. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 24, 2019 15:13:57 GMT
Say anything I want? Here’s a prediction. Boris Johnson to have the shortest tenure of any Conservative Party leader. I might even see if I can get odds on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 15:52:09 GMT
In the Telegraph the other day Charles Moore, one of their columnists, was musing over whether Boris Johnson's rackety private life unsuited him to be PM. Moore suggested that the example of Lloyd George, who led Britain to victory in WWI, and who was also a randy get, proved otherwise. He either forgot, or failed to mention, that post-WWI, the Liberal party imploded.
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Post by macca on Jun 24, 2019 15:52:14 GMT
Say anything I want? Here’s a prediction. Boris Johnson to have the shortest tenure of any Conservative Party leader. I might even see if I can get odds on it. It's possible. Whose the previous shortest and how long did they last?
I can't see him calling an election though. And it is no longer the PM's choice is it? Doesn't 2 thirds of the House have to approve it now?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 16:04:23 GMT
Say anything I want? Here’s a prediction. Boris Johnson to have the shortest tenure of any Conservative Party leader. I might even see if I can get odds on it. It's possible. Whose the previous shortest and how long did they last?
I can't see him calling an election though. And it is no longer the PM's choice is it? Doesn't 2 thirds of the House have to approve it now?
Alec Douglas-Home in (my) living memory (less than two years in office). More recently, Iain Duncan Smith and Michael Howard managed just over two years each. As for Boris calling an election, I guess he could get two-thirds of the House backing it; the main opposition parties would probably not want to be seen avoiding an election. The Tories would be split, but the ERG lot might go for a pact with Farage's Brexit Party and hope to get an overall majority, with the Brexit Party beating Labour in 'leave' constituencies where the Tories would have no chance. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 24, 2019 16:18:16 GMT
Say anything I want? Here’s a prediction. Boris Johnson to have the shortest tenure of any Conservative Party leader. I might even see if I can get odds on it. It's possible. Whose the previous shortest and how long did they last?
I can't see him calling an election though. And it is no longer the PM's choice is it? Doesn't 2 thirds of the House have to approve it now?
Memory tells me it was Andrew Bonar Law. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 16:24:45 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 24, 2019 16:29:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 16:49:35 GMT
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Post by macca on Jun 24, 2019 16:53:19 GMT
It's possible. Whose the previous shortest and how long did they last?
I can't see him calling an election though. And it is no longer the PM's choice is it? Doesn't 2 thirds of the House have to approve it now?
Alec Douglas-Home in (my) living memory (less than two years in office). More recently, Iain Duncan Smith and Michael Howard managed just over two years each. As for Boris calling an election, I guess he could get two-thirds of the House backing it; the main opposition parties would probably not want to be seen avoiding an election. The Tories would be split, but the ERG lot might go for a pact with Farage's Brexit Party and hope to get an overall majority, with the Brexit Party beating Labour in 'leave' constituencies where the Tories would have no chance. Brexit party will get a lot of votes but I doubt they'll get any MPs because of the way the system works. So I can't see any sort of Parliamentary Con/Brexit coalition happening. I suppose he could do a deal so they don't stand against each other in the marginals. That could work. ATM Labour party policy is to honour the result of the referendum in some form or another isn't it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 17:03:45 GMT
Alec Douglas-Home in (my) living memory (less than two years in office). More recently, Iain Duncan Smith and Michael Howard managed just over two years each. As for Boris calling an election, I guess he could get two-thirds of the House backing it; the main opposition parties would probably not want to be seen avoiding an election. The Tories would be split, but the ERG lot might go for a pact with Farage's Brexit Party and hope to get an overall majority, with the Brexit Party beating Labour in 'leave' constituencies where the Tories would have no chance. Brexit party will get a lot of votes but I doubt they'll get any MPs because of the way the system works. So I can't see any sort of Parliamentary Con/Brexit coalition happening. I suppose he could do a deal so they don't stand against each other in the marginals. That could work. ATM Labour party policy is to honour the result of the referendum in some form or another isn't it? Labour policy seems to be to stick their finger in their ears and go 'la-la-la'. They don't know what they want, really. |
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Post by antonio on Jun 25, 2019 5:13:10 GMT
The people of this country voted to leave, deal or no deal was never mentioned. Can someone please tell me why any deals have to be passed by Parliament?
I will never vote again after this complete and utter cock up, we must be the laughing stock of Europe.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 23:02:17 GMT
Well, hello July!
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Post by Bigman80 on Jul 1, 2019 7:25:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 16:18:44 GMT
I see Boris has now won the Tory leadership race. Once he becomes Prime Minister, we'll have our own Trump 'mini me'. If it wasn't so tragic, it would be hillarious! What will the rest of the World be thinking of us? It's a major embarrassment!!
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Post by macca on Jul 23, 2019 17:14:10 GMT
Boris has a 2-1 in a proper subject from Balliol, he may be many things but he's not an idiot. Whereas Trump is many things and an idiot. Although I'm warming to Trump even if it's just for the entertainment value.
One of my cousins (who used to edit the Telegraph and Daily Telegraph) knows him well and confirms he his as sharp as a tack. Whether that will translate in him leading England into the sunlit uplands I don't know. I'd have to say probably not. But we'll see.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 19:54:56 GMT
One of my cousins (who used to edit the Telegraph and Daily Telegraph) What's the difference between the Telegraph and the Daily Telegraph? |
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Post by macca on Jul 23, 2019 20:07:19 GMT
Oh yeah, that should be the Sunday Telegraph. Anyway she knows the bloke.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 5:34:50 GMT
Had me first tommy tank for over a week  |
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Post by antonio on Aug 2, 2019 9:57:07 GMT
I still need 3 a day.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 7:42:32 GMT
No breakfast today............No breakfast any day, I never eat before lunchtime!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 19:19:50 GMT
As of yesterday, I'm a Doctor. (Not that sort of doctor, I'm afraid, so put that away, it's disgusting). A Doctor of Philosophy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 19:34:41 GMT
As of yesterday, I'm a Doctor. (Not that sort of doctor, I'm afraid, so put that away, it's disgusting). A Doctor of Philosophy. Congratulations! |
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Post by antonio on Aug 7, 2019 4:56:15 GMT
Well done dvh. Did you do this as a correspondence course or did you go to college.  Sorry but got to ask, 'What's the Meaning of Life'?  |
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Post by macca on Aug 7, 2019 7:41:25 GMT
As of yesterday, I'm a Doctor. (Not that sort of doctor, I'm afraid, so put that away, it's disgusting). A Doctor of Philosophy. Congratulations (and celebrations). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 14:17:34 GMT
sore nutsack
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 22:56:52 GMT
Due for a holiday soon. I'll be staying at this little gaff, in one of the most beautiful and isolated corners of Cornwall.  It's my brother's place. Makes a change from going in the other direction to my seaside home in Kent. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 23:17:11 GMT
Geoff.....GO TO BED!! S. |
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Post by antonio on Aug 12, 2019 5:27:01 GMT
Looks a grand place, and you'll be ok for an early morning dip in his pool.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 14:20:51 GMT
wow amazing first thing that springs to my mind right now is 400 quid  |
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