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Post by macca on Jun 14, 2019 17:45:26 GMT
Excellent spot Roy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 17:49:31 GMT
Well we'd all like a 'big nob' Martin (maybe not a 'bog nob', that sounds like it might need some kind of anti biotic paste)
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Post by macca on Jun 14, 2019 19:15:46 GMT
Seems like it does have a phono stage after all. I sold mine to a mate when it went faulty and he got it fixed and it did sound great in his system. But he got burgled. And this is back in the day when they nicked hi-fi instead of puzzling over it for a minute and then going for your hoover. Could be the same one making its way back to me.
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Post by macca on Jun 18, 2019 16:59:50 GMT
The Denon PMA250UKSE arrives. Typically it's faulty, no control of volume, it's full on all the time. Will have to investigate at the weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2019 19:52:06 GMT
The Denon PMA250UKSE arrives. Typically it's faulty, no control of volume, it's full on all the time. Will have to investigate at the weekend. “They all do that mister”.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 5:26:32 GMT
Send it back.
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Post by macca on Jun 19, 2019 6:16:28 GMT
Nah I can get it fixed, it might just be a wire has come loose.
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Post by macca on Jun 22, 2019 11:27:54 GMT
 Geoff kindly sent me one of these little things to try (although this one is unbranded unlike the one in the pic) and I've just got round to plugging it in. Early days yet and I'm not going to pass a final verdict until I've run the gamut of my testing but I've got it playing The Cult 'Love' right now and this thing is good! Okay so you have to account for the fact that it is tiny and costs so little that it is practically free and so expectations are not going to be as high as if I was trying out a five grand pre-power combo. But even so! Something quite odd about seeing large speakers being driven by an amp the size of a Sony Walkman (although the power supply is a separate unit about the same size again) but it works and it works well. Instant criticisms: it is slightly soft-sounding and the gain appears to be set way too high, presumably to give the impression of more power. Barely need to move the volume knob off of zero to get adequate levels. But yeah, I'm impressed. |
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Post by macca on Jun 22, 2019 11:39:24 GMT
At just over 40 quid for amp and power supply this is a nonsense. assuming I'd bought it instead of having it on loan the total cost of the system I'm currently listening to is £515 quid. £560 if I add the cost of interconnect and speaker cables. (Can't use my Spotfire speaker cables on this thing as they are too large to hook up to it) And I'm having to try hard to find fault with it! Oh dear.
Doesn't quite have the 'hear-through into the studio' ability of the Krell-DCB1 combo, or the bass wallop and texture. But the bass is good all the same and you'd think that would be the area it would lack in.
Still using the Klotz MC500 interconnect from the previous XTZ lash-up, might swap back to the Spotfire in a bit and see if that gets rid of that little bit of 'softness'.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 12:49:31 GMT
Mine actually cost me just under £25 including power supply. I'm using one all the time at the moment and can't say it leaves me feeling hard done by in any way.
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Post by macca on Jun 22, 2019 13:48:21 GMT
From a pure 'listening pleasure' POV I actually prefer it to the XTZ and that would be at least a grand if they still made them. Although you do get a DAC in that too.
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 22, 2019 15:51:13 GMT
Mine cost under £17 as I already had a few laptop supplies. I rate it higher than the Claymore although the latter does have a headphone jack and a phono stage.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 17:05:36 GMT
Mine cost under £17 as I already had a few laptop supplies. I rate it higher than the Claymore although the latter does have a headphone jack and a phono stage. You have got to be seriously joking, right? S. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jun 22, 2019 17:12:47 GMT
Mine cost under £17 as I already had a few laptop supplies. I rate it higher than the Claymore although the latter does have a headphone jack and a phono stage. You have got to be seriously joking, right? S. Nope, seen it off comfortably. As a line level amp, that is. And that from someone who previously hated class D |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 17:19:30 GMT
You have got to be seriously joking, right? S. Nope, seen it off comfortably. As a line level amp, that is. And that from someone who previously hated class D I sold my Quad 707 because the TPA3116 embarrassed it. (still got the 306's though  ) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 17:20:46 GMT
Must try one someday. My only concern is that my Dali Spektor 1 are like 83dB and my room is semi medium size.
I'll always have a little soft spot for high quality classic class AB amps.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 17:22:19 GMT
Nope, seen it off comfortably. As a line level amp, that is. And that from someone who previously hated class D I sold my Quad 707 because the TPA3116 embarrassed it. (still got the 306's though ) Someone needs to put you in a nursing home  S. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 18:19:47 GMT
I sold my Quad 707 because the TPA3116 embarrassed it. (still got the 306's though ) Someone needs to put you in a nursing home S. As long as the nurses are saucy, I won't mind! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 18:33:42 GMT
Someone needs to put you in a nursing home S. As long as the nurses are saucy, I won't mind! Stick with your own looks match! Dirty ole bugger S. |
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Post by macca on Jul 4, 2019 12:32:48 GMT
I'm advised some replacement parts for the Krell turned up yesterday. Hopefully not long now. |
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Post by macca on Jul 4, 2019 12:33:32 GMT
need to chase up that Tannoy build too. Been 8 months now.
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Post by macca on Jul 4, 2019 17:30:42 GMT
Thought I would put in a Spotfire interconnect twixt cd player and the little chip amp, replacing the Klotz MC2000.
Better bass definition. Crisper. It's subtle but it's there. And the whole sound is just easier to listen to. A slight edginess has gone. Regular readers will recall I preferred the Klotz interconnect when using the XTZ amplifier. Weird how that goes with cables but I've had it happen many times over the years. It's always horses for courses with interconnects and speaker cable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 23:08:49 GMT
Thought I would put in a Spotfire interconnect twixt cd player and the little chip amp, replacing the Klotz MC2000. Better bass definition. Crisper. It's subtle but it's there. And the whole sound is just easier to listen to. A slight edginess has gone. Regular readers will recall I preferred the Klotz interconnect when using the XTZ amplifier. Weird how that goes with cables but I've had it happen many times over the years. It's always horses for courses with interconnects and speaker cable. Ive never preferred the Klotz over Spotfire with any combo but fair enough, at least there's a difference you can hear. Hopefully, when the Krell goes back in, the difference between the two will be blatant. Glad to hear the Krell is on the way to being mended btw, that should be a relief! And yes, goddam it seems like I've been waiting yonks to loan your jmlabs. Crack the whip!!! |
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Post by macca on Jul 5, 2019 7:39:35 GMT
Thought I would put in a Spotfire interconnect twixt cd player and the little chip amp, replacing the Klotz MC2000. Better bass definition. Crisper. It's subtle but it's there. And the whole sound is just easier to listen to. A slight edginess has gone. Regular readers will recall I preferred the Klotz interconnect when using the XTZ amplifier. Weird how that goes with cables but I've had it happen many times over the years. It's always horses for courses with interconnects and speaker cable. Ive never preferred the Klotz over Spotfire with any combo but fair enough, at least there's a difference you can hear. Well I am over fifty and approaching the 'Speak up, sonny!' area at a rate of knots |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 8:46:47 GMT
Ive never preferred the Klotz over Spotfire with any combo but fair enough, at least there's a difference you can hear. Well I am over fifty and approaching the 'Speak up, sonny!' area at a rate of knots Lmao, considering how sceptical you were, in just glad you hear a difference. I can't stand all the "cables don't matter" talk. I just don't know how people can't hear it lol |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 9:02:21 GMT
Well I am over fifty and approaching the 'Speak up, sonny!' area at a rate of knots Lmao, considering how sceptical you were, in just glad you hear a difference. I can't stand all the "cables don't matter" talk. I just don't know how people can't hear it lolThey make a point of not hearing it. The other side of the coin is 'hearing' benefits from expensive mains cables. People can fool themselves into believing anything, just ask any one of the growing number who really think the Earth is flat! |
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Post by dsjr on Jul 5, 2019 9:16:09 GMT
Maybe they've done blind comparisons, thereby bypassing the other senses from the equation. Differences (audible) in well constructed cables are so small to non existent I really think and the room-speaker interface is the most important thing. Personal taste in top end audio over-rules it all I believe...
I've tried a Mogami mic cable Linn use, Klotz MC5000, RS mic cable, a retro looking Sommer mic cable (i have soft spot for the looks of this, so I like the 'sound), two or three belden types which just 'might' sound a bit climical when used sighted, Mark Grant, which I 'thought' sounded different in an AB comparison with MC5000, but doing the same test on the same gear six months on, they both sounded the same...
For me today, cables are a non-issue...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 10:26:05 GMT
Maybe they've done blind comparisons, thereby bypassing the other senses from the equation. Differences (audible) in well constructed cables are so small to non existent I really think and the room-speaker interface is the most important thing. Personal taste in top end audio over-rules it all I believe... I've tried a Mogami mic cable Linn use, Klotz MC5000, RS mic cable, a retro looking Sommer mic cable (i have soft spot for the looks of this, so I like the 'sound), two or three belden types which just 'might' sound a bit climical when used sighted, Mark Grant, which I 'thought' sounded different in an AB comparison with MC5000, but doing the same test on the same gear six months on, they both sounded the same... For me today, cables are a non-issue... I blind tested Macca, he didn't even know I was doing it and he straight away picked up that I wasn't using my Spotfire cable. He hadn't listened to my system for weeks on end. Personally, I think that If you can't hear the difference, it's either your system or your ears. Westie has said as much with his sonnereer stuff. |
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Post by macca on Jul 5, 2019 11:37:00 GMT
It's true, that did happen. I still think the efficacy of various interconnects varies depending on what kit you use them with though. With Krell/DCB1 combo using the Spotfire makes a significant contribution to sound quality.
For me it's not about hearing a tambourine I'd never noticed before or any of that bollocks, it's more how relaxed the sound is on my ears/brain. If it is irritating me my brain lets me know, and if it is just right, likewise. It isn't a conscious decision that I make. But if I'm feeling like I want to switch the music off then I know summat isn't right and changing the interconnect can help with that sometimes.
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Post by dsjr on Jul 5, 2019 12:19:16 GMT
Then that's fine, if the listener could hear a difference but didn't know what was playing. No argument with that one. Hell, my wife does this and she intentionally doesn't have a feckin' clue about stereo gear - she hears things' blind' as she doesn't know one end of an RCA plug from another!
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