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Post by electronumpty on Dec 8, 2021 21:08:47 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 8, 2021 21:48:49 GMT
🤣 I also don't need any now either 😉 |
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Post by antonio on Dec 8, 2021 22:40:00 GMT
I found Tungsrams to be a bit of a sleeping giant as far a valves go. Everyone goes for Teles at first look but Tungsrams are just as good ime, and cheaper. More dynamic I think, if that's what you want. Just taken delivery of Tungsram factory selected PCC88s with the red numbers on. Looking forwards to trying them out 🙂 Although not for a BB3, the first pre amp valve I purchased for my amp was a Tungsram (Hungary) ECC 83. |
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Post by electronumpty on Dec 8, 2021 23:06:06 GMT
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Post by karma67 on Dec 9, 2021 5:29:29 GMT
the one im wowing about is a foil getter type hence why oli said he never found any cheap enough.they are very good and dare i say it the best combo so far in my BB3.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 7:27:42 GMT
the one im wowing about is a foil getter type hence why oli said he never found any cheap enough.they are very good and dare i say it the best combo so far in my BB3. I am currently running an Tunsgram ECC83 foil getter with Tunsgram PCC88s. I like it a lot. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 16:46:47 GMT
Just bought a ‘50s Tesla foil getter.
Oops.
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Post by karma67 on Dec 9, 2021 17:29:10 GMT
does the seller have anymore left kev?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 17:46:50 GMT
does the seller have anymore left kev? Not at the moment. |
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Post by lurch on Dec 9, 2021 20:44:51 GMT
I've a 1957 Berlin TFK 83 in, payed £35 delivered December last year. Also payed £106 delivered for a quad of NOS TFK 88s 2 weeks later. Bought a pair of NOS 88s a month back and cost me £85, prices have gone daft now.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 9, 2021 21:23:47 GMT
I've a 1957 Berlin TFK 83 in, payed £35 delivered December last year. Also payed £106 delivered for a quad of NOS TFK 88s 2 weeks later. Bought a pair of NOS 88s a month back and cost me £85, prices have gone daft now. What are you using those 88s in? |
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Post by lurch on Dec 9, 2021 23:35:09 GMT
Nowt, sold a air of the Quad I bought to wizmax (Robin) bought the latest pair as spares. Will move them on + the pair of 70s 83s I have should I buy the BBu, will also sell my current pair + the 57, 83.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2021 11:19:58 GMT
wow!  I was in my BB3 replacing R11P as Oli advised, and while I was in there I had a quick look at my ECC83. Looks like it is a silver plate foil getter version. Is this a good thing? It sounds great. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 12, 2021 11:22:43 GMT
wow! I was in my BB3 replacing R11P as Oli advised, and while I was in there I had a quick look at my ECC83. Looks like it is a silver plate foil getter version. Is this a good thing? It sounds great. If it's sounding good, then yes! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2021 11:27:58 GMT
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Post by electronumpty on Dec 12, 2021 15:43:11 GMT
Whats the date code?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2021 16:09:20 GMT
No idea….
What I have found though is this:
In one of the pictures, I can see a 0 6, which would mean May 1960?
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Post by dt79 on Dec 12, 2021 17:35:39 GMT
Couple of questions. Do the valves in V1 and V3 have to be matched or can different valves be used in each?
Also Is there any way to judge whether ‘NOS’ really is, or do you just have to take the seller’s word for it/decide whether you believe them based on the pictures. Almost every valve on eBay seems to say ‘NOS’ and somehow I doubt they all are!
Cheers
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Post by pete on Dec 12, 2021 17:42:07 GMT
Couple of questions. Do the valves in V1 and V3 have to be matched or can different valves be used in each? Also Is there any way to just whether ‘NOS’ really is, or do you just have to take the seller’s word for it/decide whether you believe them based on the pictures. Almost every valve on eBay seems to say ‘NOS’ and somehow I doubt they all are! Cheers Dan I have a <>TFK PCC189 in V3 and a TFK PCC88 in V1 at the moment and sounding great. |
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Post by lurch on Dec 12, 2021 17:47:31 GMT
dt79 what valve make specifically are you after? I have a pair of NOS PCC88 TFKs here and a pair of used (but still good) TFK 83s that I doubt I'll use, additionally if the BBu is as kickass as has been intimated then I'll also have a 2nd pair of 88s and a 1957 TFK 83 that are currently in my BB3 going spare.
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Post by karma67 on Dec 12, 2021 17:57:54 GMT
dt79 what valve make specifically are you after? I have a pair of NOS PCC88 TFKs here and a pair of used (but still good) TFK 83s that I doubt I'll use, additionally if the BBu is as kickass as has been intimated then I'll also have a 2nd pair of 88s and a 1957 TFK 83 that are currently in my BB3 going spare. pm sent  |
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Post by dt79 on Dec 12, 2021 18:06:14 GMT
dt79 what valve make specifically are you after? I have a pair of NOS PCC88 TFKs here and a pair of used (but still good) TFK 83s that I doubt I'll use, additionally if the BBu is as kickass as has been intimated then I'll also have a 2nd pair of 88s and a 1957 TFK 83 that are currently in my BB3 going spare. Thank you. I have a TFK ECC83 in V2 and 2* Siemens PCC88 in V1&3. I would like to try TFK or Tungsram in V1 and 3. I’d seen a single Tungsram PCC88 on ebay for a reasonable price so that was what got me thinking. Very interested in a pair of NOS TFK PCC88s… |
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Post by pete on Dec 12, 2021 18:19:28 GMT
dt79 what valve make specifically are you after? I have a pair of NOS PCC88 TFKs here and a pair of used (but still good) TFK 83s that I doubt I'll use, additionally if the BBu is as kickass as has been intimated then I'll also have a 2nd pair of 88s and a 1957 TFK 83 that are currently in my BB3 going spare. Thank you. I have a TFK ECC83 in V2 and 2* Siemens PCC88 in V1&3. I would like to try TFK or Tungsram in V1 and 3. I’d seen a single Tungsram PCC88 on ebay for a reasonable price so that was what got me thinking. Very interested in a pair of NOS TFK PCC88s… I paid £8 for my NIB TFK 189, I also got a pair of NOS TFK PCC88 for £35 posted, although they sound great think I prefer combination with 189. |
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Post by dt79 on Dec 12, 2021 18:25:40 GMT
Thank you. I have a TFK ECC83 in V2 and 2* Siemens PCC88 in V1&3. I would like to try TFK or Tungsram in V1 and 3. I’d seen a single Tungsram PCC88 on ebay for a reasonable price so that was what got me thinking. Very interested in a pair of NOS TFK PCC88s… I paid £8 for my NIB TFK 189, I also got a pair of NOS TFK PCC88 for £35 posted, although they sound great think I prefer combination with 189. Wow, where are you finding TFKs for those prices? I will keep an eye open for a 189 as well. |
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Post by pete on Dec 12, 2021 18:45:15 GMT
I paid £8 for my NIB TFK 189, I also got a pair of NOS TFK PCC88 for £35 posted, although they sound great think I prefer combination with 189. Wow, where are you finding TFKs for those prices? I will keep an eye open for a 189 as well. Think the 189s are not as popular, I got it off ebay from a guy in Austria, ha had other valves at the time but nothing listed atm. 88s I got from a Jukebox specialist Jukedoc, in Germany. Yep, sadly I have a Jukebox, with a valve amp too! |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 12, 2021 19:49:47 GMT
Wow, where are you finding TFKs for those prices? I will keep an eye open for a 189 as well. Think the 189s are not as popular, I got it off ebay from a guy in Austria, ha had other valves at the time but nothing listed atm. 88s I got from a Jukebox specialist Jukedoc, in Germany. Yep, sadly I have a Jukebox, with a valve amp too! 189's have higher distortion. I don't recommend them. |
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Post by dt79 on Dec 12, 2021 20:07:07 GMT
Think the 189s are not as popular, I got it off ebay from a guy in Austria, ha had other valves at the time but nothing listed atm. 88s I got from a Jukebox specialist Jukedoc, in Germany. Yep, sadly I have a Jukebox, with a valve amp too! 189's have higher distortion. I don't recommend them. Hi Ollie, Is there any other type of valve that can be used in either V1 or V3, or does is have to be PCC88? If you were going to experiment with a single valve, which position would you prioritise? |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 12, 2021 20:09:50 GMT
189's have higher distortion. I don't recommend them. Hi Ollie, Is there any other type of valve that can be used in either V1 or V3, or does is have to be PCC88? If you were going to experiment with a single valve, which position would you prioritise? V1 and only PCC88s only mate. |
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Post by pete on Dec 12, 2021 21:15:49 GMT
Think the 189s are not as popular, I got it off ebay from a guy in Austria, ha had other valves at the time but nothing listed atm. 88s I got from a Jukebox specialist Jukedoc, in Germany. Yep, sadly I have a Jukebox, with a valve amp too! 189's have higher distortion. I don't recommend them. I get that I might have got that one wrong then  |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 12, 2021 21:44:03 GMT
189's have higher distortion. I don't recommend them. I get that I might have got that one wrong then lol, you can use a 189 in V3 but i never liked them. Other people love them! V1 responds well to valve changes, so get a decent PCC88 for there. The guys here know their onions, so they can point you in the right direction. |
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