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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 22:04:05 GMT
I'm currently using thr Rega RB300 that the techy came with it's an Audio Origami fully modded job and not a bad sounding arm, I am though thinking of changing it at some point in the future and wondered if you have any ideas. I'm looking for something with easily adjustable vta for a start and something with better seperation for want of a better word as on some records the RB300 can get a bit muddy around the lower midrange.
The best arm I ever owned that I stupidly sold was a Fidelity Research FR12 so that is the kind of sound I'm looking for. I know some of you have Audio Technica and other arms moddified by Angus would something like that go well on a 1210?
I can't imagine some of the more popular arms people use on a 1210 from Jelco would offer much of an upgrade over the Rega I already have but I'm open to having my mind changed.
I've always wanted to try a unipivot but again not sure how they'd fit and then of course there is a modified version of the Technics original arm so as you can see I'm racking my brains a bit but I'm certain there is a better arm than the RB300 out there. The modded Rega should go for around £300 + as the mods alone would cost that so if I added another couple of hundred I'd be looking to spend around £500 which I guess also begs the question is there a better deck out there for the cost of a heavily modded 1210 + £200.
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Post by Bigman80 on May 4, 2020 22:10:16 GMT
I'm currently using thr Rega RB300 that the techy came with it's an Audio Origami fully modded job and not a bad sounding arm, I am though thinking of changing it at some point in the future and wondered if you have any ideas. I'm looking for something with easily adjustable vta for a start and something with better seperation for want of a better word as on some records the RB300 can get a bit muddy around the lower midrange. The best arm I ever owned that I stupidly sold was a Fidelity Research FR12 so that is the kind of sound I'm looking for. I know some of you have Audio Technica and other arms moddified by Angus would something like that go well on a 1210? I can't imagine some of the more popular arms people use on a 1210 from Jelco would offer much of an upgrade over the Rega I already have but I'm open to having my mind changed. I've always wanted to try a unipivot but again not sure how they'd fit and then of course there is a modified version of the Technics original arm so as you can see I'm racking my brains a bit but I'm certain there is a better arm than the RB300 out there. The modded Rega should go for around £300 + as the mods alone would cost that so if I added another couple of hundred I'd be looking to spend around £500 which I guess also begs the question is there a better deck out there for the cost of a heavily modded 1210 + £200. You wont get one of Angus's AT1010 arms on your 1210. It's got a low slung counterweight and due to the mount in your 1210, it'll drag. Shame, as they are phenomenal arms. They are about £1.3k these days (rough guestimate) Might be an idea to know what ball park figure you are working with. Helps rule out stupid priced arms. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 22:57:29 GMT
I'm currently using thr Rega RB300 that the techy came with it's an Audio Origami fully modded job and not a bad sounding arm, I am though thinking of changing it at some point in the future and wondered if you have any ideas. I'm looking for something with easily adjustable vta for a start and something with better seperation for want of a better word as on some records the RB300 can get a bit muddy around the lower midrange. The best arm I ever owned that I stupidly sold was a Fidelity Research FR12 so that is the kind of sound I'm looking for. I know some of you have Audio Technica and other arms moddified by Angus would something like that go well on a 1210? I can't imagine some of the more popular arms people use on a 1210 from Jelco would offer much of an upgrade over the Rega I already have but I'm open to having my mind changed. I've always wanted to try a unipivot but again not sure how they'd fit and then of course there is a modified version of the Technics original arm so as you can see I'm racking my brains a bit but I'm certain there is a better arm than the RB300 out there. The modded Rega should go for around £300 + as the mods alone would cost that so if I added another couple of hundred I'd be looking to spend around £500 which I guess also begs the question is there a better deck out there for the cost of a heavily modded 1210 + £200. You wont get one of Angus's AT1010 arms on your 1210. It's got a low slung counterweight and due to the mount in your 1210, it'll drag. Shame, as they are phenomenal arms. They are about £1.3k these days (rough guestimate) Might be an idea to know what ball park figure you are working with. Helps rule out stupid priced arms. Including the sale of my Rega £500 |
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Post by Bigman80 on May 4, 2020 23:07:44 GMT
You wont get one of Angus's AT1010 arms on your 1210. It's got a low slung counterweight and due to the mount in your 1210, it'll drag. Shame, as they are phenomenal arms. They are about £1.3k these days (rough guestimate) Might be an idea to know what ball park figure you are working with. Helps rule out stupid priced arms. Including the sale of my Rega £500 Ok, that's a decent budget for used Tonearm. I'll put me thinking cap on |
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Post by antonio on May 5, 2020 6:57:25 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on May 5, 2020 7:35:53 GMT
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Post by firebottle on May 5, 2020 7:50:20 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on May 5, 2020 7:57:32 GMT
About average but cant get it on the 1210 because of the CW However, on a lenco......... |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 9:39:57 GMT
I think an Audiomods with micrometer would be good for the on the fly VTA adjustment.
I do like The Funk arms as well though.
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Post by Bigman80 on May 5, 2020 10:15:41 GMT
I think an Audiomods with micrometer would be good for the on the fly VTA adjustment. I do like The Funk arms as well though. Yes......audiomods 5 would be a superb choice. Well done Kevin. Great suggestion |
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Post by sq225917 on May 5, 2020 12:42:54 GMT
Love the audiomods, joe has one on his massive home built maglev deck with tungsten bearing, sounds superb.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 5:55:35 GMT
Thanks Antonio I too really like the Audimods and Funk Firm arms and what I really, really don't want is a sideways move. I do like the look of that Hadcock though. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 6:11:07 GMT
Any thoughts on the Micro Seiki 505 I believe Angus has reworked these too a member on AoS used one also on a 1210 I believe. Looks like it could work would cost around £400 posted from Japan does anyone have a rough ballpark figure for Angus's mods.
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Post by karma67 on May 6, 2020 6:36:46 GMT
Any thoughts on the Micro Seiki 505 I believe Angus has reworked these too a member on AoS used one also on a 1210 I believe. Looks like it could work would cost around £400 posted from Japan does anyone have a rough ballpark figure for Angus's mods. i would think that would push the total spend up to around £600-700,dont forget to factor import duty etc |
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Post by Bigman80 on May 6, 2020 7:25:35 GMT
Any thoughts on the Micro Seiki 505 I believe Angus has reworked these too a member on AoS used one also on a 1210 I believe. Looks like it could work would cost around £400 posted from Japan does anyone have a rough ballpark figure for Angus's mods. Ye, he told me not to bother lol |
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Post by karma67 on May 6, 2020 7:27:15 GMT
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Post by antonio on May 6, 2020 7:46:33 GMT
Thanks Antonio I too really like the Audimods and Funk Firm arms and what I really, really don't want is a sideways move. I do like the look of that Hadcock though. I've never heard a Hadcock, but many people like them including our own Bigman, and it looked in good condition. I would still be looking at an Audiomods. decisions decisions.  |
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Post by Bigman80 on May 6, 2020 8:02:27 GMT
Thanks Antonio I too really like the Audimods and Funk Firm arms and what I really, really don't want is a sideways move. I do like the look of that Hadcock though. I've never heard a Hadcock, but many people like them including our own Bigman, and it looked in good condition. I would still be looking at an Audiomods. decisions decisions. I like the Mission 774 more than the hadcock and the Rega.... www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324148075304A quick rewire and it's a killer arm. |
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Post by antonio on May 6, 2020 8:30:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 18:24:15 GMT
Any thoughts on the Micro Seiki 505 I believe Angus has reworked these too a member on AoS used one also on a 1210 I believe. Looks like it could work would cost around £400 posted from Japan does anyone have a rough ballpark figure for Angus's mods. Ye, he told me not to bother lol I know nothing about that particular arm but there's a guy on AoS who swears by it and the mods Angus did on it but are you saying that Angus told you the work he did made no difference to that arm and not to bother with it or that the guy on AoS whose actually been telling other members to buy that arm and then put money in Angus's pocket to modify it then told you not to bother with it I'm confused? What I actually meant was does anyone have a ball park figure for Angus's mods in general so are you saying he said not to bother with the Micro Seki mods or not to bother with his mods at all? |
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Post by Bigman80 on May 6, 2020 18:28:17 GMT
Ye, he told me not to bother lol I know nothing about that particular arm but there's a guy on AoS who swears by it and the mods Angus did on it but are you saying that Angus told you the work he did made no difference to that arm and not to bother with it or that the guy on AoS whose actually been telling other members to buy that arm and then put money in Angus's pocket to modify it then told you not to bother with it I'm confused? What I actually meant was does anyone have a ball park figure for Angus's mods in general so are you saying he said not to bother with the Micro Seki mods or not to bother with his mods at all? What I am saying is Angus told me not to bother, when I asked him about it. Of course, the work he did made a difference but at the time an AT1010 could be had for not much more. My comment was slightly tongue in cheek......obviously that didnt transfer to text. |
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Post by Bigman80 on May 6, 2020 18:28:33 GMT
Ye, he told me not to bother lol I know nothing about that particular arm but there's a guy on AoS who swears by it and the mods Angus did on it but are you saying that Angus told you the work he did made no difference to that arm and not to bother with it or that the guy on AoS whose actually been telling other members to buy that arm and then put money in Angus's pocket to modify it then told you not to bother with it I'm confused? What I actually meant was does anyone have a ball park figure for Angus's mods in general so are you saying he said not to bother with the Micro Seki mods or not to bother with his mods at all? Btw....whis the guy on AoS? |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 18:35:23 GMT
I know nothing about that particular arm but there's a guy on AoS who swears by it and the mods Angus did on it but are you saying that Angus told you the work he did made no difference to that arm and not to bother with it or that the guy on AoS whose actually been telling other members to buy that arm and then put money in Angus's pocket to modify it then told you not to bother with it I'm confused? What I actually meant was does anyone have a ball park figure for Angus's mods in general so are you saying he said not to bother with the Micro Seki mods or not to bother with his mods at all? Btw....whis the guy on AoS? I actually got the serial number wrong it's the cheaper -202 but here is what the member said verbatim- " Micro Seiki MA-202 tonearm - A very well made and respected vintage tonearm which I think matches the 12XX beautifully. You should be able to pick up a tidy one for under £200, then send it to Angus (Phonomac) for an overhaul, re-wire and new hybrid ceramic bearings. It also has on the fly vta. Not quite as slick as the techies on the fly but on the fly all the same and most certainly a good thing to have than not". |
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Post by Bigman80 on May 6, 2020 18:39:35 GMT
Btw....whis the guy on AoS? I actually got the serial number wrong it's the cheaper -202 but here is what the member said verbatim- " Micro Seiki MA-202 tonearm - A very well made and respected vintage tonearm which I think matches the 12XX beautifully. You should be able to pick up a tidy one for under £200, then send it to Angus (Phonomac) for an overhaul, re-wire and new hybrid ceramic bearings. It also has on the fly vta. Not quite as slick as the techies on the fly but on the fly all the same and most certainly a good thing to have than not". Well whatever you buy, I'd be tapping up Angus for a rewire regardless. |
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Post by macca on May 6, 2020 19:49:15 GMT
I know nothing about that particular arm but there's a guy on AoS who swears by it and the mods Angus did on it but are you saying that Angus told you the work he did made no difference to that arm and not to bother with it or that the guy on AoS whose actually been telling other members to buy that arm and then put money in Angus's pocket to modify it then told you not to bother with it I'm confused? What I actually meant was does anyone have a ball park figure for Angus's mods in general so are you saying he said not to bother with the Micro Seki mods or not to bother with his mods at all? Btw....whis the guy on AoS? might be Robbie, I'm pretty sure he was using a Micro Seiki when he had an SL1210. Don't know which one. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 21:18:24 GMT
Yes RobbieGong he's gone through the full spectrum of mods and has real life experience with the 1210 and so his views on it have to be respected.
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Post by karma67 on May 7, 2020 5:51:18 GMT
Yes RobbieGong he's gone through the full spectrum of mods and has real life experience with the 1210 and so his views on it have to be respected. as does the man who worked on the tonearm. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 4:44:54 GMT
Yes RobbieGong he's gone through the full spectrum of mods and has real life experience with the 1210 and so his views on it have to be respected. as does the man who worked on the tonearm. Do you have one of his tonearms and if so which one? |
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Post by karma67 on May 8, 2020 5:46:07 GMT
yes i do,a mk 6 at-1010, absolutely superb arm that has been greatly improved over the standard one,he has also worked on my pioneer pa-5000 tonearm.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 21:18:45 GMT
I have been speaking to Angus regarding an arm and also enquired about the Hadcock 242 in the classifieds and whilst researching it I came across a Hadcock GH228 on ebay for £145 in working order being sold by Stamford Audio so it seemed to cheap to pass up the chance to have a play around with one for a reasonably low amount that will easily be recouped.
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