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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 13, 2020 11:20:16 GMT
No need to shout is there lol DUNNO WHAT YOU MEAN?  Ha, indeed |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 13, 2020 11:22:03 GMT
They used to burn witches because it was thought a good idea. Herd mentality. Don't understand the point you are trying to make, Geoff. A commonly held belief that something existed with no factual basis. Kills carried out by people easily led by others. Metaphor for the grounding box. |
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Post by pauld on Jan 13, 2020 11:35:49 GMT
Don't understand the point you are trying to make, Geoff. A commonly held belief that something existed with no factual basis. Kills carried out by people easily led by others. Metaphor for the grounding box. Fair enough, not sure I agree the example is that valid in this example. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 13, 2020 11:43:50 GMT
It seems that one person's audiofoolery misconception is another person's experienced-based truth. This is the big problem with HiFi. I "know" that currently there are probably more arguments against, say a RCA socket, making any difference to sound. The science certainly suggests that the size of the contact area will have more of an impact, yet I have repeatedly changed sockets, plugs and cables and heard differences. I even blind tested people who didn't even know they were being tested and got the same results. There is more to this HiFi stuff that a simple yes or no answer to any question. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 11:44:29 GMT
Speakers sound better bi-wired ?
POOP.
Please feel free to lower case POOP Paul if you think it's a bit shouty. 😂
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Post by pauld on Jan 13, 2020 11:45:40 GMT
It seems that one person's audiofoolery misconception is another person's experienced-based truth. This is the big problem with HiFi. I "know" that currently there are probably more arguments against, say a RCA socket, making any difference to sound. The science certainly suggests that the size of the contact area will have more of an impact, yet I have repeatedly changed sockets, plugs and cables and heard differences. I even blind tested people who didn't even know they were being tested and got the same results. There is more to this HiFi stuff that a simple yes or no answer to any question. I think we can blame that all on the big thing between our ears  |
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Post by pauld on Jan 13, 2020 12:04:54 GMT
I look at it this way, using Fuses as an example.
Peronsally, I think £120 for a fuse seems a lot of money when a standard fuse can be bought for less than £5 for a pack of 10 on Amazon.
However, I have never heard one in my system so I would struggle to argue that there is a difference and don't feel it is my right to either and I refuse to make assumptions.
If someone has disposable income of say £1000 a month or more to spend on whatever they like, then I guess a couple of £120 fuses now an again seems reasonable to them if they feel they make enough of a difference.
Someone with £5 a month or less disposable income is going to think that a £120 is stupidly expensive and arguably won't ever buy one.
It is all relative.
I think my point being, that each to their own.
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Post by jandl100 on Jan 13, 2020 12:16:15 GMT
Speakers sound better bi-wired ? POOP. I haven't found that to be so. There you go, fixed that for you. |
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Post by pauld on Jan 13, 2020 12:39:27 GMT
Speakers sound better bi-wired ? POOP. Please feel free to lower case POOP Paul if you think it's a bit shouty. 😂 I found bi-wiring made a difference with my previous Epos ES-14 speakers but made little difference to their predecessors, Linn Nexus. Having recently become aware of the important of using good quality jumpers, I am not sure had I done this with the Epos whether that would have had the same level of difference as bi-wiring Bi-amping made the most amount of difference, but that is a different discussion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 12:56:10 GMT
Moving Coil Cartridges are better than Moving Magnet Cartridges.
I haven't found that to be so. 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 13:17:45 GMT
I look at it this way, using Fuses as an example. Peronsally, I think £120 for a fuse seems a lot of money when a standard fuse can be bought for less than £5 for a pack of 10 on Amazon. However, I have never heard one in my system so I would struggle to argue that there is a difference and don't feel it is my right to either and I refuse to make assumptions. If someone has disposable income of say £1000 a month or more to spend on whatever they like, then I guess a couple of £120 fuses now an again seems reasonable to them if they feel they make enough of a difference. Someone with £5 a month or less disposable income is going to think that a £120 is stupidly expensive and arguably won't ever buy one. It is all relative. I think my point being, that each to their own. I bought a £120 fuse for my plug, but struggled to fit it. Also turning it around 50.times.a second was a challenge to benefit from the directionality of it. Joking aside, cables may be "directional" but I don't think electrons are aware they can flow easier one way compared to the other. I always find that unless I can switch instantly between one and another, my audio memory is not great in remembering what the last configuration sounded like. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 13:18:03 GMT
Really?? I did not know that Nope.....Never knew that either. 👍 There ya go , pop pickers.... . .  i will change poems |
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Post by macca on Jan 13, 2020 14:02:58 GMT
Where there really 8 different types of music in the 1940s?
Classical, Jazz, Country, Blues and....I'm all out of ideas.
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Post by macca on Jan 13, 2020 14:12:15 GMT
Oh folk music, forgot about that.
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Post by pauld on Jan 13, 2020 17:05:03 GMT
Genres appears to be made out of nowhere these days.
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Post by pauld on Jan 13, 2020 17:06:05 GMT
Genres appears to be made out of nowhere these days. Like K-Pop, why is it K-Pop not just pop? or should ours be known as E-pop or B-Pop or UK-Pop, madness! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 1:25:01 GMT
Stands make a difference.........BULLSHIT.
Your cack hifi can't handle the wobble....!!!!
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 14, 2020 7:44:51 GMT
Genres appears to be made out of nowhere these days. Like K-Pop, why is it K-Pop not just pop? or should ours be known as E-pop or B-Pop or UK-Pop, madness! We did have britpop in the 90s, which I presume could be precursor to the K-Pop thing? |
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Post by pauld on Jan 14, 2020 13:42:21 GMT
Stands make a difference.........BULLSHIT. Your cack hifi can't handle the wobble....!!!! Na they make a lot of difference. Adding footers like Black Ravioli in addition also makes a difference. |
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Post by pauld on Jan 14, 2020 13:44:11 GMT
Like K-Pop, why is it K-Pop not just pop? or should ours be known as E-pop or B-Pop or UK-Pop, madness! We did have britpop in the 90s, which I presume could be precursor to the K-Pop thing? True, but either way to be it is all Pop. |
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Post by pauld on Jan 14, 2020 14:06:35 GMT
Stands make a difference.........BULLSHIT. Your cack hifi can't handle the wobble....!!!! Na they make a lot of difference. Adding footers like Black Ravioli in addition also makes a difference. Add some granite or something heavy onto your sources and and amps and that makes a marginal improvement too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 14:40:11 GMT
Stands make a difference.........BULLSHIT. Your cack hifi can't handle the wobble....!!!! Na they make a lot of difference. Adding footers like Black Ravioli in addition also makes a difference. Some may say. |
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Post by pauld on Jan 14, 2020 14:52:58 GMT
Na they make a lot of difference. Adding footers like Black Ravioli in addition also makes a difference. Some may say. Exactly. |
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Post by macca on Jan 14, 2020 15:06:10 GMT
But it's a misconception....
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Post by pauld on Jan 14, 2020 15:11:08 GMT
But it's a misconception.... What is a misconception? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 15:21:24 GMT
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Post by pauld on Jan 14, 2020 15:33:26 GMT
I know what a misconception is, I just didn't understand the context that Martin was referring to. |
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Post by macca on Jan 14, 2020 17:51:45 GMT
This 'Add some granite or something heavy onto your sources and amps and that makes a marginal improvement too.'
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Post by macca on Jan 14, 2020 17:53:46 GMT
I should add that I too used to believe this and always had a 10 kilo weight on the cd player. I thought it made a fractional improvement.
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Post by pauld on Jan 14, 2020 18:02:55 GMT
I agree it is only minimal but in my opinion enough of a difference to warrant doing it.
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