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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 10:27:30 GMT
If those yammies are for fucking sale ......🤪 I doubt you'll get them from Jamie. They are super speakers and he'd be bonkers to let them go Thanks a lot. 🙄 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 10:40:34 GMT
I doubt you'll get them from Jamie. They are super speakers and he'd be bonkers to let them go Thanks a lot. 🙄 Lol, I don't believe he mentioned he was thinking of selling them anyway? |
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Post by karma67 on Sept 22, 2019 11:31:49 GMT
no way are they for sale,sorry engine.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 22, 2019 12:23:34 GMT
Prices seem to have shot up. Not that long ago they were £450-550
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 22, 2019 12:32:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 12:37:54 GMT
Imagine if Gromit took pictures of those Spica's. Man those pics would come out good.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 22, 2019 12:39:02 GMT
Imagine if Gromit took pictures of those Spica's. Man those pics would come out good. S. Yeah he was awesome. I sold him a couple of things and wanted them back when I saw his pics  |
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 22, 2019 12:42:15 GMT
Shouldn't three ways with drivers offset have them set on the inside to prevent baffle reflections fecking with the imaging, especially when they're not toed in? That's what I was taught anyway by people who know what they're on about... I seem to recall the more expensive and rather better NS2000's had vertical inline drivers. They did - forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/vintage-yamaha-ns-2000-speakers-w-pics.775880/My latest experiments with Spicas and Elas would say you’re right, Dave, |
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Post by karma67 on Sept 22, 2019 13:18:50 GMT
Shouldn't three ways with drivers offset have them set on the inside to prevent baffle reflections fecking with the imaging, especially when they're not toed in? That's what I was taught anyway by people who know what they're on about... I seem to recall the more expensive and rather better NS2000's had vertical inline drivers. They did - forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/vintage-yamaha-ns-2000-speakers-w-pics.775880/the speakers are marked l and r,thats how i have them,it also states in the owners manual to connect the left speakers to the left channel and right speaker to the right channel. who's right? dave or yamaha?
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Post by karma67 on Sept 22, 2019 13:31:30 GMT
hang on a minute,it could be dave!  |
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Post by dsjr on Sept 22, 2019 13:48:31 GMT
The pic above with drivers on the inside is how I was taught to do it and how so many speakers like this are set - I learned from IMF in the mid 70's and ATC in the 90's, their designers giving chapter and verse - sorry. I don't remember my NS1000's having typed or written L and R on the back, but maybe my memory is shagged here (quite possibly). You *should in theory* get slightly better imaging between the speakers with mid and tweet inset, but it's obviously up to you here. Objective measurements don't use polar diagrams any more and the Stereophile 'waterfall' plots I often find confusing. These days, testing is computerised with arrays of mics able to rotate in almost all directions around a stationary speaker (not sure, but the 'Spinorama' word comes up a lot these days) but how we on the outside would be able to properly decode the data I don't know. My IMF Compacts have the EMI cone tweeter on the top left (not mirror imaged) and the Elac doped-cone mid (same as macca's TLS50's) on the mid right - picclick.fr/IMF-Compact-Hifi-Stereo-Bookshelf-Speakers-3-Way-133015602372.htmlwww.ebay.fr/itm/133015602372Rubber main driver surrounds not original in the pics as they were foam in mine and Wembley Loudspeakers replaced them for me with the correct spec. - so *technically,* it's impossible to optimise in a very near field position. In practise it's fine subjectively and i don't have them set up properly anyway. The supplied polar diagram as printed in the brochure I have shows quite definitely the compromise in having an offset tweeter but I don't have a pic account to post and link to. All a load of bollox I suspect, so apologies for getting anal about it! |
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Post by karma67 on Sept 22, 2019 14:03:55 GMT
The pic above with drivers on the inside is how I was taught to do it and how so many speakers like this are set - I learned from IMF in the mid 70's and ATC in the 90's, their designers giving chapter and verse - sorry. I don't remember my NS1000's having typed or written L and R on the back, but maybe my memory is shagged here (quite possibly). You *should in theory* get slightly better imaging between the speakers with mid and tweet inset, but it's obviously up to you here. yep your right,your memory is shagged lol i'll give them a run with tweeters nearest the inside for a while though
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Post by dsjr on Sept 22, 2019 16:18:36 GMT
I've not seen mine for over thirty years, but had I been disagreeing with the rear labels I'm sure I'd have remembered. Mind you, I always thought 'mine' had 4mm sockets on the back, so there ya go... I can't even remember how long I had them for - I think it was ten months before the first pair of ES14's came along (original ones in walnut with cast ally tweeter plates and optimised for free space use).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 16:22:30 GMT
You won't get any joy with those NS's.
You'd be better off flogging them to me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 17:58:18 GMT
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Post by macca on Sept 22, 2019 18:52:28 GMT
I suspect they are pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 18:58:54 GMT
Mordaunt Short made some decent speakers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 19:14:05 GMT
I suspect they are pretty good. I do too. Trying to contact the seller of a pair who lives one road away. Typically, no answer lol |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 20:45:19 GMT
Only had one pair of MS.
The bass was uncontrollable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 20:46:30 GMT
Which MS speaker was that?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 21:00:47 GMT
Can't remember , sorry.
Standmounts with a huge port which I had to put a home made bung in is all I can recall.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 23, 2019 0:38:18 GMT
I’d be surprised if they were crap. I always wanted tome 442s. Nearly bought a pair ex dem many years ago. |
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Post by antonio on Sept 23, 2019 5:05:49 GMT
I like the look of them. |
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Post by antonio on Sept 23, 2019 5:08:25 GMT
Did this mean you didn't know your left from your right?  |
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Post by alit on Sept 23, 2019 7:02:34 GMT
Bastanis open baffles for me. Not for everyone but I like them.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 23, 2019 7:22:09 GMT
Tannoy Cheviot 2's for me    Nicely load out system with plenty of space for the speakers to breathe. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 10:32:01 GMT
Cheers
Its quite an odd room. Its an open plan kitchen/lounge/diner about 25' x 35' maximum. There is a pillar in the middle that divides it. the back half of the room is the kitchen, the front left is the TV/hifi with two 3 seat sofas that close it off from the rest of the room, the front right is the dining table. All bar the dining area is a flat ceiling at about 8ft, the dining area is a vault ceiling that goes up to about 12' with 3 skylights.
The acoustics are odd. By the speakers its quite bassy. But where we sit facing the TV there is a suck-out, so I have a Wharfedale sub in the system to fill out the bass at the listening position. But if you walk around you can hear the bass level going up and down - standing near the listening sofa its much more bassy...
But yes we have plenty of space, and the speakers fill the room pretty well
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 10:33:36 GMT
Bastanis open baffles for me. Not for everyone but I like them. I liked them at Nebo. Shame we didnt have the TT playing at its best when we put on the room-clearing Bach Organ Tocatta... I wanted to hear those 18" drivers shake me properly. Its quite an experience at high volumes when the big pipes kick in... Another time |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 7:16:43 GMT
After chopping and changing for a few years I’ve had these Dynaudio Contour s3.4’s for about three years now.
They are quite big coming up to my armpit (I’m 5’ 10”) and shouldn’t work in my 17m sq living room but they do.
Excellent bass and Mid but the tweeters are the star for me.
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