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Post by rexton on Oct 4, 2021 19:18:09 GMT
Neurochrome monoblocks I think ??!!??
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 4, 2021 19:25:02 GMT
Mecca, what is this "allowed" of which you speak? Keep the buggers out.... What are those massive power amp there? Or are they a super sized paradise🙂 They are Neurochrome 486's (Simons designation) I believe they are dual 86 bards in each box.
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Post by electronumpty on Oct 4, 2021 19:26:56 GMT
Oh , bet they are worth a listen!
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 4, 2021 19:34:42 GMT
Oh , bet they are worth a listen! They were good when they came here.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 4, 2021 21:40:56 GMT
Never used any of this stuff before, so thought I'd take the opportunity to use it for an AES cable I require between the Aria and the Mutec. XLRs are supplied by Monosaudio (Viborg) Hoping the plugs arrive tomorrow, as I only have two days left at work and then I'm off for five days. Perfect opportunity to get some HiFi stuff off my plate.
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Post by antonio on Oct 4, 2021 23:51:16 GMT
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Post by optical on Oct 5, 2021 9:09:25 GMT
Never used any of this stuff before, so thought I'd take the opportunity to use it for an AES cable I require between the Aria and the Mutec. XLRs are supplied by Monosaudio (Viborg) Hoping the plugs arrive tomorrow, as I only have two days left at work and then I'm off for five days. Perfect opportunity to get some HiFi stuff off my plate. Very nice that'll be Oli, certainly not leaving it to chance there being the possibility of a 'weak link' in the audio chain there. Will be requiring something similar myself (when I finally pull the trigger, it's imminent . . .) but from Mutec to DAC. Although I'm wondering if I'll see as much benefit as from the source (streamer) the Mutec will be fed via a coaxial (unbalanced) signal . . . . Hmmmm.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 5, 2021 10:38:54 GMT
Never used any of this stuff before, so thought I'd take the opportunity to use it for an AES cable I require between the Aria and the Mutec. XLRs are supplied by Monosaudio (Viborg) Hoping the plugs arrive tomorrow, as I only have two days left at work and then I'm off for five days. Perfect opportunity to get some HiFi stuff off my plate. Very nice that'll be Oli, certainly not leaving it to chance there being the possibility of a 'weak link' in the audio chain there. Will be requiring something similar myself (when I finally pull the trigger, it's imminent . . .) but from Mutec to DAC. Although I'm wondering if I'll see as much benefit as from the source (streamer) the Mutec will be fed via a coaxial (unbalanced) signal . . . . Hmmmm. For the sake of 60ish quid and half hour, I don't think there is a reason to wonder
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2021 6:01:49 GMT
Had a touch of good fortune again over the last couple of days. A friend of mine has been on the lookout for some Townshend bars for his new Alchris Speakers. Whilst trawling the net he came a cross a set of 42-88kg rated ones, which were way to big for his 16kg Alchris. My Townsend bars are right at their limit (if not over tbh) with the Q Acoustics, so I offered him the swap for my pair, should he buy them. Mine being a much better rating for his requirements. They arrived into the system last night and everything has gone according to plan. We now both have the right rated bars, and I now have much improved bottom end resolution as a result. Well pleased. The speakers will need to be levelled up later, but last night provided a cracking insight into why getting the rating right is essential to these isolation marvels. Looking forward to giving the system a proper bash later on.
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Post by optical on Oct 6, 2021 6:45:07 GMT
Had a touch of good fortune again over the last couple of days. A friend of mine has been on the lookout for some Townshend bars for his new Alchris Speakers. Whilst trawling the net he came a cross a set of 42-88kg rated ones, which were way to big for his 16kg Alchris. My Townsend bars are right at their limit (if not over tbh) with the Q Acoustics, so I offered him the swap for my pair, should he buy them. Mine being a much better rating for his requirements. They arrived into the system last night and everything has gone according to plan. We now both have the right rated bars, and I now have much improved bottom end resolution as a result. Well pleased. The speakers will need to be levelled up later, but last night provided a cracking insight into why getting the rating right is essential to these isolation marvels. Looking forward to giving the system a proper bash later on. Dang . . . need to up my Seismic Load Cell game . . . .
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2021 6:55:07 GMT
Had a touch of good fortune again over the last couple of days. A friend of mine has been on the lookout for some Townshend bars for his new Alchris Speakers. Whilst trawling the net he came a cross a set of 42-88kg rated ones, which were way to big for his 16kg Alchris. My Townsend bars are right at their limit (if not over tbh) with the Q Acoustics, so I offered him the swap for my pair, should he buy them. Mine being a much better rating for his requirements. They arrived into the system last night and everything has gone according to plan. We now both have the right rated bars, and I now have much improved bottom end resolution as a result. Well pleased. The speakers will need to be levelled up later, but last night provided a cracking insight into why getting the rating right is essential to these isolation marvels. Looking forward to giving the system a proper bash later on. Dang . . . need to up my Seismic Load Cell game . . . . Yes you do. Essential kit in my opinion
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Post by optical on Oct 6, 2021 7:06:06 GMT
Dang . . . need to up my Seismic Load Cell game . . . . Yes you do. Essential kit in my opinion Slight issue for me . . . . the bottom unit (bass driver) of my speakers are mounted (actually built into) a plinth with brass spikes underneath the base. Not sure what could be used in this case. I assume the Townshend's hold the speaker more 'rigidly' or do they dissipate the weight more evenly or over a wider area? I could imagine that changing the relationship with how they are coupled/decoupled to the floor and therefore the sound.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2021 7:12:23 GMT
Yes you do. Essential kit in my opinion Slight issue for me . . . . the bottom unit (bass driver) of my speakers are mounted (actually built into) a plinth with brass spikes underneath the base. Not sure what could be used in this case. I assume the Townshend's hold the speaker more 'rigidly' or do they dissipate the weight more evenly or over a wider area? I could imagine that changing the relationship with how they are coupled/decoupled to the floor and therefore the sound. My concepts have a chrome plinth which can't be removed, so I use the bars under the plinth. As for changing the sound....they will. That's the whole idea of them. To actively decouple your speakers from the floor. Now, whether that is a good thing for you, I don't know but I've not heard a single pair of speakers sound worse with them in place?
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2021 15:09:28 GMT
Back into making cables for the day. The DHLabs 110 cable is now built and sheeted in some carbon infused braid. All looking very tidy. Just about to plug in and see what happens.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2021 15:16:09 GMT
Oh dear......not loving it.
It sounds so heavy!! The vividness and energy of the sound has dropped right back into some sort of lazy Sunday evening Infront of the fire type sound
I mean, I know I shouldn't be judging it until it's his time hours on it, but hmmm.....
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Post by optical on Oct 6, 2021 15:46:50 GMT
Oh dear......not loving it. It sounds so heavy!! The vividness and energy of the sound has dropped right back into some sort of lazy Sunday evening Infront of the fire type sound I mean, I know I shouldn't be judging it until it's his time hours on it, but hmmm..... I..... am not loving that Oli.... 🤨 Burn baby burn! (In).... Hopefully.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2021 15:51:14 GMT
Oh dear......not loving it. It sounds so heavy!! The vividness and energy of the sound has dropped right back into some sort of lazy Sunday evening Infront of the fire type sound I mean, I know I shouldn't be judging it until it's his time hours on it, but hmmm..... I..... am not loving that Oli.... 🤨 Burn baby burn! (In).... Hopefully. It's a bit odd. I am just double checking I have built the cable correctly
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Post by sq225917 on Oct 6, 2021 18:46:59 GMT
Not to jump in on olis thread but... the paradise is just poking out on the far left under the deck. The amps are a pair of bridged 86p, that's a stereo chip amp with both channels on each chip run in parallel,and two of em in each mono chassis. So a dual mono 486, if such a thing existed, they've got bigger traffo 500va and two psu boards per side as opposed to 400va and single psu per side when oli heard them.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2021 18:48:24 GMT
Not to jump in on olis thread but... the paradise is just poking out on the far left under the deck. The amps are a pair of bridged 86p, that's a stereo chip amp with both channels on each chip run in parallel,and two of em in each mono chassis. So a dual mono 486, if such a thing existed, they've got bigger traffo 500va and two psu boards per side as opposed to 400va and single psu per side when oli heard them. The thread Interruption is absolutely ok. Didn't you up the capacitance as well?
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Post by robbiegong on Oct 6, 2021 19:22:38 GMT
Oh dear......not loving it. It sounds so heavy!! The vividness and energy of the sound has dropped right back into some sort of lazy Sunday evening Infront of the fire type sound I mean, I know I shouldn't be judging it until it's his time hours on it, but hmmm..... Sorry to hear Olster but can happen. Possible improvement after burn in / time but can be synergy too.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2021 20:08:25 GMT
Oh dear......not loving it. It sounds so heavy!! The vividness and energy of the sound has dropped right back into some sort of lazy Sunday evening Infront of the fire type sound I mean, I know I shouldn't be judging it until it's his time hours on it, but hmmm..... Sorry to hear Olster but can happen. Possible improvement after burn in / time but can be synergy too. It's ok Rob. It's been my experience that you shouldn't judge immediately. Just surprised at how HEAVY it sounded. Having a listen to vinyl for today/tomorrow whilst leaving the AES cable to burn in over night. I'm hoping it wakes up for tomorrow as I have a DAC visiting. A very good one by all reports 😉
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Post by optical on Oct 7, 2021 6:37:31 GMT
Sorry to hear Olster but can happen. Possible improvement after burn in / time but can be synergy too. I'm hoping it wakes up for tomorrow as I have a DAC visiting. A very good one by all reports 😉 Assuming there was no issue found with the construction of the cable sir? Is that a DAC perhaps residing but a few dual carriageways away (and a sh*t load of traffic lights) . . . .
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 7, 2021 6:44:34 GMT
I'm hoping it wakes up for tomorrow as I have a DAC visiting. A very good one by all reports 😉 Assuming there was no issue found with the construction of the cable sir? Is that a DAC perhaps residing but a few dual carriageways away (and a sh*t load of traffic lights) . . . . It most certainly is! Yes, Alan has been a very secretive little sausage, I must say. Catching me by surprise and spending some big bucks (to our social class) On a very interesting DAC. The AES cable is made correctly. And was sounding much better last night. I'm hoping the 10hrs of constant play overnight has helped it for today. If not, I'll stick the other one back in for today's DAC battle.
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Post by optical on Oct 7, 2021 6:46:25 GMT
Assuming there was no issue found with the construction of the cable sir? Is that a DAC perhaps residing but a few dual carriageways away (and a sh*t load of traffic lights) . . . . It most certainly is! Yes, Alan has been a very secretive little sausage, I must say. Catching me by surprise and spending some big bucks (to our social class) On a very interesting DAC. The AES cable is made correctly. And was sounding much better last night. I'm hoping the 10hrs of constant play overnight has helped it for today. If not, I'll stick the other one back in for today's DAC battle. Great stuff Oli, on all counts. Looking forward to you blokes critiquing a box of chips what wires come out of.
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Post by firebottle on Oct 7, 2021 6:46:34 GMT
Not quite this bad..
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 7, 2021 6:47:01 GMT
Not quite this bad.. Is that a Christmas tree 🤣
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Post by zleepy on Oct 8, 2021 8:53:46 GMT
I really enjoyed reading the review of Alans' Holo Spring 3 so thanks for that! Congrats also to Alan for acquiring what to me seems like an end game DAC!
For the sake of not cluttering that space I thought I'd ask here; Did the AES cable you put together "wake up" at all? Did you try that at all when testing out the Spring 3?
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 8, 2021 12:33:21 GMT
I really enjoyed reading the review of Alans' Holo Spring 3 so thanks for that! Congrats also to Alan for acquiring what to me seems like an end game DAC! For the sake of not cluttering that space I thought I'd ask here; Did the AES cable you put together "wake up" at all? Did you try that at all when testing out the Spring 3? You are welcome! Yes, tried the AES again and it sucked. Now leaving it to get to 100 hours before it's last audition and if it's no better I'll be lobbing it on ebay
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Post by zleepy on Oct 8, 2021 15:53:41 GMT
Well who would have thought that?? To my understanding an AES/EBU cables’ strength is when there’s long distances to be covered but it should certainly not be worse than coax. You never know before you’ve tried a cable how it will perform do you? Frustrating says I!
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 8, 2021 15:56:39 GMT
Got totally pissed off about the AES cable, so dismantling it was on the agenda.
I have now repurposed the blingy Monosaudio plugs onto a scrap piece of smaller gauge OCC copper and Voila!
We now have what I would can a "noticeable improvement" over the the previous cable made with the same OCC cable and Neutrik plugs, and a dramatic improvement over the DHLabs cable with Monosaudio plugs.
In my frustration, I also made two others. One from am HDMI cable and one from an old cheap interconnect, both using Neutrik plugs. Both of those battered the DHLabs cable.
Don't buy it...it's utter Sh#t.
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