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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 7:20:42 GMT
Anyway, what is this new cable you hinted about? A Graphene based interconnect?
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 13, 2020 8:59:18 GMT
Anyway, what is this new cable you hinted about? A Graphene based interconnect? No, not graphene. I've actually gone in a completely different direction. Looking more at what the cable is conducting, rather than what's conducting it. I have a bit of cable come my way last week and I found there to be a lot of positive points about it but it was very old stuff. Completely unavailable and no way of identifying it. So I looked at the construct of the stuff and found there to be a lot of similarities with a cable thats used for other purposes. Nothing special, just really well shielded. I'm investigating further when my hand allows it. |
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Post by firebottle on Feb 13, 2020 9:02:40 GMT
That is pretty staggering, PC SMPS have come a long way. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 9:25:41 GMT
They have. The price has also increased as well though.
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 13, 2020 9:44:59 GMT
Yup, that's a decent bit of kit......only thing is Linear psus are super cheap at the minute from China and it's still gonna keep a lot of noise at bay using a toroid.
Must say, I've had no complaints with the SMPS I have in my system but I am going to start phasing them out soon
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 10:51:37 GMT
The CD player and Music PC are the only two left in my system.
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 13, 2020 11:17:57 GMT
The CD player and Music PC are the only two left in my system. I have Amp, Preamp and PECANPI to remove them from lol. A bit to do |
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 13, 2020 14:30:18 GMT
That's an hour I'll never get back.........
New Samsung QVO 1TB SSD arrived. I eagerly plugged it in to the laptop and......nothing.
Zip, squat...nada.
Trawling and trying every "fix" led me nowhere. Multiple attempt to even see the disk proved fruitless.
Eventually I downloaded Easy Partition Wizard and there was the SSD, in all its unpartitioned, unformatted glory.
It's now formatted and being loaded with the digital library of songs and albums I have amassed.
I hate it when things dont arrive ready to go, but I accept it could have multiple uses so likely to be sent out ready to be configured.
What a ball ache.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 15:25:22 GMT
Samsung Magician would have sorted this for you.
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 13, 2020 15:26:37 GMT
Samsung Magician would have sorted this for you. Tried it, wouldnt even find the drive!! First thing I did upon checking the leaflet |
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 13, 2020 17:49:21 GMT
So we are now all set up here with the SSD in place. I've ser up three methods of file storage, 1)SSD 2)HDD 3)Laptop via Wifi I've played the same track multiple times over the different approaches. IMO, the SSD is quite clearly smoother, HF is more Naturally delivered. There was always a little gleaned edge via the PecanPi prior to this and I can tell straight away that it's gone. Midrange guitars notes are fuller, more embodiment of the real thing and how that resonance can echo in the guitars body. Bass is also a little firmer, solid, maybe even sustains for longer. Decay is also quite clearly audible for longer. Fingers sliding in the string sound tactile, like I can feel it too. I have to say, this is very surprising to me. Sure, the wifi method sounds like utter Sh#t in general, but the HDD was great. I honestly thought the change would bring a bit of something, especially after my quick experiment but this quite marked. To me anyway. It's far more atmospheric imo, listening to Aerial boundaries now and its engulfing me in an enchanting way. Kind of like I'm on a journey somewhere and notes are appearing from everywhere. Spacial cues are quite clearly better. Soundstage has benefitted from it too. I cant swear its wider etc, but its certainly got cleaner placement of notes. Cant quite believe it. I'm gonna have to really put this through some serious listening over the next week or so.  |
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 13, 2020 21:21:41 GMT
So I spent an hour or so listening and I'm pretty convinced my initial impressions are right. I nipped to the garage and spotted an old bit if copper plate. I had a moment of daftness and decided to knock up a platform for the SSD. Its absolutely built to take the piss and reminds me of the Mars rover lol HERES WHERE THINGS GET WEIRD I plugged it back into the PecanPi and I Sh#t you not, I am sure things have "changed" if not improved The soundstage really does sound wider?? I'm lost for an explanation in all honesty and I'm not sure if I'm going a bit imaginary with it. However, I am out of time today so will experiment more over the weekend Bonkers   |
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Post by firebottle on Feb 13, 2020 21:25:10 GMT
It's all bonkers mate as we have found before.
Worth trying anything, particularly if it's lying about.
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 13, 2020 21:30:52 GMT
It's all bonkers mate as we have found before. Worth trying anything, particularly if it's lying about. Yep, I fully agree. Theres 100% an improvement from HDD to SSD, I'd bet large sums of money on being able to prove it audibly. This bloody Mars Rover platform makes no sense. Its staying though lol |
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Post by firebottle on Feb 14, 2020 9:29:16 GMT
I'll have to try something similar with my smaller capacity SSD's.
Will rummage in my scrap draw for some copper later.
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 14, 2020 15:08:19 GMT
I'll have to try something similar with my smaller capacity SSD's. Will rummage in my scrap draw for some copper later. It's well worth it. Imo anyway |
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Post by jimbo on Feb 14, 2020 18:05:59 GMT
I noticed a difference when I swapped the HDD to SSD in my Macbook Pro. There was a smoothness to the HF and a slight reduction in grain. Certainly the information (files) will be accessed quicker with less mechanical interference so it makes sense.
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 14, 2020 18:41:50 GMT
I noticed a difference when I swapped the HDD to SSD in my Macbook Pro. There was a smoothness to the HF and a slight reduction in grain. Certainly the information (files) will be accessed quicker with less mechanical interference so it makes sense. Yes Jim.....thats why i like your input. Reduction in grain is exactly what i thought but not in those words lol. Less current draw will be a big bonus too. Listening now and it has to be a mandatory requirement for me now. SSD for file based audio systems. |
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Post by sq225917 on Feb 14, 2020 18:44:11 GMT
It just makes electrical sense, especially when stacked onto a pi.
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 14, 2020 18:48:28 GMT
It just makes electrical sense, especially when stacked onto a pi. No moving parts either, which is a huge bonus. Wish i'd known about your nifty SSD Pi board though. Mega impressed lol |
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Post by jimbo on Feb 14, 2020 19:17:55 GMT
I noticed a difference when I swapped the HDD to SSD in my Macbook Pro. There was a smoothness to the HF and a slight reduction in grain. Certainly the information (files) will be accessed quicker with less mechanical interference so it makes sense. Yes Jim.....thats why i like your input. Reduction in grain is exactly what i thought but not in those words lol. Less current draw will be a big bonus too. Listening now and it has to be a mandatory requirement for me now. SSD for file based audio systems. Cheers Oli, Just been communicating with Steve and as always he has nuggets of interesting information and he mentioned that although in general SSD were better they went through more codecs to get to the end point so not absolutely straight forward, however he only uses SSDs throughout his system! |
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 14, 2020 19:59:51 GMT
Yes Jim.....thats why i like your input. Reduction in grain is exactly what i thought but not in those words lol. Less current draw will be a big bonus too. Listening now and it has to be a mandatory requirement for me now. SSD for file based audio systems. Cheers Oli, Just been communicating with Steve and as always he has nuggets of interesting information and he mentioned that although in general SSD were better they went through more codecs to get to the end point so not absolutely straight forward, however he only uses SSDs throughout his system! Yeah, ok that's a fair point but my ears like it far better than the HDD It's not expectation bias either as I did the experiment with a SSD i already own. For me, it's now mandatory |
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Post by jimbo on Feb 14, 2020 20:11:01 GMT
Interesting we both came to the same conclusion through slightly different applications and noticed an improvement.
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 14, 2020 20:12:33 GMT
Interesting we both came to the same conclusion through slightly different applications and noticed an improvement. Absolutely right. Cant argue with a unanimous accidental result lol |
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Post by macca on Feb 15, 2020 10:23:00 GMT
Cheers Oli, Just been communicating with Steve and as always he has nuggets of interesting information and he mentioned that although in general SSD were better they went through more codecs to get to the end point so not absolutely straight forward, however he only uses SSDs throughout his system! It's not expectation bias either as I did the experiment with a SSD i already own. I've got no opinion on this hard drive thing either way but thought I should point out that's not how unconscious bias works. Just because you didn't pay any extra for it won't make you immune from it, neither does expecting something to sound worse and finding it actually sounds better count for anything either. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 15, 2020 10:28:41 GMT
It's not expectation bias either as I did the experiment with a SSD i already own. I've got no opinion on this hard drive thing either way but thought I should point out that's not how unconscious bias works. Just because you didn't pay any extra for it won't make you immune from it, neither does expecting something to sound worse and finding it actually sounds better count for anything either. Ok, that's fair enough. I didn't expect anything either way though. It was an off the cuff type of scenario where i didn't want to wait an hour for volumio to update the library after i had added Liam Gallagher - Acoustic Sessions to it. I chucked it on another disk, which happened to be the SSD. After listening, i was sure i needed to do the comparison so did the side by side. It was accidental as i didn't believe there would be a difference and who wants to spend £100 on storage! Not me. That's what i was trying to say. |
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Post by macca on Feb 15, 2020 10:43:58 GMT
I've got no opinion on this hard drive thing either way but thought I should point out that's not how unconscious bias works. Just because you didn't pay any extra for it won't make you immune from it, neither does expecting something to sound worse and finding it actually sounds better count for anything either. Ok, that's fair enough. I didn't expect anything either way though. It was an off the cuff type of scenario where i didn't want to wait an hour for volumio to update the library after i had added Liam Gallagher - Acoustic Sessions to it. . lol, is he accompanied by the London Philharmonic Orchestra? Point is that it doesn't matter what you 'consciously' expect to happen, it's what you unconsciously expect to happen that matters. And you can't ever know what that is because it's unconscious. Anyways, apologies for the diversion, carry on. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 15, 2020 11:33:48 GMT
Ok, that's fair enough. I didn't expect anything either way though. It was an off the cuff type of scenario where i didn't want to wait an hour for volumio to update the library after i had added Liam Gallagher - Acoustic Sessions to it. . lol, is he accompanied by the London Philharmonic Orchestra? Point is that it doesn't matter what you 'consciously' expect to happen, it's what you unconsciously expect to happen that matters. And you can't ever know what that is because it's unconscious. Anyways, apologies for the diversion, carry on. Hahaha, no, its actually quite decent if you're ok with the scene. I am, it was my soundtrack to growing up in the 90s |
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Post by macca on Feb 15, 2020 12:03:20 GMT
Oh yeah I like Oasis and so forth. Just reminded me of that bit in 'Spinal Tap' that's all.
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 15, 2020 12:44:21 GMT
Oh yeah I like Oasis and so forth. Just reminded me of that bit in 'Spinal Tap' that's all. Hahaha, I missed the reference mate. Its actually a decent listen IMO. His new album ain't bad either. It's on fairly regular here |
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