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Post by macca on Jan 13, 2024 14:57:21 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 13, 2024 15:02:09 GMT
I think they are the original dac measurements with the single 4499. |
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Post by macca on Jan 13, 2024 15:30:44 GMT
I think they are the original dac measurements with the single 4499. No I think it is the prototype of the model you're looking at? I used Google translate so maybe that's wrong. Anyway if they can make a decent fist of that one odds on their other stuff is just as good. You know me I wouldn't worry about it. Listening right now to a Sony DAC from 1989 (R-2R!) - Pat Metheney - sounds excellent. Least important component in the system - IMV & E |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 13, 2024 16:09:30 GMT
I think they are the original dac measurements with the single 4499. No I think it is the prototype of the model you're looking at? I used Google translate so maybe that's wrong. Anyway if they can make a decent fist of that one odds on their other stuff is just as good. You know me I wouldn't worry about it. Listening right now to a Sony DAC from 1989 (R-2R!) - Pat Metheney - sounds excellent. Least important component in the system - IMV & E Defo old one. 2020 review..new one didn't come out until recently. However, yes...looks solid enough. |
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Post by macca on Jan 13, 2024 16:15:02 GMT
If I were you I'd stick with the Topping E30 and spend the savings on making a big freestanding skyline diffuser to cover those glass doors. I bet money that would give you a big gain, the DAC marginal at best.
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 13, 2024 18:25:53 GMT
If I were you I'd stick with the Topping E30 and spend the savings on making a big freestanding skyline diffuser to cover those glass doors. I bet money that would give you a big gain, the DAC marginal at best. That's already in hand and part of the plan!š |
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Post by macca on Jan 13, 2024 18:53:54 GMT
If I were you I'd stick with the Topping E30 and spend the savings on making a big freestanding skyline diffuser to cover those glass doors. I bet money that would give you a big gain, the DAC marginal at best. That's already in hand and part of the plan!š Up here for thinking, down there for dancing. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 13, 2024 19:39:55 GMT
That's already in hand and part of the plan!š Up here for thinking, down there for dancing. I bought a pair of 600x600 diffusers to build from Jerry. I am on the lookout for more, but if some used ones don't pop up, I'll just go new. The plan was to hide those doors completely, but I'll settle for 75% coverage. |
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Post by antonio on Jan 14, 2024 3:35:47 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 14, 2024 7:53:24 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 16, 2024 10:18:46 GMT
With the current upheaval of my system, i decided that I want a DAC i can trust for the time being. One i know is not going to be doing anything it shouldn't be and will allow me to assess the new setup (speakers/amp/DAC) i am creating. I considered going for an Aqvox again, but i didn't want to spend that much at the moment. I also wanted some measurements to confirm that what i have is behaving properly, so i set about ASR's DaC table for possible candidates. That proved pretty boring, and knowing the RME would be such a device, i went on a bit of a research mission I did a little reading on the RME but sill couldn't bring myself to get excited about it. Then whilst browsing eBay i found one at Ā£675. Realising it was a bit of a bargain, i decided to seriously look into the chip etc...to try and get excited by it. I found it used a AKM4497 and this again didn't quite set my soul alight, especially as i have been leaning towards trying something with 4499EQ chips, but what did spark some interest was finding a Topping D70S for sale....with TWO AKM4497 chips in. NOW...that is interesting. So, i bought the Topping, which was a really good price. That should be here this week, but there will be no critical listening to it as the speakers are not due for completion until March. Talking of speakers, i need an amplifier to power them with (partially) I decided to go for another Purifi. After hearing what the amp did in Jason's setup (Vaders, Avalon BT2, SP10, PMAT MKVIII) it would be daft not to want to try and get something near what i heard that day, Lots of different factors, i know, and totally impossible to replicate it in the fullest, but i'd settle for 50% of that sound, in this room. The Mini Vaders *should* help me to achieve that. The PCBs should be here in a day or two, along with the VTV buffers. They were sold with SPARKOS opamps, which have already been sold, and i will be replacing them with OPA1612's and a set of OPA1656 which according to Bruno is "a beautiful" sound. No idea what that means, but Opamps are easy enough to buy and swap, so why not! The fact you can build amplification of this quality for less than an Ortofon Bronze is just ridiculous, and also that you can do it without and tools, knowledge or skill means that there really is no excuse for anyone to have poor amplification. HiFi Lego...it's the future! SO, sometime in March, the new rig should be in place, and hopefully outperforming any system that has come before it in the space i have. If it does, i will be over the moon...if it doesn't, keep your eyes on the classifieds lol Link to the Topping: www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-d70s-mqa-review-dac.18728/I'll likely be using USB due to the poorer performance of SPDIF on this unit. |
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Post by mikeyb on Jan 16, 2024 10:47:35 GMT
I had those amp boards in my watch list for ages, knocked back an offer from the seller too.
I just didn't need them so I didn't counter offer.
Funny how things work out.
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 16, 2024 12:01:36 GMT
I had those amp boards in my watch list for ages, knocked back an offer from the seller too. I just didn't need them so I didn't counter offer. Funny how things work out. It is, isn't it. Selling the Sparkos have knocked the price down a significant chunk, so I'm happy about that. I already have OPA1612 and have some BrownDog adaptor boards on the way, which have been generously donated by phonomac I'm hoping to have the amplifier built in the next couple of weeks, dependent on how long the speaker terminals take to arrive. I may even do a build thread! |
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Post by stevew on Jan 16, 2024 14:04:02 GMT
br]I decided to go for another Purifi. After hearing what the amp did in Jason's setup (Vaders, Avalon BT2, SP10, PMAT MKVIII) it would be daft not to want to try and get something near what i heard that day, Lots of different factors, i know, and totally impossible to replicate it in the fullest, but i'd settle for 50% of that sound, in this room. The Mini Vaders *should* help me to achieve that. Yeah.. those Vaders. Wow. With the 686 - just great. With the Purifi- just sublime. But my, those speakers are big. Need a big room, so the mini Vaders (sorry Jason donāt know what you are naming them) hopefully will give the same immersive experience in a smaller space. |
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Post by antonio on Jan 16, 2024 16:17:57 GMT
@bigman80 "I'll likely be using USB due to the poorer performance of SPDIF on this unit."
But you like AES?
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 16, 2024 16:45:16 GMT
@bigman80 "I'll likely be using USB due to the poorer performance of SPDIF on this unit." But you like AES? I do, but this isn't a "forever" purchase. It's a "make sure everything is technically right" purchase, so USB it is for now. The onus is on ensuring the speakers are given a very technically accurate and neutral to bed in with. Then, when they have settled and I am well accustomed to what I am hearing....I'll see what, if anything, is required. |
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Post by antonio on Jan 17, 2024 1:16:43 GMT
@bigman80 I recommended a dac to you which I never expected to be a forever purchase, it has had good reports and was priced very well, yet according to your reply was discounted because of no AES, yet you then go and purchase another dac with no AES. Obviously the choice is yours, but I know which one I would have gone with, and I thought more in line with dac's you've previously owned and liked.
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 17, 2024 10:29:57 GMT
@bigman80 I recommended a dac to you which I never expected to be a forever purchase, it has had good reports and was priced very well, yet according to your reply was discounted because of no AES, yet you then go and purchase another dac with no AES. Obviously the choice is yours, but I know which one I would have gone with, and I thought more in line with dac's you've previously owned and liked. Yes Dave, you did recommend a DAC and I looked into it. However, having no AES put me off initially but there was also another reason I didn't buy it. Well, a couple actually: 1) Price. I have just dropped a significant amount of money on new speakers and I am also building a new amplifier, which I had not planned to do immediately. The DAC I bought was Ā£250, rather than the Ā£400 for the SMSL. That Ā£150 is paying for a SMPS for the Purifi build. 2) DAC chip. I clearly pointed out I'm my reasoning for buying the D70S that I was interested in AKM based DACs at the moment. The SMSL is SABRE. My exposure to Sabre DACs, including a SMSL SU-9 was not inspirational....to be honest the SU-9 was poor IMO. 3) I didn't want to buy it. This is the most important one....I didn't want to buy it, so I didnt. I am very much enjoying the sound I am getting from the Topping E30 MKII, so trying another Topping with a higher build spec seems to make more sense than diverting to a brand I havent liked so far. |
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Post by antonio on Jan 18, 2024 2:27:02 GMT
@bigman80 You didn't say any of that in reply to my recommendation, just "no AES, I like AES", in the next breath you buy a dac with no AES, what am I and other members to think?
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Post by optical on Jan 18, 2024 7:48:22 GMT
@bigman80 You didn't say any of that in reply to my recommendation, just "no AES, I like AES", in the next breath you buy a dac with no AES, what am I and other members to think? Have you informed the police?  |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 18, 2024 7:57:17 GMT
@bigman80 You didn't say any of that in reply to my recommendation, just "no AES, I like AES", in the next breath you buy a dac with no AES, what am I and other members to think? It has AES....  I have decided to use USB for now....but I DO like AES and still have the option to try AES...because it has AES. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 18, 2024 8:12:16 GMT
@bigman80 You didn't say any of that in reply to my recommendation, just "no AES, I like AES", in the next breath you buy a dac with no AES, what am I and other members to think? Have you informed the police? š |
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Post by brucew268 on Jan 18, 2024 15:18:54 GMT
@bigman80 You didn't say any of that in reply to my recommendation, just "no AES, I like AES", in the next breath you buy a dac with no AES, what am I and other members to think?  Don't tell him it's got an SMPS |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 18, 2024 15:25:31 GMT
@bigman80 You didn't say any of that in reply to my recommendation, just "no AES, I like AES", in the next breath you buy a dac with no AES, what am I and other members to think? Don't tell him it's got an SMPS šš |
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Post by antonio on Jan 18, 2024 21:32:02 GMT
@bigman80 You didn't say any of that in reply to my recommendation, just "no AES, I like AES", in the next breath you buy a dac with no AES, what am I and other members to think? Have you informed the police? Why would I do that? |
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 18, 2024 23:14:24 GMT
New DAC is here!  Typically, as soon as I buy this one, I am offered a mint OG Topping D90....which is the one I wanted and couldn't seem to find anywhere. Anyway....the D70S is quite clearly steered in a different direction to the E30II. It's sounds more "technically gifted" by which I suppose means less "musical" šš I'm joking!, I haven't done any real listening as I haven't really got the system to start analysing what I'm hearing, so for now it is here and getting settled in. |
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Post by pete on Jan 18, 2024 23:15:24 GMT
Have you informed the police?Ā Why would I do that?Ā Ā Come on everyone, this is getting a bit silly. We are all friends on here. š Iām sure no one has meant to offend anyone else. The power of AES and USB!! |
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Post by jandl100 on Jan 19, 2024 4:15:46 GMT
I like and use optical digital connections. š² I hang my head in shame.... .... but enjoy my music.  |
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Post by macca on Jan 19, 2024 6:57:47 GMT
I like and use optical digital connections. š² I hang my head in shame.... .... but enjoy my music. Coax here and the cable doesn't even have arrows on it to show which way round to connect it. It's a miracle that any sound comes out at all. |
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Post by macca on Jan 19, 2024 7:06:17 GMT
worrying about the DAC chip is like worrying about what make of processor a computer has
Don't get Intel, Excel spread sheets don't look right with it.
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Don't tell him it's got an SMPS 
