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Post by macca on Jul 24, 2022 8:14:00 GMT
I'll have a chat to him and find out more. Not sure if it adds much in a hifi experience. Although it does amplifier certain frequencies, it's certainly not to a decent audiophile quality. Thanks. Yes I can quite imagine that it will not be up to audiophile quality. It will come down to the usual of what bit rate and sampling frequency is being used. There will, by its nature, have to be compromises made. But maybe we will be surprised and find it will be at Redbook standard or better. Certainly adc/dac chips have come on leaps and bounds in recent years. I think it will be the loudspeakers in the hearing aids that will be the bottleneck, not the ADC/DAC process. |
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Post by edward on Jul 24, 2022 12:29:34 GMT
Thanks. Yes I can quite imagine that it will not be up to audiophile quality. It will come down to the usual of what bit rate and sampling frequency is being used. There will, by its nature, have to be compromises made. But maybe we will be surprised and find it will be at Redbook standard or better. Certainly adc/dac chips have come on leaps and bounds in recent years. I think it will be the loudspeakers in the hearing aids that will be the bottleneck, not the ADC/DAC process. Indeed Martin. You are correct. Several hail Mary's for me.  |
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Post by pete on Jul 24, 2022 12:44:35 GMT
I have read this with interest and thought I would add my experience of hearing loss and use of hearing aid.
I have an NHS hearing aid for my left ear only. I have moderate hearing loss, in higher frequencies. In normal, day to day stuff I don't notice a problem, fine in the pub, having conversations with mates, out and about etc. Because of this I don't wear it all of the time. However, when I put it in I am aware of much improved clarity and hearing in my left ear.
So, how does this relate to listening to music at home... ?
In my previous system, very Naim heavy, (so quite boosted in higher frequencies!) I was always aware of a drop of in hearing high frequencies in my left ear. Part of my hearing loss is due to a eustachian tube issue, equalising pressure in my ear helps improve things somewhat, and made sound in both ears appear similar, however, in a matter of minutes I had the blockage again. Putting the hearing aid in balanced perceived sounds in both ears. I have the aid set up so that it does not block all sounds, it augments what I can hear, boosting the higher frequencies, so that I hear them at a similar level to other frequencies. Other frequencies are heard as normal by my ear. Because I am only having these frequencies boosted the overall sound quality is good, at least as good, if not better than when I equalise the pressure in my ear. Is it as good as my other ear? Not far off I recon.
With my current system, which I must say more about at some point, things are very different. Probably because its does not have the Naim 'sound' of exaggerated HF, I don't really notice my hearing loss and don't feel the need to wear the aids, but when I do put them in I get all the improvements in clarity I had before.
So, in summary, for possible future hearing aid users, I would say there is hope out there! Appreciate my experience is not the same as everyone. Give the aids a go and see what you may be missing, you can always not wear them when listening to music if that sounds better to you. The aid does not work like wearing headphones ,but just boosts what is needed.
The NHS treated me, and were brilliant, as always.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 24, 2022 14:26:28 GMT
I think it will be the loudspeakers in the hearing aids that will be the bottleneck, not the ADC/DAC process. Indeed Martin. You are correct. Several hail Mary's for me. I wonder if it's possible to get a hearing aid device with Bluetooth or a jack socket output, so a nice pair of wireless audiophile IEMs could be plugged in? |
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Post by Pigmy Pony on Jul 24, 2022 14:54:31 GMT
I reckon you can't go wrong with one of those big trumpets as often seen in comics. No bit rates to worry about, just a tired arm.
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Post by Pigmy Pony on Jul 24, 2022 15:06:56 GMT
I have read this with interest and thought I would add my experience of hearing loss and use of hearing aid. I have an NHS hearing aid for my left ear only. I have moderate hearing loss, in higher frequencies. In normal, day to day stuff I don't notice a problem, fine in the pub, having conversations with mates, out and about etc. Because of this I don't wear it all of the time. However, when I put it in I am aware of much improved clarity and hearing in my left ear. So, how does this relate to listening to music at home... ? In my previous system, very Naim heavy, (so quite boosted in higher frequencies!) I was always aware of a drop of in hearing high frequencies in my left ear. Part of my hearing loss is due to a eustachian tube issue, equalising pressure in my ear helps improve things somewhat, and made sound in both ears appear similar, however, in a matter of minutes I had the blockage again. Putting the hearing aid in balanced perceived sounds in both ears. I have the aid set up so that it does not block all sounds, it augments what I can hear, boosting the higher frequencies, so that I hear them at a similar level to other frequencies. Other frequencies are heard as normal by my ear. Because I am only having these frequencies boosted the overall sound quality is good, at least as good, if not better than when I equalise the pressure in my ear. Is it as good as my other ear? Not far off I recon. With my current system, which I must say more about at some point, things are very different. Probably because its does not have the Naim 'sound' of exaggerated HF, I don't really notice my hearing loss and don't feel the need to wear the aids, but when I do put them in I get all the improvements in clarity I had before. So, in summary, for possible future hearing aid users, I would say there is hope out there! Appreciate my experience is not the same as everyone. Give the aids a go and see what you may be missing, you can always not wear them when listening to music if that sounds better to you. The aid does not work like wearing headphones ,but just boosts what is needed. The NHS treated me, and were brilliant, as always. A heartening story Pete, certainly sounds like it's worth pursuing. And I look forward to seeing what Dave (Antonio) thinks of his. Just out of curiosity, what would you say brought the biggest improvement in sq? Getting the hearing aid, or selling the Naim gear? |
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Post by pete on Jul 24, 2022 15:10:22 GMT
I have read this with interest and thought I would add my experience of hearing loss and use of hearing aid. I have an NHS hearing aid for my left ear only. I have moderate hearing loss, in higher frequencies. In normal, day to day stuff I don't notice a problem, fine in the pub, having conversations with mates, out and about etc. Because of this I don't wear it all of the time. However, when I put it in I am aware of much improved clarity and hearing in my left ear. So, how does this relate to listening to music at home... ? In my previous system, very Naim heavy, (so quite boosted in higher frequencies!) I was always aware of a drop of in hearing high frequencies in my left ear. Part of my hearing loss is due to a eustachian tube issue, equalising pressure in my ear helps improve things somewhat, and made sound in both ears appear similar, however, in a matter of minutes I had the blockage again. Putting the hearing aid in balanced perceived sounds in both ears. I have the aid set up so that it does not block all sounds, it augments what I can hear, boosting the higher frequencies, so that I hear them at a similar level to other frequencies. Other frequencies are heard as normal by my ear. Because I am only having these frequencies boosted the overall sound quality is good, at least as good, if not better than when I equalise the pressure in my ear. Is it as good as my other ear? Not far off I recon. With my current system, which I must say more about at some point, things are very different. Probably because its does not have the Naim 'sound' of exaggerated HF, I don't really notice my hearing loss and don't feel the need to wear the aids, but when I do put them in I get all the improvements in clarity I had before. So, in summary, for possible future hearing aid users, I would say there is hope out there! Appreciate my experience is not the same as everyone. Give the aids a go and see what you may be missing, you can always not wear them when listening to music if that sounds better to you. The aid does not work like wearing headphones ,but just boosts what is needed. The NHS treated me, and were brilliant, as always. A heartening story Pete, certainly sounds like it's worth pursuing. And I look forward to seeing what Dave (Antonio) thinks of his. Just out of curiosity, what would you say brought the biggest improvement in sq? Getting the hearing aid, or selling the Naim gear? Haha, thought someone may have picked up on that sooner! Amazing how the Naim gear made the hearing loss so clear. I guess if your HF is down and you are hearing loads of it in one ear it makes you really aware of it. |
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Post by macca on Jul 24, 2022 16:45:31 GMT
I have read this with interest and thought I would add my experience of hearing loss and use of hearing aid. I have an NHS hearing aid for my left ear only. I have moderate hearing loss, in higher frequencies. In normal, day to day stuff I don't notice a problem, fine in the pub, having conversations with mates, out and about etc. Because of this I don't wear it all of the time. However, when I put it in I am aware of much improved clarity and hearing in my left ear. So, how does this relate to listening to music at home... ? In my previous system, very Naim heavy, (so quite boosted in higher frequencies!) I was always aware of a drop of in hearing high frequencies in my left ear. Part of my hearing loss is due to a eustachian tube issue, equalising pressure in my ear helps improve things somewhat, and made sound in both ears appear similar, however, in a matter of minutes I had the blockage again. Think I have the same issue also in left ear. Can they not fix this Eustachian thingy? |
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Post by antonio on Jul 24, 2022 17:08:27 GMT
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Post by Pigmy Pony on Jul 24, 2022 18:04:31 GMT
I have read this with interest and thought I would add my experience of hearing loss and use of hearing aid. I have an NHS hearing aid for my left ear only. I have moderate hearing loss, in higher frequencies. In normal, day to day stuff I don't notice a problem, fine in the pub, having conversations with mates, out and about etc. Because of this I don't wear it all of the time. However, when I put it in I am aware of much improved clarity and hearing in my left ear. So, how does this relate to listening to music at home... ? In my previous system, very Naim heavy, (so quite boosted in higher frequencies!) I was always aware of a drop of in hearing high frequencies in my left ear. Part of my hearing loss is due to a eustachian tube issue, equalising pressure in my ear helps improve things somewhat, and made sound in both ears appear similar, however, in a matter of minutes I had the blockage again. Think I have the same issue also in left ear. Can they not fix this Eustachian thingy? Hmm, my issue is also with my left ear. And unfortunately the seating plan in my lounge is such that the hifi is on my left side, while Mrs. P is to my right. Completely the wrong way round  |
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Post by pete on Jul 24, 2022 18:54:02 GMT
I have read this with interest and thought I would add my experience of hearing loss and use of hearing aid. I have an NHS hearing aid for my left ear only. I have moderate hearing loss, in higher frequencies. In normal, day to day stuff I don't notice a problem, fine in the pub, having conversations with mates, out and about etc. Because of this I don't wear it all of the time. However, when I put it in I am aware of much improved clarity and hearing in my left ear. So, how does this relate to listening to music at home... ? In my previous system, very Naim heavy, (so quite boosted in higher frequencies!) I was always aware of a drop of in hearing high frequencies in my left ear. Part of my hearing loss is due to a eustachian tube issue, equalising pressure in my ear helps improve things somewhat, and made sound in both ears appear similar, however, in a matter of minutes I had the blockage again. Think I have the same issue also in left ear. Can they not fix this Eustachian thingy? If you read online there seems to be some sort of procedure that can be done, the consultant didn't mention it though. When I see him next think I will mention it.. although, delays for appointments mean that could be about 2030 |
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Post by pete on Jul 24, 2022 18:55:06 GMT
Think I have the same issue also in left ear. Can they not fix this Eustachian thingy? Hmm, my issue is also with my left ear. And unfortunately the seating plan in my lounge is such that the hifi is on my left side, while Mrs. P is to my right. Completely the wrong way round What have we all done to our left ear??! |
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Post by Arke on Jul 24, 2022 19:06:39 GMT
I have read this with interest and thought I would add my experience of hearing loss and use of hearing aid. I have an NHS hearing aid for my left ear only. I have moderate hearing loss, in higher frequencies. In normal, day to day stuff I don't notice a problem, fine in the pub, having conversations with mates, out and about etc. Because of this I don't wear it all of the time. However, when I put it in I am aware of much improved clarity and hearing in my left ear. So, how does this relate to listening to music at home... ? In my previous system, very Naim heavy, (so quite boosted in higher frequencies!) I was always aware of a drop of in hearing high frequencies in my left ear. Part of my hearing loss is due to a eustachian tube issue, equalising pressure in my ear helps improve things somewhat, and made sound in both ears appear similar, however, in a matter of minutes I had the blockage again. Putting the hearing aid in balanced perceived sounds in both ears. I have the aid set up so that it does not block all sounds, it augments what I can hear, boosting the higher frequencies, so that I hear them at a similar level to other frequencies. Other frequencies are heard as normal by my ear. Because I am only having these frequencies boosted the overall sound quality is good, at least as good, if not better than when I equalise the pressure in my ear. Is it as good as my other ear? Not far off I recon. With my current system, which I must say more about at some point, things are very different. Probably because its does not have the Naim 'sound' of exaggerated HF, I don't really notice my hearing loss and don't feel the need to wear the aids, but when I do put them in I get all the improvements in clarity I had before. So, in summary, for possible future hearing aid users, I would say there is hope out there! Appreciate my experience is not the same as everyone. Give the aids a go and see what you may be missing, you can always not wear them when listening to music if that sounds better to you. The aid does not work like wearing headphones ,but just boosts what is needed. The NHS treated me, and were brilliant, as always. I loved the sound of a Naim system when I had 2 bad ear wax blockages! The extra hf sounded pretty balanced. The (£150k) Naim/B&W system at Cranage sounded way to fwd and bright for me. Just shows money doesn't buy happiness in a system. |
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Post by macca on Jul 24, 2022 19:49:01 GMT
Think I have the same issue also in left ear. Can they not fix this Eustachian thingy? If you read online there seems to be some sort of procedure that can be done, the consultant didn't mention it though. When I see him next think I will mention it.. although, delays for appointments mean that could be about 2030 I know someone whose father is an ENR consultant, I might see if I can chuck him a few bob and jump the queue. Doesn't bother me all the time but it's slowly getting worse. Don't know why it's all left ears. Dodgy batch? |
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Post by Arke on Jul 24, 2022 20:17:17 GMT
If you read online there seems to be some sort of procedure that can be done, the consultant didn't mention it though. When I see him next think I will mention it.. although, delays for appointments mean that could be about 2030 I know someone whose father is an ENR consultant, I might see if I can chuck him a few bob and jump the queue. Doesn't bother me all the time but it's slowly getting worse. Don't know why it's all left ears. Dodgy batch? I recently had ear wax removed from left ear. It had been blocked for a year and was a revelation on music. So much detail I'd be missing. Hope you get yours sorted |
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Post by lurch on Jul 24, 2022 20:18:36 GMT
It's coz we tend to keep wenchs on the left, so that's the ear that gets all the flak.
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Post by Pigmy Pony on Jul 25, 2022 6:01:43 GMT
I know someone whose father is an ENR consultant, I might see if I can chuck him a few bob and jump the queue.Doesn't bother me all the time but it's slowly getting worse. Don't know why it's all left ears. Dodgy batch? Bribery? I'll pretend I didn't hear that |
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Post by Pigmy Pony on Jul 25, 2022 6:06:25 GMT
I have read this with interest and thought I would add my experience of hearing loss and use of hearing aid. I have an NHS hearing aid for my left ear only. I have moderate hearing loss, in higher frequencies. In normal, day to day stuff I don't notice a problem, fine in the pub, having conversations with mates, out and about etc. Because of this I don't wear it all of the time. However, when I put it in I am aware of much improved clarity and hearing in my left ear. So, how does this relate to listening to music at home... ? In my previous system, very Naim heavy, (so quite boosted in higher frequencies!) I was always aware of a drop of in hearing high frequencies in my left ear. Part of my hearing loss is due to a eustachian tube issue, equalising pressure in my ear helps improve things somewhat, and made sound in both ears appear similar, however, in a matter of minutes I had the blockage again. Putting the hearing aid in balanced perceived sounds in both ears. I have the aid set up so that it does not block all sounds, it augments what I can hear, boosting the higher frequencies, so that I hear them at a similar level to other frequencies. Other frequencies are heard as normal by my ear. Because I am only having these frequencies boosted the overall sound quality is good, at least as good, if not better than when I equalise the pressure in my ear. Is it as good as my other ear? Not far off I recon. With my current system, which I must say more about at some point, things are very different. Probably because its does not have the Naim 'sound' of exaggerated HF, I don't really notice my hearing loss and don't feel the need to wear the aids, but when I do put them in I get all the improvements in clarity I had before. So, in summary, for possible future hearing aid users, I would say there is hope out there! Appreciate my experience is not the same as everyone. Give the aids a go and see what you may be missing, you can always not wear them when listening to music if that sounds better to you. The aid does not work like wearing headphones ,but just boosts what is needed. The NHS treated me, and were brilliant, as always. I loved the sound of a Naim system when I had 2 bad ear wax blockages! The extra hf sounded pretty balanced. The (£150k) Naim/B&W system at Cranage sounded way to fwd and bright for me. Just shows money doesn't buy happiness in a system. That's so true - happiest holiday I ever had was with my Prinz cassette recorder and just Temptations Greatest hits and Autobahn to play on it. |
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Post by hifinutt on Feb 12, 2023 16:50:54 GMT
just enjoying this wonderful video of the kensingtons ... one day just might get a pair to upgrade the eatons
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Post by hifinutt on Apr 21, 2024 14:09:07 GMT
nice to see Tannoy at heathrow show today , 24 mins in
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Post by hifinutt on May 9, 2024 20:15:17 GMT
a chap was using aperta 300 stands under his eatons so i bought them off him . they do raise them up a bit , but i would say they are an improvement over the standard iso pucks i have used for 5 years now . They were pretty magical before but this has just lifted their perfomance a bit . listening to Stacy Kent Dreamsville it was just really compelling and realism in spades . I once had a ref 5se as a pre amp which was superb and its getting near the performance of that system for sure . highly recommended if anyone wants to try some the sax on this album very beguiling and real . Playing Gert Emmens mysteries of dawn [ one of his latest and best] just transports you .  P1080571 by , on Flickr  P1080574 by , on Flickr |
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Post by hifinutt on May 16, 2024 14:21:18 GMT
the super gold at Munich looks good
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