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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 13, 2022 21:33:38 GMT
......i decided that i may sell my still unused Windfeld.
Discuss, Convince me to, or not to!
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Post by robbiegong on Mar 13, 2022 22:54:41 GMT
......i decided that i may sell my still unused Windfeld.  Blimey O'Riley ! That's a shock ! Why ? What are you looking to fund ? |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 13, 2022 23:01:38 GMT
......i decided that i may sell my still unused Windfeld. Blimey O'Riley ! That's a shock ! Why ? What are you looking to fund ? You know what Rob, I just am not using it. I've got vinyl sat in the wrapper that I have bought and haven't even opened. The cart is stunning. I took it to Angus' a few weeks back to compare it to his. Wow.....what a great sound. We played two tracks of a mint LP, we took it off and it's been in the carrier since. I have probably done three tracks in total and 20 minutes on a burn in LP....but I just don't want to use it. It's almost like a mental block. No point having it if I can't get past it, and I haven't managed to since I bought it. To be honest, not having the 686 built is another factor I think. I am very reluctant to use vinyl when I'm using a substandard amp. Whilst it's bloody good, it ain't 686 good. Dunno, thinking I might just get an Ortofon 2M black LVB as I know I'd play with it till it died. I'm still pondering, but I feel more towards flogging it. We'll see. |
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Post by robbiegong on Mar 13, 2022 23:13:45 GMT
I actually do get it Oli It's a funny game this and If you're not rolling in dosh, these are the types of decisions you'll make from time to time - been there.
You know how badly I wanted to go from my excellent Spendor D7 to D7.2, then I kind of woke up, as in, slow down Robbie boy, do you really need to go there ? You thoroughly enjoy the D7's big time and dont have the money - £1.5K approx, you'll need to put on top of what you may have got for them, for a quoted subtle change-revised version, which I probs 95% already have, and may even prefer - nah! and I'm still lovin' the music/system.
Waking up was good, I will no longer spend money I actually dont have, and if I do it wont be to duplicate, so I'd look to something else that would hopefully add proper value/improvement ie: a genuine upgrade phono stage.
I loved my 2MB to bits, as you know, and dont doubt the LVB will be excellent !
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 13, 2022 23:45:19 GMT
I actually do get it Oli It's a funny game this and If you're not rolling in dosh, these are the types of decisions you'll make from time to time - been there. You know how badly I wanted to go from my excellent Spendor D7 to D7.2, then I kind of woke up, as in, slow down Robbie boy, do you really need to go there ? You thoroughly enjoy the D7's big time and dont have the money - £1.5K approx, you'll need to put on top of what you may have got for them, for a quoted subtle change-revised version, which I probs 95% already have, and may even prefer - nah! and I'm still lovin' the music/system. Waking up was good, I will no longer spend money I actually dont have, and if I do it wont be to duplicate, so I'd look to something else that would hopefully add proper value/improvement ie: a genuine upgrade phono stage. I loved my 2MB to bits, as you know, and dont doubt the LVB will be excellent ! Thing is, those spendors wouldn't require replacing after 1000 hours which I have done in under a year before now. And at £1500ish, per go for repair work at Ortofon, it's not gonna be going in to be repaired. That's where my brain is stuck at the minute, and I can't get past it. Haven't been able to since it arrived. I love the sq, I don't love the ownership and running repair costs. |
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Post by robbiegong on Mar 14, 2022 0:00:49 GMT
I actually do get it Oli It's a funny game this and If you're not rolling in dosh, these are the types of decisions you'll make from time to time - been there. You know how badly I wanted to go from my excellent Spendor D7 to D7.2, then I kind of woke up, as in, slow down Robbie boy, do you really need to go there ? You thoroughly enjoy the D7's big time and dont have the money - £1.5K approx, you'll need to put on top of what you may have got for them, for a quoted subtle change-revised version, which I probs 95% already have, and may even prefer - nah! and I'm still lovin' the music/system. Waking up was good, I will no longer spend money I actually dont have, and if I do it wont be to duplicate, so I'd look to something else that would hopefully add proper value/improvement ie: a genuine upgrade phono stage. I loved my 2MB to bits, as you know, and dont doubt the LVB will be excellent ! Thing is, those spendors wouldn't require replacing after 1000 hours which I have done in under a year before now. And at £1500ish, per go for repair work at Ortofon, it's not gonna be going in to be repaired. That's where my brain is stuck at the minute, and I can't get past it. Haven't been able to since it arrived. I love the sq, I don't love the ownership and running repair costs. I hear that big time Olster, I have similar thoughts about my Cadenza Black-FGS, re when it wears and how am I gonna afford to replace it ? And then I just enjoy every minute of it, cause thats life, music is my passion and pleasure so it will keep on bringing joy til such time, otherwise whats the point |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 1:16:18 GMT
I actually do get it Oli It's a funny game this and If you're not rolling in dosh, these are the types of decisions you'll make from time to time - been there. You know how badly I wanted to go from my excellent Spendor D7 to D7.2, then I kind of woke up, as in, slow down Robbie boy, do you really need to go there ? You thoroughly enjoy the D7's big time and dont have the money - £1.5K approx, you'll need to put on top of what you may have got for them, for a quoted subtle change-revised version, which I probs 95% already have, and may even prefer - nah! and I'm still lovin' the music/system. Waking up was good, I will no longer spend money I actually dont have, and if I do it wont be to duplicate, so I'd look to something else that would hopefully add proper value/improvement ie: a genuine upgrade phono stage. I loved my 2MB to bits, as you know, and dont doubt the LVB will be excellent ! Thing is, those spendors wouldn't require replacing after 1000 hours which I have done in under a year before now. And at £1500ish, per go for repair work at Ortofon, it's not gonna be going in to be repaired. That's where my brain is stuck at the minute, and I can't get past it. Haven't been able to since it arrived. I love the sq, I don't love the ownership and running repair costs.  |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 14, 2022 5:50:17 GMT
Thing is, those spendors wouldn't require replacing after 1000 hours which I have done in under a year before now. And at £1500ish, per go for repair work at Ortofon, it's not gonna be going in to be repaired. That's where my brain is stuck at the minute, and I can't get past it. Haven't been able to since it arrived. I love the sq, I don't love the ownership and running repair costs. Didn't say I was happy about it 🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 6:07:22 GMT
You have spent the last few years building up to this. Now you have one, you are scared to use it.
That was exactly my point about a high end MC.
Your arm has a removable head shell? If so, set up a good cartridge on one, and the Winnie on another.
Use it for special listening sessions.
I am still not convinced the 2MB LVB is value for money, compared to an EPC-205 with a Jico SAS.
I would like to hear one, and then put it up against my AT150MLx, the AT20SS or the Technics.
The AT150 cost me £100, The AT20 about £250 and the Technics with Jico SAS about £200.
Either will give the rather expensive LVB a run for it’s money.
I am also sure that the Ultime is not optimised for MM? If so, that is another reason to keep the Winnie.
You don’t need to use it every day. I use my DV XX2 MkII occasionally, when I am alone at home, and there is not a lot of background noise.
You will regret selling it. It is something you have wanted for a long time.
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Post by jimbo on Mar 14, 2022 7:25:34 GMT
My advice Oli for what its worth would be to keep the Windfeld and buy a 2M LBV.
Difficult to find a Windfeld at that price again and you can just use it as a reference to remind you just how good Vinyl can be. Play it once a month or so and you could get 10 years out of it or more.
Use the 2M as a daily runner.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 14, 2022 7:52:33 GMT
Both very good points actually.
The BBu is optimised for MM, moreso than the BB3 was, and the Avalon is too, so running MM is a real option these days.
Maybe I'll get a daily runner and break the Winny out for special occasions.
Thanks for the input gentlemen.
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Post by electronumpty on Mar 14, 2022 8:55:16 GMT
Both very good points actually. The BBu is optimised for MM, moreso than the BB3 was, and the Avalon is too, so running MM is a real option these days. Maybe I'll get a daily runner and break the Winny out for special occasions. Thanks for the input gentlemen. Just stick it in the fridge and forgeddaboutit. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 14, 2022 9:17:47 GMT
Both very good points actually. The BBu is optimised for MM, moreso than the BB3 was, and the Avalon is too, so running MM is a real option these days. Maybe I'll get a daily runner and break the Winny out for special occasions. Thanks for the input gentlemen. Just stick it in the fridge and forgeddaboutit. Yeah, I may do |
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Post by stevew on Mar 14, 2022 10:04:18 GMT
My advice Oli for what its worth would be to keep the Windfeld and buy a 2M LBV. Difficult to find a Windfeld at that price again and you can just use it as a reference to remind you just how good Vinyl can be. Play it once a month or so and you could get 10 years out of it or more. Use the 2M as a daily runner. Yeah… couldn’t agree more. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 10:38:06 GMT
Just stick it in the fridge and forgeddaboutit. Yeah, I may do Winnie on toast? |
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Post by stevew on Mar 14, 2022 10:41:54 GMT
I’ve thought a lot about what I’d do when my Ortofon/Vienetta dies.
It’s all down to funds isn’t it?
Think for now I’ll ration use, I’m swapping an old at OC9, which isn’t too shabby as it turns out.
Then any major funds down the line will be put elsewhere
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Post by macca on Mar 14, 2022 11:15:21 GMT
sell all the vinyl paraphernalia and fully embrace the dark side. Vinyl replay is just a money pit.
Keep the records though as they seem to double in value every 5 years or so, better investment than property.
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Post by pete on Mar 14, 2022 11:20:37 GMT
All good points. I would say you never know what is going to happen down the line. You may come into money or you may be broke, but best time to deal with that is when it happens, it is impossible to predict.
When I was privileged enough to hear the Windfeld I instantly knew what the fuss was about. It is an amazing thing, but I could, and will listen to music with a lesser (but still great) cartridge. SO I would agree with what others say keep and use sparingly. I guess it is not as easy as swapping headshells now on the Phat Mk8.
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Post by robbiegong on Mar 14, 2022 11:47:12 GMT
All good points. I would say you never know what is going to happen down the line. You may come into money or you may be broke, but best time to deal with that is when it happens, it is impossible to predict. When I was privileged enough to hear the Windfeld I instantly knew what the fuss was about. It is an amazing thing, but I could, and will listen to music with a lesser (but still great) cartridge. SO I would agree with what others say keep and use sparingly. I guess it is not as easy as swapping headshells now on the Phat Mk8. That's how i see it too Pete, no idea what tomorrow brings, and that dosh may materialise, enjoy things now whilst one can, that's what life is about. Btw - Once the Shibata on your CB wears, if you can have it re-tipped with the FGS, you'll be in for a treat, I seriously imagine it will be as close as to the Windfeld, It's a genuine upgrade over the stock CB, so something to look forward to. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 14, 2022 12:53:18 GMT
All good points. I would say you never know what is going to happen down the line. You may come into money or you may be broke, but best time to deal with that is when it happens, it is impossible to predict. When I was privileged enough to hear the Windfeld I instantly knew what the fuss was about. It is an amazing thing, but I could, and will listen to music with a lesser (but still great) cartridge. SO I would agree with what others say keep and use sparingly. I guess it is not as easy as swapping headshells now on the Phat Mk8. Nope, that's very true. I must just embrace the dark side 🤣 |
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Post by misterc on Mar 14, 2022 13:19:27 GMT
Thankfully my cartridge gets so little use its not going to wear out, or accidentally get damaged, as customers are politely reminded that its pretty difficult to cue up a cartridge with a disolated shoudler, and wrist in plaster is no easy task. Always good to have back up catridge you break out to keep the obession happy. With so many ham fisted snowflakes attempting to cue up an arm and wondering why pressing a button on their phone doesn't acheieve this it's a very wise practice.
Personally I have three carts only, one nice one, one good one and basic Benz glider. In the last 15 years zero damage or mishaps.
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Post by lurch on Mar 14, 2022 13:41:27 GMT
Must admit I'm not looking forward to the replacement/repair cost for my Koetsu RSP when the time comes. Bought it for a bargain price (£1500 with 700 hrs) but being a 2005 model it rides a bit low due I suspect to ageing suspension so only a full factory rebuild at circa £2.5k will sort it. Though at an RRP of £6k that would still bring it in at 2/3 of a new one.
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Post by pete on Mar 14, 2022 13:43:08 GMT
Thankfully my cartridge gets so little use its not going to wear out, or accidentally get damaged, as customers are politely reminded that its pretty difficult to cue up a cartridge with a disolated shoudler, and wrist in plaster is no easy task. Always good to have back up catridge you break out to keep the obession happy. With so many ham fisted snowflakes attempting to cue up an arm and wondering why pressing a button on their phone doesn't acheieve this it's a very wise practic.
Personally I have three carts only, one nice one, one good one and basic Benz glider. In the last 15 years zero damage or mishaps.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 14, 2022 13:44:24 GMT
Must admit I'm not looking forward to the replacement/repair cost for my Koetsu RSP when the time comes. Bought it for a bargain price (£1500 with 700 hrs) but being a 2005 model it rides a bit low due I suspect to ageing suspension so only a full factory rebuild at circa £2.5k will sort it. Though at an RRP of £6k that would still bring it in at 2/3 of a new one. I have decided to look at a Goldring 2300-2500 series and see what is in offer. Moving iron, so more like a MC in terms of detail etc (IIRC) but generate a big dynamic like MM, which I really like. I'm getting off the gravy train of MC carts. I've decided. |
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Post by misterc on Mar 14, 2022 13:47:21 GMT
For myself low output MM's offer the best reproduction imho
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 14:28:09 GMT
Personally, I really like my Catridge Man music maker. Bought during the first confinement for a bargain price 2nd hand.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 14, 2022 14:30:22 GMT
For myself low output MM's offer the best reproduction imho Any recommendations? |
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Post by misterc on Mar 14, 2022 14:34:37 GMT
Not the audio note IO its just to safe despite the folowing it has on ceratin internet spaces.
Benz LPS is a good starting point a really nice musically engaging sound it just starts to get right out of the way
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Post by macca on Mar 14, 2022 14:51:50 GMT
Benz LPs is an MC cartridge?
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Post by macca on Mar 14, 2022 14:55:26 GMT
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Blimey O'Riley ! That's a shock ! 
