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Post by antonio on Dec 5, 2021 10:49:36 GMT
Came across this today, sold by Lotus HiFi, made by a very well thought of hi end amplification manufacturer www.thraxaudio.com/yatrus |
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Post by macca on Dec 5, 2021 11:02:36 GMT
I like the 'Technical Specification' - weight, dimensions, what speeds it goes round at.
All you need to know.
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Post by stevew on Dec 5, 2021 12:08:12 GMT
£15k with the arm. Ouch
£600 you can have my Kenwood kd750 with AT 0C9 attached.
That goes round and round
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Post by macca on Dec 5, 2021 12:39:28 GMT
I love the KD750 but it's no use to me as when my rich mates come round they will just see some old 1970s tat (was it late 70s or early 80s?).
Doesn't have the cachet you see, except to anyone who really does know something about hi-fi.
Like the bloke who came round once with one of my mates, sees my system and tells me, no beating about the bush mind, 'Technics SL1200 is a DJ deck it's not proper hi-fi.'
So I put 'ZZ Top's First Album' on for him and after that he had nothing more to say on the subject.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2021 14:54:30 GMT
You confirmed his thought?
Yes, this is tongue in cheek as I love my SL1200.
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Post by stevew on Dec 5, 2021 15:18:07 GMT
I love the KD750 but it's no use to me as when my rich mates come round they will just see some old 1970s tat (was it late 70s or early 80s?). Doesn't have the cachet you see, except to anyone who really does know something about hi-fi. Like the bloke who came round once with one of my mates, sees my system and tells me, no beating about the bush mind, 'Technics SL1200 is a DJ deck it's not proper hi-fi.' So I put 'ZZ Top's First Album' on for him and after that he had nothing more to say on the subject. Funny old world. I bought the Kenwood long ago from Hugo/Shuggie (of Ammonite but long before he got into that) I’d got it to front a second system. At the time I had a Linn Sondek. What’s that expression? The KD750 blew the LP12 out the water. I was very happy to sell the Linn for what people thought it was worth. |
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Post by macca on Dec 5, 2021 16:31:22 GMT
I liked the original LP12 with the bouncy bass - before they started messing with it. That was what it's reputation was founded on, that bouncy bass. Everyone liked that. Then they had to start pissing about with it making it more 'accurate'. Chucked the baby out with the bathwater. Now it's just an expensive cult/fetish item.
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Post by rexton on Dec 5, 2021 19:33:25 GMT
This one is not for me. Don't like the aesthetics.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 5, 2021 19:55:02 GMT
I am going to place a heavy wager on the fact its speed accuracy measurements are w@nk.
Why else wouldnt you shout it from the rooftops. Good looking TT though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2021 20:03:43 GMT
The tolerance on the tone arm fitting is a bit slack.
I mean, +/- 20mm?
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Post by lurch on Dec 5, 2021 20:10:51 GMT
That's to allow for the saddos who insist on buying Linn geometry tonearms, as it allows for a 212mm P to S distance.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 5, 2021 20:13:17 GMT
Technics SP10R
These improvements achieved stable rotation of 0.015% wow and flutter or less, which is considered to be the measurement limit
It's not cheap, but it's what i'd buy!
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Post by robbiegong on Dec 5, 2021 20:16:41 GMT
Technics SP10R These improvements achieved stable rotation of 0.015% wow and flutter or less, which is considered to be the measurement limit It's not cheap, but it's what i'd buy! Me too, the only one. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 5, 2021 20:28:06 GMT
Technics SP10R These improvements achieved stable rotation of 0.015% wow and flutter or less, which is considered to be the measurement limit It's not cheap, but it's what i'd buy! Me too, the only one. There's a brand new one on emporium for £8K......If only |
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Post by macca on Dec 5, 2021 20:29:36 GMT
So many people think the SL1200 was designed for DJing but it was actually designed to do the same job as the SP10.
Technics introduced it as an alternative for broadcast studios where the SP10 was either too expensive for the budget, or would be overkill.
That's why it has professional build quality and gets up to speed so quick. No such thing as DJing as we know it now when it first came out.
When club DJing became a thing they started using them for the same reason bank robbers used Mk2 Jags, best available tool for the job - but not specifically designed for that job.
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Post by robbiegong on Dec 5, 2021 21:03:58 GMT
There's a brand new one on emporium for £8K......If only Yeah saw that, lovely just add your own Panza' plinth and tonearm and extremely happy days. Soundstage hifi have a complete ex-dem SL1000R - plinth, tonearm etc (except for headshell) , £9,999 - that's a big saving on new - bet they'd take £9k if it was offered - I would if I had it. |
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Post by rexton on Dec 5, 2021 21:14:27 GMT
I'd have the lastest SP10R but I'm honestly really happy with my lot. I just can't seeing me buying another "statement" TT. My 1210 does everything that I ask and I'd quite happily put my 1210 up against any SP10, I think it would hold it's own.
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Post by robbiegong on Dec 5, 2021 21:34:44 GMT
I'd have the latest SP10R but I'm honestly really happy with my lot. I just can't seeing me buying another "statement" TT. My 1210 does everything that I ask and I'd quite happily put my 1210 up against any SP10, I think it would hold it's own. Exactly how I feel too Andy, I have no intention of ever letting this SP10 of mine go - I love it ! |
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Post by rexton on Dec 5, 2021 21:43:35 GMT
I'd have the latest SP10R but I'm honestly really happy with my lot. I just can't seeing me buying another "statement" TT. My 1210 does everything that I ask and I'd quite happily put my 1210 up against any SP10, I think it would hold it's own. Exactly how I feel too Andy, I have no intention of ever letting this SP10 of mine go - I love it ! Excellent, pleased for you mate! |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 5, 2021 21:49:51 GMT
I'd have the lastest SP10R but I'm honestly really happy with my lot. I just can't seeing me buying another "statement" TT. My 1210 does everything that I ask and I'd quite happily put my 1210 up against any SP10, I think it would hold it's own. We can do that. SP10 MK2 & PMAT1010 MK8 vS 1210 and SME V? Sounds good to me. |
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Post by rexton on Dec 5, 2021 21:54:02 GMT
My 1210 has only ever been away from home once in it's life and that was to South Uist when Paul Haynes (remember him), did the voltage regulation and rebuild for me.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 5, 2021 22:05:12 GMT
My 1210 has only ever been away from home once in it's life and that was to South Uist when Paul Haynes (remember him), did the voltage regulation and rebuild for me. Yeah, fair enough. I've had mine all over the place lol |
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Post by gninnam on Dec 5, 2021 22:51:02 GMT
I'm closer to Wakefield so perhaps we could do a comparison?
Both have SME V's on ?
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Post by antonio on Dec 6, 2021 5:38:07 GMT
£15k with the arm. Ouch £600 you can have my Kenwood kd750 with AT 0C9 attached. That goes round and round Is the KD750 part of the same family as the KD990 with this die cast structure underneath the plinth? www.hifishark.com/article/kenwood-kd-990-turntable |
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Post by stevew on Dec 6, 2021 10:16:31 GMT
I have no idea Dave.
It is bloody heavy. The plinth is made of some kind of resin mixture.. but I’d only be guessing as to what makes it so heavy.
The engineering that went into these things is quite astonishing.
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Post by sq225917 on Dec 6, 2021 19:19:52 GMT
New Nagra deck just out too.
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Post by lurch on Dec 6, 2021 19:46:30 GMT
More than happy with my Bardo, when it has the OL Conqueror 3C but more so now its sporting a 12" Enterprise Mk4. I'm looking forward to schlepping it up country for the proposed meet up, will be intersting putting it up against some Techies.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 6, 2021 20:15:38 GMT
More than happy with my Bardo, when it has the OL Conqueror 3C but more so now its sporting a 12" Enterprise Mk4. I'm looking forward to schlepping it up country for the proposed meet up, will be intersting putting it up against some Techies. There's a SP10R for sale at Emporium. I must admit, I did see if I could scrape the funds together. Just had a look, the Bardo sports decent figures of Wow & Flutter 0.07% linear, 0.035% weighted and rumble of 64 dB (test record DIN 45544); -68 dB That's not bad at all. |
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Post by antonio on Dec 6, 2021 22:59:21 GMT
More than happy with my Bardo, when it has the OL Conqueror 3C but more so now its sporting a 12" Enterprise Mk4. I'm looking forward to schlepping it up country for the proposed meet up, will be intersting putting it up against some Techies. Don't forget Lurch, it's not from the 'golden era', and there's lots of shister's (forgive my spelling) about selling these modern tt's for huge sums of money.  Oh, it does measure well so you maybe ok. |
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Post by pete on Dec 8, 2021 11:41:46 GMT
More than happy with my Bardo, when it has the OL Conqueror 3C but more so now its sporting a 12" Enterprise Mk4. I'm looking forward to schlepping it up country for the proposed meet up, will be intersting putting it up against some Techies. There's a SP10R for sale at Emporium. I must admit, I did see if I could scrape the funds together. Just had a look, the Bardo sports decent figures of Wow & Flutter 0.07% linear, 0.035% weighted and rumble of 64 dB (test record DIN 45544); -68 dB That's not bad at all. Is that the one, a bargain at £8K? |
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