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Post by spider on Feb 7, 2021 20:35:33 GMT
  The ultimate way to effectively clean records. This advanced technology deep cleans your vinyl and improves sound quality by removing microscopic particles from within the grooves. It uses Ultrasonic waves to clean all the dirt from the surface of the record and deep into the grooves making it possible for all the information to be extracted from the record by your stylus and communicated to you through your speakers. The Ultrasonic bath has ceramic transducers fitted which create a sonic wave that produce millions of microscopic bubbles which get into the grooves of your vinyl and dislodge the dirt and grime making your records play better than when they were new. Unfortunately it cannot repair damage, but if your records are just dirty this machine will clean them and give you an enhanced experience when listening to you record collection. It also has the added effect of prolonging the life of your stylus as there is no dirt on the surface of your records to burn on to the stylus of your cartridge. Check out our website. www.velvetvortex.com  |
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Post by savvypaul on Feb 8, 2021 15:30:16 GMT
The ultimate way to effectively clean records. This advanced technology deep cleans your vinyl and improves sound quality by removing microscopic particles from within the grooves. It uses Ultrasonic waves to clean all the dirt from the surface of the record and deep into the grooves making it possible for all the information to be extracted from the record by your stylus and communicated to you through your speakers. The Ultrasonic bath has ceramic transducers fitted which create a sonic wave that produce millions of microscopic bubbles which get into the grooves of your vinyl and dislodge the dirt and grime making your records play better than when they were new. Unfortunately it cannot repair damage, but if your records are just dirty this machine will clean them and give you an enhanced experience when listening to you record collection. It also has the added effect of prolonging the life of your stylus as there is no dirt on the surface of your records to burn on to the stylus of your cartridge. Check out our website. www.velvetvortex.comLooks interesting. Is there any benefit over my Okki Nokki? I assume I could use the ON to vacuum dry. A video would be good for the instructions page. |
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Post by spider on Feb 8, 2021 15:39:25 GMT
There are lots of benefits over a scrub n vac type system.
The main one being the ultrasonic wave technology is much more effective and gentler way of cleaning vinyl. It will clean deep into the grooves where a scrub brush just can't reach.
It can be left to clean the record while you do something else no need to stand over it scrubbing away and it will turn off automatically when the cleaning time cycle has finished.
The difference when using ultrasonic to clean your records is notable you will hear it.
Some people choose to use their old vac system to dry records when using the Velvet Vortex but most end up selling the vac system soon after buying a Velvet Vortex.
I've been planning to make a video but in reality it is so easy to use you'll pick it up in a few minutes.
If you read the testimonials I think it will demonstrate exactly how effective it is.
Hope that helps
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 8, 2021 15:56:17 GMT
The ultimate way to effectively clean records. This advanced technology deep cleans your vinyl and improves sound quality by removing microscopic particles from within the grooves. It uses Ultrasonic waves to clean all the dirt from the surface of the record and deep into the grooves making it possible for all the information to be extracted from the record by your stylus and communicated to you through your speakers. The Ultrasonic bath has ceramic transducers fitted which create a sonic wave that produce millions of microscopic bubbles which get into the grooves of your vinyl and dislodge the dirt and grime making your records play better than when they were new. Unfortunately it cannot repair damage, but if your records are just dirty this machine will clean them and give you an enhanced experience when listening to you record collection. It also has the added effect of prolonging the life of your stylus as there is no dirt on the surface of your records to burn on to the stylus of your cartridge. Check out our website. www.velvetvortex.comLooks interesting. Is there any benefit over my Okki Nokki? I assume I could use the ON to vacuum dry. A video would be good for the instructions page. I have an Okki Nokki too, but hope to soon be giving one of these a whirl. I've wanted to try one for a while. Tempted Paul? |
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Post by savvypaul on Feb 8, 2021 16:35:59 GMT
Yes, a bit.
The 15 minute clean sounds like a long time, but suggests thoroughness! I like buying 2nd hand records because I like to take a punt and the secondhand prices are generally more amenable to that approach. Pick stuff up off ebay or discogs, though you can't beat an afternoon in a proper, independent 2nd hand record dealer's and coming out with a pile of albums. Not too worried about rarity - I like quantity, lol.
I'm interested to hear from folks who have moved from vacuum to ultrasonic. I'm not sure I have the patience (or the room) for air drying, though.
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Post by misterc on Feb 8, 2021 17:17:40 GMT
Basic premise of URC, the frequencies involved (quality of the Piezoelectric transducers) , time in the bath and surfactant used. Get it right and it really works.
Makes a vinyl more enjoyable imho
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Post by spider on Feb 8, 2021 17:38:56 GMT
Yes, a bit. The 15 minute clean sounds like a long time, but suggests thoroughness! I like buying 2nd hand records because I like to take a punt and the secondhand prices are generally more amenable to that approach. Pick stuff up off ebay or discogs, though you can't beat an afternoon in a proper, independent 2nd hand record dealer's and coming out with a pile of albums. Not too worried about rarity - I like quantity, lol. I'm interested to hear from folks who have moved from vacuum to ultrasonic. I'm not sure I have the patience (or the room) for air drying, though. Hi Paul The clean time is between 5 and 15 mins depending how dirty the record is. Dry time is dependent on how warm the room is. But even vacuumed records are not fully dry for a few minutes after vac in my experience they need a few minutes to fully dry. Most people use a knosti rack or plate rack for drying it doesn’t take up much space. Its worth being patient to get your vinyl scrupulously clean. 👍👍👍👍👍 |
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 8, 2021 22:28:09 GMT
Yes, a bit. The 15 minute clean sounds like a long time, but suggests thoroughness! I like buying 2nd hand records because I like to take a punt and the secondhand prices are generally more amenable to that approach. Pick stuff up off ebay or discogs, though you can't beat an afternoon in a proper, independent 2nd hand record dealer's and coming out with a pile of albums. Not too worried about rarity - I like quantity, lol. I'm interested to hear from folks who have moved from vacuum to ultrasonic. I'm not sure I have the patience (or the room) for air drying, though. A friend of mine uses an ultrasonic cleaner and still uses the Okki Nokki after to get the fluid off. Yes, I expect it can get quite messy but I'll give it a go and report back. Mine should be here next week 😲 😉 |
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Post by antonio on Feb 9, 2021 2:07:47 GMT
The air drying has always 'put me off' ultra sonic cleaners since I can remember reading that the vacuum drying stage is an important part of the cleaning process. Maybe don't have to worry as much since the ultra will clean more thoroughly though. I'll be interested in seeing how others get on and may consider buying if I decide to keep my vinyl, which at present is not being used.
One more thing, for very dirty vinyl is there any reason one could not wash under the tap with a soft cloth and cleaning agent before using the ultra?
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 9, 2021 6:37:02 GMT
The air drying has always 'put me off' ultra sonic cleaners since I can remember reading that the vacuum drying stage is an important part of the cleaning process. Maybe don't have to worry as much since the ultra will clean more thoroughly though. I'll be interested in seeing how others get on and may consider buying if I decide to keep my vinyl, which at present is not being used. One more thing, for very dirty vinyl is there any reason one could not wash under the tap with a soft cloth and cleaning agent before using the ultra? Thats a good point about the vacuuming. I can't see a reason that you cant do both? Ihave a few LP's here that i wouldn't even dream of putting my stylus on. They are encrusted with filth. They will be a genuine test for the VV. I have recieved some info from a friend of mine in regard to fluids, techniques etc. I will try them out and report back. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 7:18:11 GMT
Does it leave all the gunk in the tank ?
All the non vac ones I've tried get the muck of then it sticks straight back on as it's on the surface of the fluid.
After a few discs they all had streaks of gunk from lifting them out.
Indeed even the most sophisticated ultrasonic cleaners I use in NDT at work have to constantly filter the fluid because of this and even then need fresh fluid at an alarming rate.
Is this not a problem ?
I see only a stagnant pool of fluid in the pics.
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 10, 2021 8:54:28 GMT
Does it leave all the gunk in the tank ? All the non vac ones I've tried get the muck of then it sticks straight back on as it's on the surface of the fluid. After a few discs they all had streaks of gunk from lifting them out. Indeed even the most sophisticated ultrasonic cleaners I use in NDT at work have to constantly filter the fluid because of this and even then need fresh fluid at an alarming rate. Is this not a problem ? I see only a stagnant pool of fluid in the pics. That's a great point, eng. A filtration system should be easy enough to tack on? I know this has been done already so I'll be looking at that too. |
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Post by spider on Feb 10, 2021 9:21:20 GMT
Hi Guys
I supply some 190 micron filters to filter the fluid as you empty the bath.
It is best practice to empty the bath after using it and filter the fluid to get all the solid dirt removed from the fluid.
This way you are using fluid with no dirt in it every time you clean records.
If you use the right mix of fluid there is no residue left behind on the vinyl.
If you are doing a session of cleaning several records then it may be necessary to top up the fluid with a bit of distilled water but that’s the same with any record cleaning system they all use some fluid.
It’s worth reading the testimonies they tell the story about exactly how effective the system of cleaning really is.
In my experience any residue left behind is usually because the cleaning fluid used is not the right type of mix for cleaning vinyl. That goes for any system not just ultrasonic.
We’ve not had any customers that have had a problem with residue left on their records after cleaning when using the right type of fluid.
Hope that helps answer your questions
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 10, 2021 9:37:30 GMT
Hi Guys I supply some 190 micron filters to filter the fluid as you empty the bath. It is best practice to empty the bath after using it and filter the fluid to get all the solid dirt removed from the fluid. This way you are using fluid with no dirt in it every time you clean records. If you use the right mix of fluid there is no residue left behind on the vinyl. If you are doing a session of cleaning several records then it may be necessary to top up the fluid with a bit of distilled water but that’s the same with any record cleaning system they all use some fluid. It’s worth reading the testimonies they tell the story about exactly how effective the system of cleaning really is. In my experience any residue left behind is usually because the cleaning fluid used is not the right type of mix for cleaning vinyl. That goes for any system not just ultrasonic. We’ve not had any customers that have had a problem with residue left on their records after cleaning when using the right type of fluid. Hope that helps answer your questions Excellent I have pulled out some absolute filthy LPs to clean....there will be NO uncertainty about it's performance after tackling these 🤣 |
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Post by jimbo on Feb 10, 2021 19:22:39 GMT
How much are they?
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 10, 2021 19:35:05 GMT
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Post by karma67 on Feb 10, 2021 19:58:39 GMT
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Post by spider on Feb 10, 2021 20:00:08 GMT
Check out the website all the information is all on there  www.velvetvortex.comThe ones on eBay have to cover postage and eBay fees in the price. it’s better to look at the website. |
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Post by spider on Feb 15, 2021 9:19:06 GMT
Hi We have done some maintenance to the website this weekend. A new instructions page and a new FAQ page. Plus a rewrite of the custom projects page. Check it out www.velvetvortex.com |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 9:37:06 GMT
Can you clean more than one record at a time?
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 15, 2021 9:58:43 GMT
Can you clean more than one record at a time? 3 |
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Post by spider on Feb 15, 2021 13:48:20 GMT
Can you clean more than one record at a time? It will do up to three at a time. I am sure you’ve seen some with up to six or seven stacked up but this is not good practice. This is because for the ultrasonic wave to work properly needs some space. A gap of around 20 to 25mm is needed to make sure the records are cleaned properly. I tend to do them one at a time but I understand people want to do more on some occasions, but they still need to be done properly so three is the maximum that can be done at a time. I hope that helps explain why it is three. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 18:10:20 GMT
Yes, it explains why. Just the pictures on the website seem to imply it is one at a time.
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Post by spider on Nov 8, 2021 9:09:43 GMT
New price on website of £360 Recent before and after    |
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Post by Bigman80 on Nov 8, 2021 9:33:47 GMT
Yeah great bit of kit.
Really like mine and use it far more often than I thought I would.
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Post by pete on Nov 8, 2021 12:05:42 GMT
Yeah great bit of kit. Really like mine and use it far more often than I thought I would. How does real world performance compare with the Okki Nokki?? Just wondering Oliver. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Nov 8, 2021 12:13:59 GMT
Yeah great bit of kit. Really like mine and use it far more often than I thought I would. How does real world performance compare with the Okki Nokki?? Just wondering Oliver. I sold my Okki Nokki about 14 days after receiving this. Cleanliness was far better with the VV. Less clicks, pops etc Less static Also, being able to put three LPs on their and let it get on with it seemed to be far less labour Intensive. I highly recommend it. |
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Post by macca on Nov 8, 2021 12:18:02 GMT
£360 is very reasonable. If I was still using vinyl I'd almost certainly get one to replace my Moth Mk2. Although that does a good job I agree it is much more labour intensive.
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Post by Bigman80 on Nov 8, 2021 12:41:14 GMT
£360 is very reasonable. If I was still using vinyl I'd almost certainly get one to replace my Moth Mk2. Although that does a good job I agree it is much more labour intensive. It's just so simple and if you get a great filter, you can reuse the fluid. I'm a big fan |
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