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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 8:33:03 GMT
Can you hear a difference between these two files? File 1File 2
These were done with a different set up. Public disclaimer: No Houdinis were harmed (or used) in the making of these files. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 27, 2020 9:06:30 GMT
Had to adjust levels, but File 1 sounds more dynamic to me with better impact and decay, but a bit fatter tonally. The HF in File2 sounded a bit recessed. I owuld prefer to listen to File 1 The good thing is that you can hear a difference. It is in preparation for my Houdini needle drops, although it may be unfair, as I need to check the bit rate of file 2. It may not be the same. If it is not, I will redo file 2. Yes it was clearly obvious but i will confess, as i am not a headphones guy, my selection is very limited. Any impressions are likely to be held hostage to the SQ i can pull from them at the minute. I will download and play the files via my PecanPi when you get the Houdini ones done. I am quite excited about this and it's also given me a great idea for the forum, but that will have to be for the future as it requires a bit of investment. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 10:18:22 GMT
I still don’t think it will be a real substitute for hearing the “master” sound, but it should give a good idea. I have my cartridge spaced out by 4mm with 2 grammes of additional weight in those files.
Houdini will require 2mm more, but I don’t see the 2mm making enough of a difference for me to have to ship out the current set up.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 27, 2020 10:23:43 GMT
I still don’t think it will be a real substitute for hearing the “master” sound, but it should give a good idea. I have my cartridge spaced out by 4mm with 2 grammes of additional weight in those files. Houdini will require 2mm more, but I don’t see the 2mm making enough of a difference for me to have to ship out the current set up. It's only for interest and no final conclusion could be drawn from listening to the needle drops, but it will be interesting to be on the journey with you |
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Post by macca on Sept 27, 2020 10:28:29 GMT
The fist clip is recorded at a significantly louder level so that sounds better. Could really do with them being at the same level for a comparison.
Both sound very good though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 14:58:07 GMT
The first clip is the MC cartridge. No level changes were made, apart from the gain adjustment.
The needle drops using the Houdini will be using the same cartridge, so the difference in levels will not happen.
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Post by macca on Sept 27, 2020 15:34:14 GMT
Cool. When is the dufus due to arrive?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 16:05:04 GMT
Next week. It is coming by UPS, so I should get a notification soon.
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Post by rexton on Sept 27, 2020 17:57:39 GMT
I agree 1st clip better sounding, easily discernable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 13:04:11 GMT
Just for full disclosure, I have received my invoice for my Houdini today - at the full RRP. I will pay the invoice when the Houdini arrives.
It will be evaluated as a £300 upgrade.
I know people have been offered them for less, and some sent tbem for free.
I am only posting this so you know I am paying for this upgrade with my own cash and no favours are being taken into consideration with my thoughts on the product.
Initial thoughts are that £300 stings, but I have not heard it yet.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 30, 2020 13:12:12 GMT
Just for full disclosure, I have received my invoice for my Houdini today - at the full RRP. I will pay the invoice when the Houdini arrives. It will be evaluated as a £300 upgrade. I know people have been offered them for less, and some sent tbem for free. I am only posting this so you know I am paying for this upgrade with my own cash and no favours are being taken into consideration with my thoughts on the product. Initial thoughts are that £300 stings, but I have not heard it yet. Top man Kevin. I appreciate your full disclosure. Can't wait to hear your thoughts. Don't worry about any other facts other than what you hear. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 13:33:22 GMT
With all the malarkey that has been going on, I just wanted to be clear.
If I don't like it, it will go back.....
There is always a 1st.😉
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 16:54:28 GMT
Well, Funk me....
It is only here at the house when I got home from work.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 30, 2020 17:55:46 GMT
Well, Funk me.... It is only here at the house when I got home from work. Is it on yet? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 17:57:33 GMT
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Post by stevew on Sept 30, 2020 18:00:33 GMT
Game on.
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Post by rexton on Sept 30, 2020 18:05:56 GMT
Can't wait to here your thoughts. Looks like MArk over on Audioflat did a very accurate comparison, it makes for a good read.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 18:09:20 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 30, 2020 18:16:34 GMT
It's not for looking at is it lol.... Crikey.. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 30, 2020 18:17:35 GMT
Are these the test files for the Houdini? I'm confused.....it's easily done. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 18:19:45 GMT
It makes a noticeable difference.
Just uploading two files to google dribve - Just under 1Gb total, so bear with me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 18:20:39 GMT
Are these the test files for the Houdini? I'm confused.....it's easily done. There are two files. One is with a Houdini, one without... |
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Post by rexton on Sept 30, 2020 18:30:11 GMT
To me Test file 1 sounds the better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 18:31:15 GMT
It makes a noticeable difference. Just uploading two files to google dribve - Just under 1Gb total, so bear with me. About an hour and a half to go. I’ll post some thoughts up later in the week.... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 18:48:57 GMT
To me Test file 1 sounds the better. What do you prefer about it? |
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Post by rexton on Sept 30, 2020 19:00:03 GMT
I think I hear more detail with better leading edge to the percussion. To my ears it just sounds better defined an less muffled.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 30, 2020 19:05:06 GMT
Are these the test files for the Houdini? I'm confused.....it's easily done. There are two files. One is with a Houdini, one without... Ok, I'll have a listen in that case |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 19:10:37 GMT
I think I hear more detail with better leading edge to the percussion. To my ears it just sounds better defined an less muffled. The differences in set up are 1mm in the height to get the VTA the same, measured using my BUM gauge. VTF set at 2.5g and anti-skate left the same. I had purposely shimmed my cartridge out with a 4mm high density graphite block and a finger lift to get as similar state as possible. I think I also prefer track 1. |
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Post by macca on Sept 30, 2020 19:14:43 GMT
Can't listen to them - says they are locked by owner?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 19:31:18 GMT
Should be ok now?
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