reffc
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Post by reffc on Apr 11, 2020 16:03:23 GMT
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 11, 2020 16:08:13 GMT
Collection only from Cardiff. Shame, it looks a good'un. It would be interesting to hear your conversation with the police officer, explaining why it was an essential journey.  If he or she's an audiophile you're in luck, otherwise probably not. Also, unlike many others, I don't rate the Pioneer A400 - I bought one on the rep and although it sounded impressive first off, tonally it's spot-on and nicely open, but quite quickly it just sounded dynamically drab and boring to me. Maybe it needed a refurb. |
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Post by antonio on Apr 11, 2020 16:39:49 GMT
The big advantage of the Denon is it's NEW.
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Post by engine on Apr 11, 2020 17:22:46 GMT
OK...I'll buck the trend and say that unless you only want to spend a few hundred, I wouldn't pay strong money from anything too vintage (unless "top end vintage") as unless already serviced, just about all will either need or benefit from one. Transistor output stages in the '70's for example, simply weren't up to the reliability or longevity of modern counterparts and anything approaching 40 to 50 years old will almost certainly have drifted miles off value and things like electrolytic caps would need looking at. You can be lucky and find a one careful owner, low miles example, or one that's never been run too long or too hot but at that age, I'd put half the budget towards a service. New you get better bang for your buck imho as it's pretty hard to find a really bad or really unreliable class A/B amp these days. The best value I think is in the 5 to 10 yr old category. Loads to choose from at a grand or less. My thoughts exactly. It's looking like the Denon 16 wotsit one. |
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Post by engine on Apr 11, 2020 18:38:04 GMT
No, not familiar with their current stuff at all. Yer man on here has the flagship one and he rates it but I think that's two grand. Whoever 'me man ' is , I needs some advice on using this with two external phono amps and a tellybox. Inputs look limited. Ta |
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Post by macca on Apr 11, 2020 18:41:55 GMT
Which amp are we talking about now?
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Post by engine on Apr 11, 2020 18:56:54 GMT
Denon pma1600ne.
I think the inputs are the same on both models.
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Post by antonio on Apr 11, 2020 19:01:26 GMT
No, not familiar with their current stuff at all. Yer man on here has the flagship one and he rates it but I think that's two grand. Whoever 'me man ' is , I needs some advice on using this with two external phono amps and a tellybox. Inputs look limited. Ta Should be ok, 3 inputs for your 2 phonostages plus it even has a phono input as well which you could try. On the digital side, 2 optical, 1 coax and a usb, all you could possibly need. |
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reffc
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Post by reffc on Apr 11, 2020 19:04:16 GMT
Collection only from Cardiff. Shame, it looks a good'un. It would be interesting to hear your conversation with the police officer, explaining why it was an essential journey. If he or she's an audiophile you're in luck, otherwise probably not. Also, unlike many others, I don't rate the Pioneer A400 - I bought one on the rep and although it sounded impressive first off, tonally it's spot-on and nicely open, but quite quickly it just sounded dynamically drab and boring to me. Maybe it needed a refurb. To be fair I didn't read the whole thing including pick up...I am familiar with the amp and it is indeed "a good 'un". Never heard the A400...only know it by rep, which generally has been more positive than negative. |
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Post by engine on Apr 11, 2020 19:37:01 GMT
Ok. Thanks everyone.
Priceless y'are.
Ordered the Denon at £1,099 from a place called Peter Tyson.
Hope it's ok cos he sounds loike a right hard bastard ! 🙁
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 11, 2020 19:40:11 GMT
Mike's bigger brother.
You have rights of return/refund, too, with buying new online, in case you aren't keen on it.
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Post by engine on Apr 11, 2020 19:50:42 GMT
I won't deny that's a plus.
Im a bit tired of buying used anyway.
I think my last new amp was my old NAP170 in about 1935. 🙄
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Post by engine on Apr 11, 2020 19:52:22 GMT
Mind you it should have been 1605 cos the bugger blew up and took me KEF XQ1 bass units with it !
Go on........ 😌
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Post by antonio on Apr 11, 2020 20:20:41 GMT
Congratulations, hope it works for you.
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Post by macca on Apr 11, 2020 20:25:12 GMT
It looks like it should be pretty good.
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If he or she's an audiophile you're in luck, otherwise probably not.
