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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 11:20:51 GMT
Hi all,
Doing a bit of reading today and realised that I may not have my speakers correctly positioned.
Heeded the advice and had the good old triangular technique set up and I must admit, everything is far better placed than before in the imaging sector and the vocals aren't drifting to one side or the other half as much when I move my slightly lol.
What have you to say about this subject, what are your rules or preferences for speaker placement?
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 22, 2019 12:43:05 GMT
Hi all, Doing a bit of reading today and realised that I may not have my speakers correctly positioned. Heeded the advice and had the good old triangular technique set up and I must admit, everything is far better placed than before in the imaging sector and the vocals aren't drifting to one side or the other half as much when I move my slightly lol. What have you to say about this subject, what are your rules or preferences for speaker placement? First rule I’d say is follow the makers instructions. Any variations need to stem from there. Second, I’d say think of supports. You may not want to pump money into stands if you’re ditching the Pioneers, but I’d be amazed if proper stands made no difference. I’d try different heights before spending dosh though. Third, I’d remember you are the third part of the triangle. You don’t want a reflective wall 3 inches behind your lug holes if you can help it. Finally, if you hear it as better than your makers start point, it IS better.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 12:45:42 GMT
Cool.
I have indeed read that a little toe in is desirable but my soundstage seemed to veer off the the left a little.
This has cured it with little consequence to imaging as far as I can tell.
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Post by antonio on Aug 22, 2019 17:02:58 GMT
Every room is different, it's only when the speakers are in the room you can tell how they react. Our speakers are now set more to the equilateral triangle, with toe-in towards the listening position, even though the manufacturer states toe-in is not recommended. Trial and error Bigman.
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 22, 2019 17:18:01 GMT
Every room is different, it's only when the speakers are in the room you can tell how they react. Our speakers are now set more to the equilateral triangle, with toe-in towards the listening position, even though the manufacturer states toe-in is not recommended. Trial and error Bigman. I can vouch for that. Pretty much every house move has resulted in a change of speakers because the new room was less suitable than the room they were bought to work in. Notable exception was Duevel Planets. Worked wonderfully in three different UK listening rooms and a completely different acoustic in Cyprus.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 17:26:57 GMT
Cheers fellas.
Convinced that the experience has improved and I can just see the inside edge of the speakers.
Coolio
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Post by karma67 on Aug 22, 2019 17:50:43 GMT
for what its worth oli i set my speakers up using the master set method,its basically done using 1 track as a reference,jenefer warns the ballad of the runaway horse,there is a upright bass that plays throughout the song,you start with the speakers right up against the wall and slowly bring them out until you can hear the bass thump slowly tighten up and become more defined with lots of decay,a few mm makes an audible difference.
once you are in the spot, slowly toe in for more dynamics and a crisp central and intermate vocal
im not saying its the only way but it works for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 19:40:02 GMT
Different strokes for different folks....
Some follow a conventional set-up. Some don't.
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Post by karma67 on Aug 22, 2019 19:42:34 GMT
ofc, its the end result that matters not how you get there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 20:01:14 GMT
for what its worth oli i set my speakers up using the master set method,its basically done using 1 track as a reference,jenefer warns the ballad of the runaway horse,there is a upright bass that plays throughout the song,you start with the speakers right up against the wall and slowly bring them out until you can hear the bass thump slowly tighten up and become more defined with lots of decay,a few mm makes an audible difference.
once you are in the spot, slowly toe in for more dynamics and a crisp central and intermate vocal
im not saying its the only way but it works for me. I'll give that a go tomorrow but kind of did that by accident. Used different tracks so I'll try a reference track. Top stuff!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 20:16:41 GMT
Obviously room type (square, oblong, L-shaped) will have a bearing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 20:27:10 GMT
Obviously room type (square, oblong, L-shaped) will have a bearing. Just a standard rectangle.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 22:48:05 GMT
Google it, and you'll see how opinions vary.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 7:06:17 GMT
Google it, and you'll see how opinions vary. Careful... next you’ll be suggesting we use the internet to get cable advice 😈
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