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Post by jimbo on Mar 14, 2020 14:38:24 GMT
I have heard both and impressed with both. I have a feeling the Qutest has a more muscular sound and is probably more detailed with bigger soundstage, however I was listening with files loaded on an Innuos Zen. As a stand alone DAC fed with files off a laptop and using the Pi as a streamer things maybe different. The Qutest is excellently isolated as a device and its output can also be changed which can have a significant effect. The Pecan Pi is very good indeed with good imaging and sound stage and control but I feel the Qutest is even more controlled especially in the bottom end and delivers more information. This will be an interesting bake off if it happens especially as the Qutest is five times the price, can the Pecan Pi hold its own..... You still haven't heard the PecanPi at it's best and whilst I don't doubt the Chord will be excellent, I do wonder if it will be a sound I like. Ah thats another matter. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 14, 2020 14:41:03 GMT
You still haven't heard the PecanPi at it's best and whilst I don't doubt the Chord will be excellent, I do wonder if it will be a sound I like. Ah thats another matter. Be good to see if you could loan chord unit, jimbo Could do a test if our own |
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Post by stevew on Mar 14, 2020 15:58:57 GMT
Be good to see if you could loan chord unit, jimbo Could do a test if our own Was thinking the same! |
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Post by jimbo on Mar 14, 2020 18:30:42 GMT
I may ask next time I see Steve, might ask if I can borrow DAVE aswell!
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 14, 2020 18:53:45 GMT
I may ask next time I see Steve, might ask if I can borrow DAVE aswell! That would be awesome. |
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Post by stevew on Mar 14, 2020 19:12:50 GMT
I may ask next time I see Steve, might ask if I can borrow DAVE aswell! Noooo!!! That way lies madness. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 14, 2020 19:19:50 GMT
I may ask next time I see Steve, might ask if I can borrow DAVE aswell! Noooo!!! That way lies madness. We will test Dave if we can |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 8:22:27 GMT
I thought Dave was originally done by Arcam?
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 15, 2020 9:04:43 GMT
I thought Dave was originally done by Arcam? Not as far as I'm aware? Always known it as a Chord product |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 9:16:08 GMT
Dave was an add on module for the Arcam 10 and FMJ A22 integrated amps. Arcam Dave |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 15, 2020 9:43:39 GMT
Dave was an add on module for the Arcam 10 and FMJ A22 integrated amps. Arcam DaveWell I never!! You learn something new every day |
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Post by macca on Mar 15, 2020 10:28:18 GMT
The name is the same but it is a completely different product. Arcam Dave was an additional three channels of amplification to turn your stereo amp into a Home Theatre amp.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 10:56:49 GMT
Macca is quite correct the Arcam dave is a very different audio product to the Chord Dave dac.
Same name two polar opposite sounds, the pump house bling being like naim of old, all leading detail and sonic fireworks, an impressive starter but lacks real three dimensional depth and inner musical presentation, when you hook up the m-scaler it just has a bigger sound stage and even more thrust. Like all Chord products case work is nicely executed and finish is good, lots of options for tinkering with the sound.
Having had the both of these products for a good 10 ten days on loan I can give my view of this, in the end I went for a Lumin S1 cost wise around the price of a Dave without the m-scaler, sound quality wise far more natural, greater depth and texture and a much better sense of ease of listening.
Others my feel different but if you are looking to go down this route please do look at other makes and models in this bracket I have a feeling they will change your thoughts on what is now possible from digital.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 10:59:00 GMT
I know the product is different, but Chord are hardly being original with the name.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 15, 2020 11:06:57 GMT
I know the product is different, but Chord are hardly being original with the name. Fair point. |
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Post by stevew on Mar 15, 2020 11:41:35 GMT
Macca is quite correct the Arcam dave is a very different audio product to the Chord Dave dac. Same name two polar opposite sounds, the pump house bling being like naim of old, all leading detail and sonic fireworks, an impressive starter but lacks real three dimensional depth and inner musical presentation, when you hook up the m-scaler it just has a bigger sound stage and even more thrust. Like all Chord products case work is nicely executed and finish is good, lots of options for tinkering with the sound. Having had the both of these products for a good 10 ten days on loan I can give my view of this, in the end I went for a Lumin S1 cost wise around the price of a Dave without the m-scaler, sound quality wise far more natural, greater depth and texture and a much better sense of ease of listening. Others my feel different but if you are looking to go down this route please do look at other makes and models in this bracket I have a feeling they will change your thoughts on what is now possible from digital. Very interesting. Thank you |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 17, 2020 13:08:43 GMT
Looking forward to giving this a try. Brand new to the market, and by our very own Simon (sq) It's up against my 'go-to' record cleaning fluid made by "Rebirth of the cool" More commonly known as "The Right One" I have a couple of LPs here that I have been saving for this little test. Results of the review and comparison will be in the review section.  |
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Post by hudz on Mar 17, 2020 16:07:03 GMT
Electronumptys starting a meth lab and Olis scored some E, idle hands and all that..... Didn't take this place long to begin the downward spiral. Feeling more at home by the minute  |
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Post by sq225917 on Mar 17, 2020 16:27:25 GMT
I've mailed a few out this week, you, jaime and VV tim.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 17, 2020 16:45:09 GMT
I've mailed a few out this week, you, jaime and VV tim. Trying to find me bloody pure water. Bought a 5L bottle a while back and now its hiding from me |
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Post by karma67 on Mar 17, 2020 16:47:51 GMT
I've mailed a few out this week, you, jaime and VV tim. yep got mine today along with the feet,thanks for them,i wont be able to try it for obvious reason for a while though. |
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Post by sq225917 on Mar 17, 2020 17:56:39 GMT
No worries jaime. I actually fitted a set of those feet under my kuzma, doesnt sound any different to my air bladder setup, which I'm pleased with, cos they look better.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 19, 2020 22:19:04 GMT
Ha! Postie brought my delivery from Farnell today. I did wonder if it would get here or if we'd be I lockdown first. Thankfully, Its here. Now just waiting on the PCBs which are "in transit" with Yodel. I'm hoping they get here before the weekend as I think I could be stuck after that. Been busy though. Sifted 200/1200 resistors and weeded out the ones at 0.1% ready for the next BB build. I could have bought 0.1% resistors but there is a bond between me and Vishay, and when 10 resistors cost £2.40 vs 100 @ £3.70, Seemed sensible to go big. Knackered now and I have two tonearm cables to make tomorrow so it's time for a rest and a cuppa  |
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Post by firebottle on Mar 20, 2020 7:16:41 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 20, 2020 7:42:29 GMT
Making good use of that meter Oh yes. New battery in it too lol |
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Post by sq225917 on Mar 20, 2020 10:37:25 GMT
Surely you need a 4 digit accuracy... ;-)
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 20, 2020 10:59:49 GMT
Surely you need a 4 digit accuracy... ;-) Hell no lol I'd be here forever!! |
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Post by electronumpty on Mar 20, 2020 12:05:35 GMT
Surely you need a 4 digit accuracy... ;-) Hell no lol I'd be here forever!! Lightweight! 😛 |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 20, 2020 12:07:39 GMT
Hell no lol I'd be here forever!! Lightweight! 😛 My thumb is murder after using the crocodile clips 200 times yesterday. That hadnt even entered my mind when I started. I had 2 tonearm cables to make today but have had to postpone due to the bloody pain. 4 digits.....I'd need 6 mi ths to get through this lot lol |
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Post by hudz on Mar 20, 2020 12:07:59 GMT
Hell no lol I'd be here forever!! Lightweight! 😛 Surely not, he was 18 klem at the last weigh in Gettin' me coat.  and running shoes on. |
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