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Jul 30, 2019 18:51:40 GMT
Post by dsjr on Jul 30, 2019 18:51:40 GMT
Like I said, there *are* many hidden overheads to running a business in addition to the profiteering seen by many as excessive. One company I do have a growing respect for is John Michell Engineering. they've never ripped their buyers off and their decks were always beautifully turned out - the styling *had* to be properly finished otherwise it wouldn't work and a few months ago when I had to all but dismantle a Gyrodec to clean and re-set it up, I was staggered at the careful engineering all over and not just the shiny bits you see on the surface. I think the price has doubled in thirty years, but cannot be certain. Great eye candy and it sounds ok too with the right arm.
Way off topic, but it looks as if the Tecnoarm has very different tonearm exit cables to the standard Rega models. Mind you, it's a bloody high price for a me-too RB250 with some drilling and wanky bits added to make it look cool and foo wires fitted (runs for cover)...
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Jul 30, 2019 19:00:24 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 19:00:24 GMT
yep michell make superb decks for the money..i love mine although i dont use it lol
when i bought me series v i went to see steve at michell and he sorted me a new sme armboard for 40 quid..amazing service there and value..bought my iso direct there aswell from jon..he even set it up for my arkiv.
great company to deal with and you by a gyro or orbe you'll have a deck that will last forever
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Jul 30, 2019 19:25:18 GMT
Post by dsjr on Jul 30, 2019 19:25:18 GMT
Since there's a lot of extra work done (by Michell) to the raw Rega arm parts, I suppose I shouldn't be too hard on it. The current 200 tonearm has fixed bias and different bearings, so not sure about the current article unless Michell bought massive stocks of the 250 when it was replaced... I'll have another look.
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Jul 30, 2019 19:52:29 GMT
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Post by sq225917 on Jul 30, 2019 19:52:29 GMT
They're a value lead company for sure. Just think what a new turntable design would do for their sales though.
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Jul 30, 2019 20:51:37 GMT
Post by Bigman80 on Jul 30, 2019 20:51:37 GMT
yep michell make superb decks for the money..i love mine although i dont use it lol when i bought me series v i went to see steve at michell and he sorted me a new sme armboard for 40 quid..amazing service there and value..bought my iso direct there aswell from jon..he even set it up for my arkiv. great company to deal with and you by a gyro or orbe you'll have a deck that will last forever Although I never actually bothered to set it up, I thought my Orbe was incredibly well engineered. Probably worth the money asa lifetime investment. |
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Jul 30, 2019 20:56:16 GMT
Post by Bigman80 on Jul 30, 2019 20:56:16 GMT
my box swapping days i found ic cables made very little difference..unless it was those energy sapping VDH ones..speaker cables make much more of a difference Yep, I agree. I have found a couple of cables that defied the rules and made a bigger improvement than I thought possible. First was NVA TIS mk1 which was actually a Goretex cable.Next one was Black Rhodium Polar Illusion. It looks utter Sh#t but it does have nice plugs and it sounds crisper than a crisp sandwich topped with crispy lettuce. |
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Jul 30, 2019 21:20:28 GMT
Post by dsjr on Jul 30, 2019 21:20:28 GMT
Do you have absolute incontrovertible proof the TIS was Goretex? The wires on the mk1 didn't have anything printed on it as I remember and you'd have had to dismantle the made up cable to see the twin coax cables inside - I don't remember there being any printing on the outer jackets. The Goretex rf cables (not RG316U) do seem very good quality and possibly very expensive and two of them do seem roughly the right diameter give or take (larger than the 316U). Only Tom might know now, as the slim drum that mine was made from had nothing printed on it that I could easily and obviously read - and it was hardly left out for my easy viewing  The mk2 version uses different cables apparently and I have no knowledge at all on these. Interconnect sounding 'crisp?' definitely not my type then  I have just found a top cable that Graham Nalty used to make in the days before Black Rhodium. It's a hughly unlikely thick titanium centre core (very inflexibke) and a single core return. It 'used' to sound really good and rrp was £200 odd I remember. The centre core couldn't be soldered so it was screwed into the RCA's and often lost connection. Sound? very clear, refined and not 'crisp' but maybe the higher inline resistance helped? |
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I have just found a top cable that Graham Nalty used to make in the days before Black Rhodium. It's a hughly unlikely thick titanium centre core (very inflexibke) and a single core return. It 'used' to sound really good and rrp was £200 odd I remember. The centre core couldn't be soldered so it was screwed into the RCA's and often lost connection. Sound? very clear, refined and not 'crisp' but maybe the higher inline resistance helped?