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Post by Bigman80 on May 11, 2019 17:44:00 GMT
Today it’s Americans mispronouncing words.
I’d already put up with them calling herbs “erbs”. Then we got solder being pronounced as “sodder” WTF? I thought they were into phonetic spelling. If a word has a letter in it, why do you not pronounce it when everyone else does?
Then we have them dropping the “I” from Aluminium, and from a nation that has the capacity to destroy the planet ten times over, how can’t they pronounce “nuclear”? Even baby Bush couldn’t get it right when he had his finger on the button.
Given the care I take with spelling in my posts, I find their American waywardness particularly annoying.
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Post by macca on May 11, 2019 18:07:49 GMT
But then you've got Mike on Wheeler Dealers who pronounces 'world' as ''weld'. Which would be okay if the show was not about restoring cars where welding and welds are potential subject matter. There's been a couple of occasions where I've thought that anyone not familiar with the cockney accent would get very confused as to what he was referring to.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 18:22:13 GMT
But then you've got Mike on Wheeler Dealers who pronounces 'world' as ''weld'. Which would be okay if the show was not about restoring cars where welding and welds are potential subject matter. There's been a couple of occasions where I've thought that anyone not familiar with the cockney accent would get very confused as to what he was referring to. And he can't pronounce 'didn't'. It always comes out as 'ditn'.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 18:27:50 GMT
'Normalfag' types really gets on my tits!
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Post by macca on May 11, 2019 18:30:26 GMT
What's normalfag?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 18:44:16 GMT
Like a joint, but without the Ganja?
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Post by Bigman80 on May 11, 2019 18:44:24 GMT
But then you've got Mike on Wheeler Dealers who pronounces 'world' as ''weld'. Which would be okay if the show was not about restoring cars where welding and welds are potential subject matter. There's been a couple of occasions where I've thought that anyone not familiar with the cockney accent would get very confused as to what he was referring to. And he can't pronounce 'didn't'. It always comes out as 'ditn'. Aaaargh! Sshhhhtraight as well. But I do like Mike.
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Post by Bigman80 on May 11, 2019 18:45:37 GMT
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Post by alit on May 11, 2019 21:03:58 GMT
I was quite amused watching The Death Of Stalin yesterday - Steve Buscemi (playing Brezhnev) called Moscow Moscow in the way the Yanks do - ie definitely not the way a Russian would, or anyone else for that matter. Bit of a lapse for an actor of his calibre I thought.
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Post by Bigman80 on May 12, 2019 12:52:49 GMT
They seem to excel at mispronouncing place names, especially the ones they bomb the Sh#t out of
Eye-rack. Eye-ran Veeyet-naaaam Koh-Soh-Voh
So much that I like about America and Americans, but their mis-pronunciation really grates.
Oh, and they frequently refer to the UK as “England”.
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Post by savvypaul on May 12, 2019 13:15:04 GMT
Oh, and they frequently refer to the UK as “England”. So does the Daily Mail...
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Post by macca on May 12, 2019 13:22:25 GMT
I'm surprised that you read the Daily Mail.
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Post by alit on May 12, 2019 13:24:11 GMT
Yeah that really grates personally. :-)
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Post by savvypaul on May 12, 2019 13:30:25 GMT
I'm surprised that you read the Daily Mail. I get it for the coverage of the Royals, the puzzle page, and the owner's support for Farage's blackshirts...
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Post by macca on May 12, 2019 13:34:37 GMT
My mum likes the puzzle page too.
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Post by Bigman80 on May 12, 2019 15:29:58 GMT
I got The Times free for a year in my first year at uni. Never read a single article but the local chippy was happy! Other than getting a free bottle of water at an airport, I’ve never bought a newspaper.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 15:51:40 GMT
I was quite amused watching The Death Of Stalin yesterday - Steve Buscemi (playing Brezhnev) called Moscow Moscow in the way the Yanks do - ie definitely not the way a Russian would, or anyone else for that matter. Bit of a lapse for an actor of his calibre I thought. Surely a Russian would be speaking Russian, not English with a Russian accent?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 15:54:30 GMT
Opinionated weather forecasters telling me it's going to be a 'miserable day'. Miserable for who? I quite like a bit of drizzle, so stick to the facts.
Actually those are Nigel Blackwell's words, not mine. What gets on my tits this time of year are barbeques. Get in the kitchen if you want to cook some food.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 16:04:44 GMT
Someone who doesn't live with their parents?
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Post by alit on May 12, 2019 16:11:30 GMT
I was quite amused watching The Death Of Stalin yesterday - Steve Buscemi (playing Brezhnev) called Moscow Moscow in the way the Yanks do - ie definitely not the way a Russian would, or anyone else for that matter. Bit of a lapse for an actor of his calibre I thought. Surely a Russian would be speaking Russian, not English with a Russian accent? LOL how does a Russian speaking Russian pronounce Moscow?
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Post by macca on May 12, 2019 16:13:25 GMT
I was quite amused watching The Death Of Stalin yesterday - Steve Buscemi (playing Brezhnev) called Moscow Moscow in the way the Yanks do - ie definitely not the way a Russian would, or anyone else for that matter. Bit of a lapse for an actor of his calibre I thought. Surely a Russian would be speaking Russian, not English with a Russian accent? Depends, they might have been using 'Allo Allo' rules.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 16:14:25 GMT
Surely a Russian would be speaking Russian, not English with a Russian accent? LOL how does a Russian speaking Russian pronounce Moscow?
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Post by macca on May 12, 2019 16:20:07 GMT
That video could have taken 20 seconds not two minutes. Time on their hands over there I suppose.
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Post by alit on May 12, 2019 16:27:05 GMT
LOL how does a Russian speaking Russian pronounce Moscow? So would a Russian speaking English pronounce Moscow to rhyme with Costco or Cost-cow?
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Post by macca on May 12, 2019 16:43:14 GMT
Depends on where he had learned English I suppose.
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Post by alit on May 12, 2019 18:43:47 GMT
That was my point. Only a Yank would pronounce it the latter way.
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Post by macca on May 12, 2019 18:52:40 GMT
That was my point. Only a Yank would pronounce it the latter way. Or a Russian who learned English in America.
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Post by alit on May 12, 2019 19:36:01 GMT
LOL, my original point is Brezhnev would never have said it that way.
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Post by macca on May 12, 2019 20:47:01 GMT
Fair point.
Although if they were using 'Allo Allo' rules the Brezhnev character would speak in perfect English when he was supposed to be speaking in Russian, and flawed English when he was supposed to be speaking in English ('Good moaning'). In which case he could conceivably pronounce Moscow as Moss-Cow.
There's a bit of Yorkshire where they pronounce 'coat' as 'curt' and ''phone' as 'fawn'. 'Where's me fawn?' That gets on my tits a bit. No idea why. I suppose as a scouser I shouldn't throw stones...
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 10:29:43 GMT
LOL, my original point is Brezhnev would never have said it that way. It doesn't seem any more unlikely than that the character played by Paul Whitehouse would have spoken like a Cockney geezer. I'm sure there are plenty of Russian accents, depending on which part of Russia you come from, and the different English accents in the film didn't cause me any problems. The alternatives would have been to have them all talking in English, but with phoney 'Allo 'Allo style Russian accents, or to make them all learn Russian and have subtitles.
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