Bigman80
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Post by Bigman80 on May 12, 2018 12:05:35 GMT
I have a few hifi mates that I visit. I also end up visiting people to pick up things I buy.
Rarely do I hear a system that is even listenable. In the vast majority of cases it's a seemingly total lack of attention to siting. Speakers usually 3 feet apart, or one in a corner. Free space speakers near a back and/or side wall. Turntables on a big heavy sideboard. Shitty cables all tangled up. Gear piled up on top of one another. I'm not tactful and I have often commented that instead of selling what they have, people need to get rid of their clutter and give the system the space and care it deserves. Othwise nothing they buy will sound good.
I am genuinely puzzled why so many people seem to think just buying something decent is enough. To me it's a waste of time having hifi as a hobby if you haven't got or won't make the space to unleash it. If you genuinely don't have space, stick with headphones or use small wall-reinforced speakers.
To me it's like owning a Ferrari and living in Venice.
Anyone else see the same trend with other hifi users?
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Post by antonio on May 12, 2018 14:45:11 GMT
I agree with you there Westie, and would always try and get speakers that work in my room. This can often mean going with a cheaper speaker, but I guess family and SWMBO have to figure.
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Bigman80
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Post by Bigman80 on May 13, 2018 5:50:19 GMT
Another one I forgot to mention was putting your typical 12-15 litre two-way on 10-12 stands. I haven't come across a proper speaker of that size sat on the floor but I'm sure I will one day. I have seen MA 852 on home made wall brackets either side of a chimney breast though. Sacrilege to me.
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Post by dsjr on May 13, 2018 17:56:59 GMT
Back in my B&O days (I didn't sell much but helped install it on occasion), B&O made a very slim plate speaker to mount on the wall (Beovox 4500 was one I think - www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=371 and the taller 'Vox 6000). Some versions had an amp plus display mounted underneath too but I digress. I once helped install a pair and they were situated around shoulder height behind a set of good quality lined curtains so they couldn't be seen at all! Funny thing was, they didn't sound too bad used this way.... As for other beo-speakers, they always sounded better in homes than they did in the shop - the models changed but here goes - 4000's on shelves, 6000's in corners and 8000 (pencil type) against a long wall but out of corners, the tall Penta-lab's were odd but worked as general background speakers... Another then ageing stereo was the classic Quad 33/303 with (now huge) KEF Concerto's sat on the floor. Nothing like as bad as you'd think - I like the old Concerto's very much on low stands and the first Ariston Isobaric's I believe were two KEFKIT 3's in parallel (I'm sure the originals used KEF T27 tweeters!), Linn then changing the tweeter and maker of the crossover at least when they nicked/resurrected the design. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 23:12:28 GMT
Back in my B&O days (I didn't sell much but helped install it on occasion), B&O made a very slim plate speaker to mount on the wall (Beovox 4500 was one I think - www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=371 and the taller 'Vox 6000). Some versions had an amp plus display mounted underneath too but I digress. I once helped install a pair and they were situated around shoulder height behind a set of good quality lined curtains so they couldn't be seen at all! Funny thing was, they didn't sound too bad used this way.... As for other beo-speakers, they always sounded better in homes than they did in the shop - the models changed but here goes - 4000's on shelves, 6000's in corners and 8000 (pencil type) against a long wall but out of corners, the tall Penta-lab's were odd but worked as general background speakers... Another then ageing stereo was the classic Quad 33/303 with (now huge) KEF Concerto's sat on the floor. Nothing like as bad as you'd think - I like the old Concerto's very much on low stands and the first Ariston Isobaric's I believe were two KEFKIT 3's in parallel (I'm sure the originals used KEF T27 tweeters!), Linn then changing the tweeter and maker of the crossover at least when they nicked/resurrected the design I like Concertos too they sometimes go cheaply too. |
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