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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 22, 2019 7:01:01 GMT
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Post by antonio on Mar 22, 2019 11:42:47 GMT
Thinking of buying Westie when your lottery win comes in?
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 22, 2019 16:55:37 GMT
Yeah, I’d buy both of them if I had the dosh. I actually prefer the look of the Air Force 2
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 17:44:47 GMT
Ugly ass turntables. They look like a broken storm trooper
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Post by antonio on Mar 22, 2019 18:09:59 GMT
Ugly ass turntables. They look like a broken storm trooper Ooooooh. Can't say I disagree too much, prefer the looks of your SP10 and Avid Acutus, come to think of it, and many more tt's. |
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Post by myles on Mar 22, 2019 19:30:44 GMT
If it sounds good enough, it doesn't matter how it looks.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 22, 2019 19:42:24 GMT
I wish I could agree but for me, the looks and build really matter too. If it was just about the sound, I’d have kept one of the Sony PS-6750s I had. VFM-wise they are the biggest bang for buck I’ve heard. Jap looks aren’t palatable fior me though. Probably the nicest affordable decks are Oracle. Spend a bit more and VPI and Basis are nice too. Great fir anyone who only seeks good sound though. They will spend less than someone who wants a looker.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 23:11:32 GMT
Townshend Rock Ref still looks great to my eyes.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 23, 2019 0:20:33 GMT
Townshend Rock Ref still looks great to my eyes. S. Can’t argue there, especially with an Excalibur and Merlin |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2019 12:33:34 GMT
I wish I could agree but for me, the looks and build really matter too. If it was just about the sound, I’d have kept one of the Sony PS-6750s I had. VFM-wise they are the biggest bang for buck I’ve heard. Jap looks aren’t palatable fior me though. Probably the nicest affordable decks are Oracle. Spend a bit more and VPI and Basis are nice too. Great fir anyone who only seeks good sound though. They will spend less than someone who wants a looker. VPI are possibly the only belt drive I'd own. Superb turntables. They do the vanishing act when in use, speed is very stable and they just sound delightful in a way that absorbs your attention. |
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Post by myles on Mar 23, 2019 15:20:45 GMT
I wish I could agree but for me, the looks and build really matter too. If it was just about the sound, I’d have kept one of the Sony PS-6750s I had. VFM-wise they are the biggest bang for buck I’ve heard. Jap looks aren’t palatable fior me though. Probably the nicest affordable decks are Oracle. Spend a bit more and VPI and Basis are nice too. Great fir anyone who only seeks good sound though. They will spend less than someone who wants a looker. VPI are possibly the only belt drive I'd own. Superb turntables. They do the vanishing act when in use, speed is very stable and they just sound delightful in a way that absorbs your attention. You need to listen to more belt drives. |
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Post by sq225917 on Mar 23, 2019 15:30:48 GMT
Yup, VPI are actually one of the worst measuring decks with high amounts of motor coupled noise making it through to the stylus. Rega manages much better in this respect. Also their speed stability is very poor, check out the polar graphs, they should be a perfect circle. www.diyaudio.com/forums/analogue-source/309925-hurst-motors-300-rpm-vs-600-rpm-upgrade-myth.htmlhere's a VPI polar, it should be a perfect circle.  Here's an older iteration of my Kuzma with a 24v rega motor and using abasic Geddon close as PSU. Way smaller deviation from circle.  The VPI shows gross error that is a function of drive accuracy and engineering quality on the bearing, pulley etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2019 17:36:33 GMT
Well Sh#t! That's absolutely destroyed that notion.
However crap the rotation on the platter is, I actually still think it sounds good.
Where are those measurements from Simon? Is there one for the SP10?
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Post by antonio on Mar 23, 2019 18:15:45 GMT
Sorry Simon I cannot see a diagram of the VPI.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 0:27:37 GMT
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Post by macca on Mar 25, 2019 6:57:31 GMT
I like the look of that Marantz, not so keen on the rest.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 25, 2019 7:08:50 GMT
The colossus with twin platters would get my votw
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Post by antonio on Mar 25, 2019 10:38:10 GMT
I would make do with any of them, all good lookers in their own way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 11:34:51 GMT
I like the first one, I'd happily have that, as for the rest no thanks :-)
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