Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 10:33:49 GMT
So we will start with Avantgarde will keep it brief.
Have listened to the Zero, The Uno, the Duo all to my ear very disappointing and the separate powered bass bin on the Uno and the Duo just did not sound right it just did not integrate well. we played with the adjustment and still could not get it right. They were forward, sharp, and they shouted, they did have the dynamics that only horns can give but the cons far outweighed the pros and they are expensive not for me. Not something in my view for long term listing.
The Zero was a let down nothing to right home about, average at best at a silly price.
Unison Research Max 1.
These things yell at you so loud you feel like it did when the Rugby coach at school tore a strip off you. No thanks.
Klipsch Palladium P17B stand mount.
Such fun a great music maker probably the best commercial stand mount I have heard, made my B&W Matrix 805 sound like crap. Bloody expensive out of my league.
Zingali Twenty Evo Plus 1.2
Enjoyed these very much, a very good horn speaker simply because it does not sound like a horn. Except nothing can play a horn like a horn. Which these certainly can play.
Great vocals, great sound stage, great imagining, they certainly projected sound far into the room, they all but disappeared.
Bass not to my liking, not crisp enough, not fast and tight enough, a tad woolly. Did not sound good on an expensive Cary KT88 amp, to slow it was the amp not the speakers.
Hooked then up with a Ming Da valve pre and a big Perreaux power amp they sounded a hell of a lot better. Cost a lot the price to performance ratio does not add up.
DIY horns.
An elderly chap here has a stunning system his Speakers are a modified take on Altech Voice of the Theater speakers this system blue my socks off he has 10 foot tubular subs built into the wall he loves pipe organ hell it sounded good.
The bloke who helped me with the build of my speaker has big DIY three way horns, they slaughter any commercial speaker I have heard apart from one thing again the active bass just does not sound right to me it lags ever so slightly I am very sensitive in that regard, trying to convince him to dump the active bass idea.
In my experience despite the sacredly held belief that a low power amp works with high efficiency speakers just does not work for me. Feed a h/e 100 db speaker 35 watts or so, not the usual 10 and it is a different animal. Feed a 94 db h/e speaker 60 watts same thing.
I like horns, but like all things there is good and bad, some people do not like them plain and simple. Just as I do not like 800 series B&W's, the 800 diamond is possibly the most awful sounding boring waste of money out there apart from Wilson's. Then again who am I to say, they do sell don't they.
Have listened to the Zero, The Uno, the Duo all to my ear very disappointing and the separate powered bass bin on the Uno and the Duo just did not sound right it just did not integrate well. we played with the adjustment and still could not get it right. They were forward, sharp, and they shouted, they did have the dynamics that only horns can give but the cons far outweighed the pros and they are expensive not for me. Not something in my view for long term listing.
The Zero was a let down nothing to right home about, average at best at a silly price.
Unison Research Max 1.
These things yell at you so loud you feel like it did when the Rugby coach at school tore a strip off you. No thanks.
Klipsch Palladium P17B stand mount.
Such fun a great music maker probably the best commercial stand mount I have heard, made my B&W Matrix 805 sound like crap. Bloody expensive out of my league.
Zingali Twenty Evo Plus 1.2
Enjoyed these very much, a very good horn speaker simply because it does not sound like a horn. Except nothing can play a horn like a horn. Which these certainly can play.
Great vocals, great sound stage, great imagining, they certainly projected sound far into the room, they all but disappeared.
Bass not to my liking, not crisp enough, not fast and tight enough, a tad woolly. Did not sound good on an expensive Cary KT88 amp, to slow it was the amp not the speakers.
Hooked then up with a Ming Da valve pre and a big Perreaux power amp they sounded a hell of a lot better. Cost a lot the price to performance ratio does not add up.
DIY horns.
An elderly chap here has a stunning system his Speakers are a modified take on Altech Voice of the Theater speakers this system blue my socks off he has 10 foot tubular subs built into the wall he loves pipe organ hell it sounded good.
The bloke who helped me with the build of my speaker has big DIY three way horns, they slaughter any commercial speaker I have heard apart from one thing again the active bass just does not sound right to me it lags ever so slightly I am very sensitive in that regard, trying to convince him to dump the active bass idea.
In my experience despite the sacredly held belief that a low power amp works with high efficiency speakers just does not work for me. Feed a h/e 100 db speaker 35 watts or so, not the usual 10 and it is a different animal. Feed a 94 db h/e speaker 60 watts same thing.
I like horns, but like all things there is good and bad, some people do not like them plain and simple. Just as I do not like 800 series B&W's, the 800 diamond is possibly the most awful sounding boring waste of money out there apart from Wilson's. Then again who am I to say, they do sell don't they.
