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Post by macca on Sept 30, 2018 11:56:01 GMT
Your forgetting that some of us like buying kit just because we like kit. It isn't just about music for us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 12:28:17 GMT
Audiophiles use their equipment to listen to music.
Enthusiasts use music to listen to their equipment.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 13:08:12 GMT
Audiophiles use their equipment to listen to music. Enthusiasts use music to listen to their equipment. Looks like us mere mortals will just have to stick with our ears Ant. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 13:14:05 GMT
Your forgetting that some of us like buying kit just because we like kit. It isn't just about music for us. A nasty disease macca, is there nothing the NHS can do. ? |
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Post by antonio on Sept 30, 2018 13:21:36 GMT
Audiophiles use their equipment to listen to music. Enthusiasts use music to listen to their equipment. I think you've got that the wrong way round.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 15:01:10 GMT
Audiophiles use their equipment to listen to music. Enthusiasts use music to listen to their equipment. I think you've got that the wrong way round. You get the idea. |
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Post by antonio on Oct 6, 2018 9:11:02 GMT
Been using standard Sound Cords on my headphone system for 4 years. Thinking about moving up the ladder to the super version. Are they more smoother sounding? S. Been meaning to do a comparison between my SC and SSP for you since first reading this post. I have been using SC between pre and power since it is shorter and a better fit, so today I have put in SSP and there is a notable difference even to my old ears. The bass was the first thing I noticed, better defined and slightly deeper, not sure if you get more detail but the music flows better. Never very good at describing differences, but I'm sure you would hear a difference Shane. I know you asked for SSC but I have been told, by someone I trust, SSP is the sweet spot for vfm. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2018 9:27:41 GMT
Is that SSP mk2 or the older semi-rigid (RG402) stuff?
It’s probably beyond budget but I did see Martin T on TAS selling his 1.1m NVA TIS for just £250 if anyone is interested.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2018 9:35:24 GMT
I should buy it myself, but three things are stopping me,
1. My Claymore was only £180 and so was the Sony deck. Paying £250 for a used interconnect just seems out of all proportion when they are one of the smalest difference makers (IMO).
2. I use more cables these days (TT to Sedley, Sedley to amp, CD to DAC and DAC to amp). Replacing one with something expensive only ends one way: dissatisfaction with the others.
3. I can happily wait until I see an end of reel Goretex cable and make several of my one cables, probably for less than I’d pay for one used TIS.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 9:40:37 GMT
Twin and earth - dirt cheep
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Post by dsjr on Oct 6, 2018 10:05:00 GMT
For a 1m lengthy, you'll need 4m to make up a TIS
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Post by antonio on Oct 6, 2018 10:21:10 GMT
Is that SSP mk2 or the older semi-rigid (RG402) stuff? It’s probably beyond budget but I did see Martin T on TAS selling his 1.1m NVA TIS for just £250 if anyone is interested. I think it's mk2, and as I'm sure Shane knows NVA have cable sale on now (probably ends today) and a 40cm is 120.00 so not too bad. |
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Post by dsjr on Oct 6, 2018 11:08:00 GMT
Chord did the Solid interconnect, another microwave cable, sheithed and well re-enforced into the Neutric pro plugs so not really 'twist-able' to break it. the later version used a thinner cable and their custom phono plugs. the NVA used TWO of these cables for the inner cores ONLY and for a pone-man-band, this was a bit ambitious to try to terminate safely withoput soldering and then gluing the plugs on. heat-shrink really wasn't enough in my view.
I seriously don't mean to be insulting to anyone, but we end-users are careless quite often and do things to the gear the manufacturers would be terrified of. That's why many ampos have extensive short circuit protection, as it only takes one strand of speaker cable sticking out... Same with interconnects, as many are shoehorned into confined spaces and bending too close to the plug may well break the connection - and so on...
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2018 19:29:39 GMT
I don’t know what it is about me and Chord Co, but their cables kept breaking on me if I sommuch as looked at them. I’m not talking “solid” either, just Chameleon, Chameleon Silver Plus etc. I had about half a dozen failures, yet I have never had another failure with anybody else’s Cables: Even the old Soundpipes.
One pair of Chameleon Silver Plus, I took out of the attached garage after storing them carefully for a couple of months. Both broken! They were fine when unplugged, stored extremely carefully given other Chord failures and checked before being plugged in! I still can’t get my head around that one. Contraction with the low temp in the garage? It was my last Chord Co cable. Never again. I gave them all to my mate who fixed them and flogged them.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2018 19:32:03 GMT
Twin and earth - dirt cheep As an interconnect? I’ve never heard anyone doing that before, but you have me intrigued. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2018 19:32:54 GMT
I’m fancying trying some of the Neotech cables too.they look well made. Anyone tried em?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 20:16:24 GMT
I’m fancying trying some of the Neotech cables too.they look well made. Anyone tried em? Westie, MartinT (TAS) will have a pair of my SPOTFIRE cables for a week or so from the weekend after next weekend. Why don't you give them a go when he's finished? No obligation, just a bit of feedback against the cables you have is all I ask. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2018 21:09:50 GMT
I’m fancying trying some of the Neotech cables too.they look well made. Anyone tried em? Westie, MartinT (TAS) will have a pair of my SPOTFIRE cables for a week or so from the weekend after next weekend. Why don't you give them a go when he's finished? No obligation, just a bit of feedback against the cables you have is all I ask. That’s fine by me.,I’d like to hear them at some point. I will likely have masses of upheaval fir months from mid November onwards, so sooner may be better than later. Should I just take it over to TAS, or is it arranged via you? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 21:26:22 GMT
Westie, MartinT (TAS) will have a pair of my SPOTFIRE cables for a week or so from the weekend after next weekend. Why don't you give them a go when he's finished? No obligation, just a bit of feedback against the cables you have is all I ask. That’s fine by me.,I’d like to hear them at some point. I will likely have masses of upheaval fir months from mid November onwards, so sooner may be better than later. Should I just take it over to TAS, or is it arranged via you? If you contact Martin via TAS and just ask him to post them to you when he is done that'll be fine. Once you've had a listen just post them back to me. They are out of my system so i will need them back lol  i already miss them! |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2018 21:37:49 GMT
Thanks, Oliver. I will drop Martin a line tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 21:39:54 GMT
Thanks, Oliver. I will drop Martin a line tomorrow. No worries! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 15:57:26 GMT
Twin and earth - dirt cheep As an interconnect? I’ve never heard anyone doing that before, but you have me intrigued. Neither have i I do like to try strange ideas you just never know the outcome. Sometimes you can get a nice surprise. Its solid core, shotgun cross section for low cap and unscreened.  |
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Post by dsjr on Oct 7, 2018 19:40:39 GMT
DNM have been peddling 300 ohm (spaced solid core) aerial cable as an interconnect for years now... Wonderful real-life aerials when taxis were nearby.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 21:03:23 GMT
Going to give the SSC a miss for now. Will look at getting them maybe by end of year.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 7, 2018 21:39:20 GMT
DNM have been peddling 300 ohm (spaced solid core) aerial cable as an interconnect for years now... Wonderful real-life aerials when taxis were nearby. How did I not see that! I even bought some back in the day. It has a lovely clarity but a lack of power I couldn’t live with. It’s a long, lng time ago though, so who knows today. |
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Post by dsjr on Oct 8, 2018 12:46:44 GMT
Conductors of that gauge should be good for a metre or so, but the inductance due to the spacing? coupled with no shielding may well cause them to make a fabulous aerial. No issue at all with the plastic RCA plugs used, although some may have fifty fits before even thinking of using them as they look absolute rubbish while having no 'sonic' degradation that I can here (mine have a split centre pin and smooth operation in use, just like the minimal contact zero shielding Eichmann or Star-Line types..
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 8, 2018 13:23:33 GMT
OK so I’m guilty of even more thread drift, but has anyone tried the DNM speaker cable? Same story for me. Lovely treble but not enough welly. I always promised myself I’d try it in tweeters in a bi wire setup, but never did. It used to be ridiculously cheap, but when you see how little there is to it, that’s probs all it was worth.
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Post by dsjr on Oct 8, 2018 14:33:45 GMT
Good in very short runs into easy speaker loads (as was the similar electrically Cyrus speaker cable), but its resistance is high and over 4m or so it has an increasing effect. Used with 4 ohm speakers and I'd suggest NO in capital letters...
Jimmy Hughes started all this after the DNM influence. Solid core removes the flesh from the bones, but whether this excess 'flesh' is colouration or should really be there is difficult to determine.'Pro monitors' as a breed, and possibly the finest large driver speakers too, have a kind of presence and inner clarity that many 'domestic' speakers tend to lack for whatever reason and what's left can be a bit 'stodgy' in the worst cases. using solid core speaker cables might replace one non-cable issue with another, but I can't prove either way, so it's just words currently. I can't even say that less but thicker strands in the speaker cable is 'better' as the selected commercial mega-strand cables in the Linn K10 (the stuff the Classik unit came with) is really good I remember. I just don't know...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 21:14:20 GMT
DNM have been peddling 300 ohm (spaced solid core) aerial cable as an interconnect for years now... Wonderful real-life aerials when taxis were nearby. Maxy Townsend started it before him. The first Townsend interconnect was a 300 ohm balanced FM areial-type cable with foam centre. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 8, 2018 21:35:58 GMT
I have forgotten that one, Max was always trying something away from the norm. I’ve always admired his free thinking approach.
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