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Post by antonio on May 13, 2024 14:00:23 GMT
Having just read misterc's reply in the Bigblog thread this has set me off thinking  We use Sky broadband for our internet needs and this includes Qobuz streaming. The main router is in the lounge and we have an extender in the back bedroom where my set-up is located. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the new Taiko router would appear to keep your music streaming separate from your network stuff, by creating a '2nd' network. Now at £5k? we certainly don't want to pay all that. Tony, what router and broadband company do you use? Should we be keeping our music streaming separate from other internet stuff? For those of you streaming music, what are you using? |
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Post by misterc on May 13, 2024 14:20:53 GMT
There are many schools of thought here Dave, here at work I have four IP's Virgin/hey Broad band/Vodafone soon to be junked and EE. have an all fibre 1GB pipe for the lab and Virgin for the screen & background music.
The pure audio set up is fed by a 5G stand lone mobile sim router (£120) and £17 a month which JUST and ONLY just feeds the streaming music devices which are situated just 1.5M from the streaming devices. This totally ensures you have ZERO other sharing on the supply feed, think about what you have at home how many mobiles/watches/pads/tablets/TV's Laptaps all pulling wifi off that router even @ 1GB's its BW drain and some routers you can prioritise which devices you wished fed first so to speak, plus some have options for quality of service (thank Martin T for that one recently)
So by allowing your streaming services to have free reign on BW this is also a big help.
I also have a Taiko switch, its very good but its not the only way to crack this nut, if you have a long run then I would suggest using FOE (Fibre over ethernet) you have these cadge like adpaters which slot into your routers RJ45 socket and covert the TBase 1000 data into a fibre optic signal, this is reversed at the rx end (streamer) a lot of chaps really swear by this method, its also on the grand scheme of things a lesser cost option between £300 & £600 depending on which brand and length you require also very flexible to use. Comes with a psu for both ends of transmission line.
Because my distance to source is very short (under 2m) & I only use the router for basically remote control and streaming pretty much just for client demo's. I use an sensible cost audio switch which can be grounded and has provision for a 10Mhz reference clock as well. I have tinkered with a bit and against the Taiko its demonstrates more depth and flow with a lower noise floor. However the Taiko is very good (no we don't sell it).
The difference between using the internal 1GB fibre pipe to the house and the mobile router is pretty wide, caveat here, if you were listening to just the fibre through the switch etc it still sounds pretty good, so if you hadn't listened to another IP source you may well be very happy.
So a fair few options about Dave
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Post by bencat on May 13, 2024 15:12:34 GMT
I have nothing like the depth of knowledge that Tony offers but in general I have found that using a converter from the router to two D-Link unmanaged switches using SFP optical cable (Cisco) one on the upstairs floor fed directly from the router the other on the ground floor . The upstairs has my Music server directly connected to the Switch while the downstairs switch is used for the TV / Amazon Fire Cube etc . Both convertors have 5 V LPSU used and until I got the Virgin 5 Hub the router was used with an LPSU . Doing this kept the noise floor really low . I am getting a replacement 12 V LPSU this week which will power the router and will see if that makes any difference .
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Post by misterc on May 13, 2024 15:17:43 GMT
Andrew you use FOE as well SFP its a good move for many chaps that have large distances or a electrically noisy envirnoments to/near their routers and under no circumstanices wish to have mesh systems of ethernet over power lines, I tried on my set up it proved a bit sideways althought that is because the distance is very small, I have installed FOE with good success in many systems and it is easily hidden as well, false skirting etc.
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Post by antonio on May 13, 2024 16:17:16 GMT
Thanks for your reply Tony, what we really wanted to know is more about the router for the main system. The router is very close to the Antipodes K50 (1.5m at the most), with a cheap and cheerful Cisco switch between the two. We honestly couldn't hear any difference using more expensive switches and did try 'The Flash's' Reiki switch with separate LPS. Do you have a recommendation for one of the 5G SIM card routers, guessing we would only need a cheaper/less complicated version since it would only be used for streaming music.
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Post by misterc on May 13, 2024 16:48:55 GMT
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Post by antonio on May 13, 2024 17:42:39 GMT
Thank you Tony, will now give this matter some thought.
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Post by peterthebutcher on May 14, 2024 7:24:41 GMT
Not sure what we have, all I know its a firm called "iTalk" and a decent but standard router, and runs at a meagre 42, but it has never buffered in the 6 years we have been with them, Streaming TV things is great
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Post by antonio on May 14, 2024 7:36:56 GMT
@petethebutcher Pleased you are happy with iTalk. We have never had a problem using Sky for streaming, tv and internet, just wondering if having a separate router for streaming music would make any difference.
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Post by peterthebutcher on May 14, 2024 10:21:11 GMT
@petethebutcher Pleased you are happy with iTalk. We have never had a problem using Sky for streaming, tv and internet, just wondering if have a separate router for streaming music would make any difference. |
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