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Post by Bigman80 on May 19, 2023 19:52:11 GMT
I've put this thread in "Digital" because it will be appertaining to the digital side of the system. My Aqvox DAC has been dispatched! .......and with it is coming an Aqvox "detoxer" Fuse. www.myhifishop.de/Zubehoer/HighEnd-Entstoersicherung-Detoxer-Fuse-Audio-Tuning-Sicherung::78.htmlNow, before anyone grabs their pitch fork and starts burning down the local huts, I am not advocating spending money on "voodoo" but it will be nice to try one and see whether I can hear a difference. Anyone tried fuses....if you have, let us know what type and what impression they made. |
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Post by gninnam on May 19, 2023 20:22:50 GMT
With out a fuse my kit didn't work.
With the fuse it did.
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Post by optical on May 20, 2023 6:36:44 GMT
If changing a cable can make a difference, say going from a standard kettle lead type to a higher quality copper one with better connectors at both ends etc, why not the same result with a fuse?
It's a part of the circuit and all the power going into your device has to go through it, same as a connector on either end or the lead etc.
I'm not saying it will make an appreciable difference audibly, but I wouldn't write it off out of hand because "it's only a fuse".....
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Post by mikeyb on May 20, 2023 7:52:06 GMT
I have short one here, can be used anywhere.
Blows regularly.
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Post by misterc on May 20, 2023 9:51:01 GMT
To fuse or not to fuse, Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune or asr zealot ridicle or nay sayers et all extracting the urine that is the question?
After all how can asingle piece of conductive material that maybe 20 thou in diameter possible in any way have an affect on the sound? barh humbug.
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Post by robbiegong on May 20, 2023 10:36:15 GMT
My take - no absolutes, and definitely no rhyme or reason to the way of certain things in this game. Quality does count, and very often no matter how small or insignificant the component might appear. The mistake a lot of audio folk make is mindset of expecting every 'upgrade' or 'better' piece to bring big, or very audially obvious improvement when that so often isnt going to be the case. The incremental plays a big part, this for me is one of those. Personally I'd rather one of these in my plugs, than the bog standard jobbies, not because the bog standard jobbies dont do the job, or are crap, but simply from that quality, incremental aspect that just sits comfortably with me and my own personally take on things, (of course everyone will have their own way - fine) - like the quality rca plugs, IECs etc and all those other little better quality things we have running throughout our set-ups. Incrementally, I sense it adds up, in its way. I have these in all my system mains plugs, used them for years and very happy www.futureshop.co.uk/hifi-tuning-uk-gold-2-mains-fuse#reviewsand these IECs over the standard issue for kettle www.kempelektroniksshop.nl/accessories/audio-grade-plugs/iego-iec-plug-massive-silver.html again, very happy. |
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Post by gninnam on May 20, 2023 19:45:51 GMT
Out of interest, has anyone opened up one these audiophile grade fuses and compared what is in it to a normal fuse?
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Post by robbiegong on May 20, 2023 20:18:04 GMT
Out of interest, has anyone opened up one these audiophile grade fuses and compared what is in it to a normal fuse? I personally havnt, but if one does, you should expect to find what the given spec for the particular fuse you've purchased. So in the case of the ones I use in my mains plugs, I'd expect to find the stated pure silver internal wiring, (ceramic body, On either end of the silver wire is a pure silver end cap coated in 24K gold) |
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Post by lurch on May 20, 2023 20:19:23 GMT
What at between £40 & £8.6k a pop. Though I guess there's some moneyed muppet with more money than sense somewhere who has.
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Post by robbiegong on May 20, 2023 20:22:59 GMT
What at between £40 & £8.6k a pop. Though I guess there's some moneyed muppet with more money than sense somewhere who has. Be interesting to know how many genuine purchases of £8.6k fuses have been made, in fact how many fuses £1K plus |
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Post by gninnam on May 20, 2023 23:42:24 GMT
You know what, I just spent 10 minutes typing a response to this and just scrubbed it. Some people may say I am a luddite but I would love to listen to different cables and fuses and report my findings as I have never changed a fuse for something more than a few pence and most of my RCA cables probably do not cost more than a few pounds...... 40 plus years in the hifi game and would love to be opened up to something new |
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Post by rexton on May 21, 2023 7:42:02 GMT
OK, Yorkshire mode on.
Who gives a Sh#t what anyone else thinks? It's your system, you'll hear what you hear. Positive or negative, it's only your view that matters.
Yorkshire mode off.
Civilised mode on.
I'd love to hear your thoughts.
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Post by Bigman80 on May 21, 2023 8:51:21 GMT
OK, Yorkshire mode on. Who gives a Sh#t what anyone else thinks? It's your system, you'll hear what you hear. Positive or negative, it's only your view that matters. Yorkshire mode off. Civilised mode on. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Yorkshire mode 😂 |
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Post by Bigman80 on May 21, 2023 9:46:55 GMT
There are a few audiophile fuses that have visible liquid in them. Others have bees wax in, which i will freely admit absolutely baffles me.
I thought it may be an interesting experiment.
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Post by robbiegong on May 21, 2023 10:06:38 GMT
There are a few audiophile fuses that have visible liquid in them. Others have bees wax in, which i will freely admit absolutely baffles me. I thought it may be an interesting experiment. Blimey! certainly didnt know that |
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Post by rexton on May 21, 2023 11:22:57 GMT
Wax to stop resonance?
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Post by Bigman80 on May 21, 2023 11:39:01 GMT
Well yeah, but normal ceramic fuses used to have sand in, or a sand like substance for the same thing if memory serves. Also, bees way is cheap as sh@t, so why caps and fuses are so expensive with it in is beyond understandable imo. Im unconvinced if truth be known, and as i was saying to Al earlier, i am genuinely hoping that this thing makes absolutely no difference at all. I don't want to have to put £99 fuses in everything lol |
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Post by rexton on May 21, 2023 16:12:09 GMT
bees way is cheap as sh@t, so why caps and fuses are so expensive with it in is beyond understandable imo. Ear wax is cheaper and probably provides a better profit margin for the manufacturers and explains why they think that these fuses work, less wax in their ears means better sonics?
Interesting hypothesis I think......  |
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Post by misterc on May 21, 2023 16:37:02 GMT
I am going to enjoy this thread immensely, for the record I use aftermarket fuses of two types, however the four figure ones I did get to 'experinece' recently my observation would ' interesting'
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Post by rexton on May 21, 2023 17:50:02 GMT
I am going to enjoy this thread immensely, for the record I use aftermarket fuses of two types, however the four figure ones I did get to 'experinece' recently my observation would ' interesting' tease..... |
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Post by robbiegong on May 21, 2023 20:33:08 GMT
I am going to enjoy this thread immensely, for the record I use aftermarket fuses of two types, however the four figure ones I did get to 'experinece' recently my observation would ' interesting' Talk Mr C, talk |
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Post by misterc on May 22, 2023 8:23:36 GMT
You should realise by now, the use of the word 'interesting' should tell you all you really need to know 
Having perfiormed a (non) double blind test) lol I can safely say the are other products out there that have a simular effect in that you can hear a difference, whether you wish to pursue that difference well thats a matter for the individual.
Would I personally look to invest in these specific brand of fuses, for that outlay I could put a nice system togther, purchase a quality (audio) front end and still have enough to take the family away, a not to shabby ULEZ compliant vehicle, a half decent two week (all expenses) trip to San Francisco, a nice used Tag watch with change, a fully fitted (nice) suit from Henry Poole & Co.
Or maybe some NS&I bonds, you get the picture
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Post by stryder5 on May 22, 2023 8:46:01 GMT
Well yeah, but normal ceramic fuses used to have sand in, or a sand like substance for the same thing if memory serves. Also, bees way is cheap as sh@t, so why caps and fuses are so expensive with it in is beyond understandable imo. Im unconvinced if truth be known, and as i was saying to Al earlier, i am genuinely hoping that this thing makes absolutely no difference at all. I don't want to have to put £99 fuses in everything lol I hope you could hear a difference with £99 fuses, would piss myself at the thought of you explaining to the missus......lol |
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Post by Bigman80 on May 22, 2023 16:03:45 GMT
Well yeah, but normal ceramic fuses used to have sand in, or a sand like substance for the same thing if memory serves. Also, bees way is cheap as sh@t, so why caps and fuses are so expensive with it in is beyond understandable imo. Im unconvinced if truth be known, and as i was saying to Al earlier, i am genuinely hoping that this thing makes absolutely no difference at all. I don't want to have to put £99 fuses in everything lol I hope you could hear a difference with £99 fuses, would piss myself at the thought of you explaining to the missus......lol Well the nice people at Aqvox have been very accommodating. I requested a unit that did not have a SMPS installed due to my propensity to remove such things and get them replaced with a LPS. So, instead of the SMPS they have included a Detoxer fuse instead. Obviously, not having to part with any cash directly for a fuse made it absolutely ok to take up the offer. I am sceptical, but there are many who i respect in this hobby who repeatedly regale their love for such things and the impact they can have. Should it land and make my head wobble....i'll tell everyone, not just the Mrs! lol |
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