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Post by misterc on Apr 15, 2023 12:14:09 GMT
After a long wait our latest electronics lab item of high-end test equipment has arrived. We have been professional appreciators of Teledyne Lecroy equipment for a long time now and have quite a few pieces of the high-quality equipment in our facility. Recently we took delivery of one of the best real-world R&D, debug, serial data and power analysis oscilloscopes on the market.Now proudly residing on our diagnostic bench is a Teledyne Lecroy Wavepro HD scope with it's powerful 20G/s sample rate and massive capture memory over 1Gp/s it has expanded our already very good diagnostic capabilities even further ahead coupled with its cutting edge R&D capabilities for our own products ranges. Musical Coherence brand. would like to thank Richard & Jeremy @ Teledyne Lecroy UK for all of their help over the years. Coherent Systems have an eviable reputation for audio diagnostic repairs and upgrades here in the UK and around the world. Why not use our services and find out for yourselves.
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 15, 2023 12:42:57 GMT
After a long wait our latest electronics lab item of high-end test equipment has arrived. We have been professional appreciators of Teledyne Lecroy equipment for a long time now and have quite a few pieces of the high-quality equipment in our facility. Recently we took delivery of one of the best real-world R&D, debug, serial data and power analysis oscilloscopes on the market.Now proudly residing on our diagnostic bench is a Teledyne Lecroy Wavepro HD scope with it's powerful 20G/s sample rate and massive capture memory over 1Gp/s it has expanded our already very good diagnostic capabilities even further ahead coupled with its cutting edge R&D capabilities for our own products ranges. Musical Coherence would like to thanks Richard & Jeremy @ Teledyne Lecroy UK for all of their help over the years. Coherent Systems have an eviable reputation for audio diagnostic repairs and upgrades here in the UK and around the world. Why not use our services and find not for yourselves.
Our customer feedback speaks for itself.
I am impressed that you are impressed because I have no idea what I'm looking at. But well done on pushing your kit further on mate.
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Post by misterc on Apr 15, 2023 13:54:45 GMT
Afternoon Oli The scope view is showing a full serial data break down of an ultra-high end reference 10 Mhz master clock, but that I mean I can look at full jitter analysis 16 sperate characteristics, electrical noise both frequency & time domain, digital X/talk, spectral analysis of jitter/electrical noise as well as eye diagrams in four line mode each with up to 88 different types of measurements applied. In layman’s terms a significant ability to view pretty much every possible aspect of the signal in minute detail for example in the first image on the lower right had side of the screen is the 12th mini screen display of measured random jitter + bounded uncorrelated jitter histogram which is extrapolated using the dual dirac method of forming the RMS resultant of the RJ which is unbounded jitter but does have a periodic cycle Lecroy's uses I believe a spectral method of calculational formular to display the finished screen measurements. BUJ includes PJ, but it also includes other bounded uncorrelated effects that don’t cause clear peaks in the jitter spectrum. One common source with these characteristics is cross talk from adjacent traces on printed circuit boards or coupling within the chips themselves. The Spectral method of jitter separation will see cross talk as noise in the jitter spectrum, so it will only separate the PJ peaks and attribute the other effects to RJ. What this mean in English is that jitter can measured & quantified for many different causes and areas that are well outside the considered norm's for the various areas of electronic activity, RF/Power electronics/Communications/radar etc. The graph is showing a 732fs histogram span (there are 1000 femtoseconds in a picosecond) with 2000 bin width and 5000 high possibilities in each of those bins. While performing this at 20 billion samples a second. So, it’s pretty accurate. It’s also great for decoding All forms of ETHERNET information and traffic, USB physical layer testing and protocol analysis, full three phase vector power analysis, jitter investigations separately, DDR PCIE debug. automotive ethernet debug and investigations, a dual spectral analyser model plus ref channel and a really neat digital power management app that we can watch drops and sags on even very small power rail sand measure the recovery time from load on to off and what noise is caused on the rails while this is happening. I can also leave the scope running with wave scan and it can be set to look for anomalies even one in say 10 million it will find it. Then you can play back EACH frame individually like a film to find the exact point of incidence. Also virtual probing (Woooo matron) which allows you to 'remove' an unknown portion of the circuit for the measurement even if you can't get in to physically probe hat portion of the circuit. etc. It was a significant investiment, however it has already proved invalueable with a couple of projects all ready, the last image is an stand alone eye diagram whioch gives a vsiual representation of how good a serial data signal is being transmitted and receieved the bigger, more open the eye with very little thickness on the lines is good.
Below is a good representation of a before and after debugging eye diagram for a high speed serial bus, the openess of the eye can be determined by electrical noise, band width limitations, bad coding called ISI jitter (inter symbol interference), incorrect imepedence matching with connectors and whole host of other issue not just poor clocks lol.
But it illistrates just how good the eye in the image I posted is.
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Post by lurch on Apr 16, 2023 7:31:00 GMT
🤯 When did you learn to write Martian Tony?
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