Post by Arke on Jan 16, 2023 17:53:03 GMT
Which speaker is best for me? This is not an easy question to answer, however, I will make a start in this thread and provide further details as the thread progresses. I am currently working on a FAQs section and a section discussing some speaker Myths.
I received this question from @pigmy Pony today, so will try to answer that first:
"Quick question Jason - if you were provided with photos of a room together with a floor plan giving dimensions, would you be able to determine the suitability of your speakers? And if the speaker location was set in stone and room treatments were not compatible with domestic harmony could you see a time when you might have to say "Sorry, my speakers will be no good for you"? Or would you still suggest a home dem on the off chance that the measurements could mislead?"
Part 1) Suitability for the room - I can certainly advise to the best of my knowledge, but it simply isn't possible to know for sure. The best way is to try in your room or firstly listen in someone else's room. It is easier to define a shortlist with the following information: Room dimensions? Budget? Speaker position within room? Speaker size constraints? Amp (if known/fixed)?
Part 2) "Sorry, my speakers will be no good for you"? - ARKE Audio can make any of the Troels Gravesen speakers. Yes, some speakers will obviously be no good for you (based on your answers to part 1). However, there should be some Troels speakers to suit virtually any set of requirements. I currently have direct experience of the the following: CNO4, Ekta mkII, CNO25 and the ARKE Duos.
It is also hard to say what is and isn't suitable for someone's ears - it is very subjective. Room modes usually cause a big lift at certain frequencies - some people hate this deviation from the flat frequency response and others appreciate a bass lift! It is possible to fine tune (within reason) the high frequency on ARKE speakers to suit most rooms and tastes.
Part 3) measurements could mislead? - I would always suggest at least a demo and ideally a home demo. Unfortunately, home demos aren't always feasible (where are you based @pigmy Pony?). This question goes back to the discussion with Martin... Yes, if you understand measurements (and what you want/need) then you can build a shortlist of speakers - it would allow you to eliminate some particularly bad performers. I would caution against this unless you really understand what measurements are saying and how that may translate into your room. I won't explain some of the potential pitfalls of using measurements now, as that is a very long article/discussion (perhaps to follow at some point). Troels Gravesen explains some issues here: www.troelsgravesen.dk/Revelator-851.htm#MEASUREMENTS
Hope that helps to answer that (3 part) question! Unfortunately, these things are never black and white, so it is not a conclusive answer.
I received this question from @pigmy Pony today, so will try to answer that first:
"Quick question Jason - if you were provided with photos of a room together with a floor plan giving dimensions, would you be able to determine the suitability of your speakers? And if the speaker location was set in stone and room treatments were not compatible with domestic harmony could you see a time when you might have to say "Sorry, my speakers will be no good for you"? Or would you still suggest a home dem on the off chance that the measurements could mislead?"
Part 1) Suitability for the room - I can certainly advise to the best of my knowledge, but it simply isn't possible to know for sure. The best way is to try in your room or firstly listen in someone else's room. It is easier to define a shortlist with the following information: Room dimensions? Budget? Speaker position within room? Speaker size constraints? Amp (if known/fixed)?
Part 2) "Sorry, my speakers will be no good for you"? - ARKE Audio can make any of the Troels Gravesen speakers. Yes, some speakers will obviously be no good for you (based on your answers to part 1). However, there should be some Troels speakers to suit virtually any set of requirements. I currently have direct experience of the the following: CNO4, Ekta mkII, CNO25 and the ARKE Duos.
It is also hard to say what is and isn't suitable for someone's ears - it is very subjective. Room modes usually cause a big lift at certain frequencies - some people hate this deviation from the flat frequency response and others appreciate a bass lift! It is possible to fine tune (within reason) the high frequency on ARKE speakers to suit most rooms and tastes.
Part 3) measurements could mislead? - I would always suggest at least a demo and ideally a home demo. Unfortunately, home demos aren't always feasible (where are you based @pigmy Pony?). This question goes back to the discussion with Martin... Yes, if you understand measurements (and what you want/need) then you can build a shortlist of speakers - it would allow you to eliminate some particularly bad performers. I would caution against this unless you really understand what measurements are saying and how that may translate into your room. I won't explain some of the potential pitfalls of using measurements now, as that is a very long article/discussion (perhaps to follow at some point). Troels Gravesen explains some issues here: www.troelsgravesen.dk/Revelator-851.htm#MEASUREMENTS
Hope that helps to answer that (3 part) question! Unfortunately, these things are never black and white, so it is not a conclusive answer.