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Post by hifinutt on Aug 23, 2022 13:23:58 GMT
Anyone like Verity Audio speakers ? big fan here . had the rienzi and sadly sold them
hopefully some will be at Ascot show this year
here are the lohengrin 2
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Post by misterc on Aug 23, 2022 14:23:47 GMT
Hi Phil, have owned those quality speakers under rated in my book. Sorry for the plug have some Parsifal's Phil
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Post by jandl100 on Aug 24, 2022 7:19:23 GMT
I heard the pair that Paul RFC had at his place.
Were they Rienzi?
He seemed deeply enamoured, but they didn't do much for me. They left me uninvolved.
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Post by misterc on Aug 24, 2022 10:01:34 GMT
Hi Jerry All I am going to say here is, system synergy and leave it at that  |
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Post by hifinutt on Aug 24, 2022 14:05:33 GMT
I heard the pair that Paul RFC had at his place. Were they Rienzi? He seemed deeply enamoured, but they didn't do much for me. They left me uninvolved. yes i bought those , they were very good on the end of the msb s200 !!! what i liked about them was the woofer could face forwards OR backwards depending on the room  P1040590 by , on Flickr i think this pic is from pauls room [ RFC ] with the taus which i have now in loft room  IMG_0194 by , on Flickr |
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Post by hifinutt on Aug 24, 2022 14:07:21 GMT
Hi Phil, have owned those quality speakers under rated in my book. Sorry for the plug have some Parsifal's Phil ooh you can plug anything anyday mister c . what parsifals are they ? and what colour just out of interest ? |
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Post by misterc on Aug 24, 2022 16:39:02 GMT
Hi Phil, have owned those quality speakers under rated in my book. Sorry for the plug have some Parsifal's Phil ooh you can plug anything anyday mister c . what parsifals are they ? and what colour just out of interest ? They are the fisrt one circa 2004/5 with the soft dome tweeter and the reversable woofer in high gloss black and they have full special customer BR interposers made to go between the top bookshelf and lower bass portion of the speakers, they are min and come with the full flight cases.
PM if you wish for images Phil
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Post by hifinutt on Aug 27, 2022 21:42:13 GMT
Thanks tony
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Post by hifinutt on Nov 6, 2022 12:34:31 GMT
listening to some leonore today on youtube . lovely
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Post by hifinutt on Dec 27, 2022 17:48:27 GMT
ooh you can plug anything anyday mister c . what parsifals are they ? and what colour just out of interest ? They are the fisrt one circa 2004/5 with the soft dome tweeter and the reversable woofer in high gloss black and they have full special customer BR interposers made to go between the top bookshelf and lower bass portion of the speakers, they are min and come with the full flight cases.
PM if you wish for images Phil
those BR interposers sound interesting tony . any links ? i think they normally come with sorbothane |
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Post by misterc on Dec 27, 2022 18:43:22 GMT
They were Derrick's (Mr Black Ravioli) own speakers' they are custom designed & built for the Verity's
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Post by hifinutt on Dec 28, 2022 13:08:05 GMT
wow ... never knew he had Verity . very nice too
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Post by hifinutt on Feb 18, 2023 13:15:15 GMT
some nice Verity just landed . pics to follow . these are Rienzi which were discontinued . the woofer can go forwards or backwards . BIG sound from these . they are fairly old but still great . My thanks to the guys at ELITE audio for making it happen . they arrived on a big pallet in 3 boxes .
this is an old video [ not mine
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Post by antonio on Feb 18, 2023 14:34:39 GMT
Pleased you said Phil, thought it was your listening room.  |
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Post by hifinutt on Feb 18, 2023 17:30:11 GMT
i wish !!! although i am very lucky i have 2 listening rooms . one is pretty big .
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Post by hifinutt on Mar 11, 2023 16:49:14 GMT
working on the Rienzi positioning and playing with them . beginning to come on song but not there yet . I have a feeling i need a better amp to use with them . been advised this "It helps if using a lower output impedance amp design. They're not a demanding load but that long throw woofer needs grip to overcome bass muddiness at low frequencies so a good solid state works well or a push pull with negative feedback." having a look round but finances tight now so its going to have to be arcam for a bit longer i do love the veneer . just a few pics  IMG_0653 by , on Flickr  IMG_0651 by , on Flickr  IMG_0649 by , on Flickr  IMG_0648 by , on Flickr |
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Post by macca on Mar 11, 2023 20:08:14 GMT
They look interesting, midrange driver runs all the way up instead of being rolled off into the tweeter.
Nine thousand dollars when new!
can't find any measurements for them.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 11, 2023 20:26:49 GMT
working on the Rienzi positioning and playing with them . beginning to come on song but not there yet . I have a feeling i need a better amp to use with them . been advised this "It helps if using a lower output impedance amp design. They're not a demanding load but that long throw woofer needs grip to overcome bass muddiness at low frequencies so a good solid state works well or a push pull with negative feedback." having a look round but finances tight now so its going to have to be arcam for a bit longer i do love the veneer . just a few pics IMG_0653 by , on Flickr IMG_0651 by , on Flickr IMG_0649 by , on Flickr IMG_0648 by , on Flickr Lovely veneer. Absolutely. Can chuck a 686 in and see what you think. |
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Post by hifinutt on Mar 12, 2023 17:18:42 GMT
thanks ollie and yes beautiful veneer at the moment the a85 as a power amp is not bad . but really a more beefy class AB would be better . these are very different to the AR6 . which had electrostatic fast sound with amazing imaging . like a fast motorbike these have a delicacy , a finesse with that violin just sounding really rubby as it moves , and lovely texture . As i mentioned last time i had a 200 watt class AB amp on them which was divine . ironically i sold them to a chap well known on the forums who used them with some valve amps and could not get on with them . however the MSBs200 was just superb . these cost about 30k now and weigh an enormous amount  P1010092_zps88816dcb by , on Flickr |
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Post by hifinutt on Mar 12, 2023 17:22:17 GMT
They look interesting, midrange driver runs all the way up instead of being rolled off into the tweeter. Nine thousand dollars when new! can't find any measurements for them. yes verity speakers are very expensive !! there are several for sale in UK now lakme at 6250 s/h otello in black at 10.5k s/h parsifal anni at 13k in black however all modern verity have rear facing drivers which is a ball ache in a smaller room although mark at elite reckons they can go near walls measurements here www.manualslib.com/manual/743789/Verity-Audio-Rienzi.html?page=9#manual |
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Post by hifinutt on Mar 12, 2023 17:27:56 GMT
did think about the s/h lakme which are about 6250 s/h [ 14 rrp] but they have a black removable front baffle . on enquring i find that this baffle costs 1500 quid in walnut which is a bit OTT !!!
these replaced the rienzi i think and are rather nice . they dont have the 2 box feature and as i say they have rear facing woofers . It would take a great deal to replace the Tannoy eaton legacy i use but a pair of verity might just do it if i felt they could go near walls which everyone i am sure will tell me they cant
mark thinks otherwise though i think
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Post by Arke on Mar 12, 2023 20:16:31 GMT
Your new Veritys look fantastic. I bet they're are a quality speaker for reasonable money - good find!
The rear facing drivers could be fine nearish to a wall in quite a few rooms, hard to know as will depend on many factors (room dims, listener position etc.). I'm sure the designers would have designed the bass driver's output to suit the rear location. The rear firing location will harness additional room gain, so the crossover design should account for this (within reason).
Many speakers use (bass) driver locations that benefit from room gain - down firing bass drivers or drivers low in the cabinet (YG, estelon to name two). Using the benefit of room gain allows the speaker to play louder bass at a given signal input.
They may need more caution than usual, however, a home demo would soon tell you.
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Post by hifinutt on Mar 13, 2023 14:42:07 GMT
yes home demo pretty impossible with verity as they are shockingly expensive new !! one has to take a gamble with s/h speakers often
appreciate your comments arke
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Post by Arke on Mar 13, 2023 14:56:05 GMT
yes home demo pretty impossible with verity as they are shockingly expensive new !! one has to take a gamble with s/h speakers often appreciate your comments arke I did wonder if that would be an issue. Often the challenge with 2nd Hand. Have you tried your bass drivers facing the wall? Are yours designed to work either way? |
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Post by hifinutt on Mar 13, 2023 16:46:47 GMT
yes not tried them facing wall yet . i have always had them forwards . maybe i will one day
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Post by Arke on Mar 13, 2023 16:49:55 GMT
yes not tried them facing wall yet . i have always had them forwards . maybe i will one day I think if your bass is currently perfect, then facing the wall may give you too much boost in the LF. In any case, you current speakers look fantastic and I'm sure sound great. |
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Post by hifinutt on Mar 13, 2023 17:54:42 GMT
Thanks , yes they dont need any more bass really
Thinking of a nice class ab amp at some point .not quite convinced re the neurochrome . I once had some belles mb 200 which would be superb .
The arcam a85 can still give you pretty good sound , diana krall still sounds fabulous and beautifully natural but i have heard it even better
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Post by misterc on Mar 13, 2023 18:15:00 GMT
Phil
A suggestion that will really help here as you are upstairs, BAG the floor its a bit messy and time consuming but it will pay dividends and its sensible money to achieve
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Post by Arke on Mar 13, 2023 19:07:29 GMT
Thanks , yes they dont need any more bass really Thinking of a nice class ab amp at some point .not quite convinced re the neurochrome . I once had some belles mb 200 which would be superb . The arcam a85 can still give you pretty good sound , diana krall still sounds fabulous and beautifully natural but i have heard it even better I'll be interested to see which amp you choose. The 686 has been my favourite so far, but there are plenty I haven't tried. It is so subjective and dependent on the speaker matching too. The 686 has a very neutral/faithful sound and doesn't flatter poor sources/speakers/cables, I could understand that some will not like that and in some systems (which lack refinement) it may come over too precise and clinical (just my thoughts from limited demos). Edit: just to clarify, I'm not implying I thought the 686 was/is clinical. But it doesn't add bloom, romance or warmth. If something in the system is edgy or clinical it will not smooth over it or mask it. |
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Post by hifinutt on Mar 14, 2023 9:56:22 GMT
thanks arke , yes i dont like clinical !!!
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