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Post by misterc on May 3, 2022 15:15:29 GMT
I will bring along a Rockna as well so you can run them back to back
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Post by antonio on May 3, 2022 15:52:24 GMT
,Rockna was an interesting suggestion although I think they would cost more than £5k, however they did make the AudioByte VOX/ZAP which would get you under your budget, don't see any mention of them nowadays so maybe they have stopped producing this model  |
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Post by Bigman80 on May 3, 2022 16:48:06 GMT
I will bring along a Rockna as well so you can run them back to back Can I borrow it? Few days, returned insured etc? Would like to know what it does in my system. |
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Post by Bigman80 on May 3, 2022 16:48:42 GMT
,Rockna was an interesting suggestion although I think they would cost more than £5k, however they did make the AudioByte VOX/ZAP which would get you under your budget, don't see any mention of them nowadays so maybe they have stopped producing this model Wavedream on eBay for £4500....it's in the theoretical budget |
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Post by misterc on May 3, 2022 16:55:33 GMT
They are new £4450 anyway lol
Have a taken a couple of holo May KTE in p/x, very different sound, more meat on the bone, more drive and bass control the internal OS is light years ahead, NOS if you like full on pipeand slippers then the Rockna is not a dac for you. only 384Khz though.
It thrives on a good source no question for naimies stick in the I2s slap in a Gustard U18 and you will be in bleeding edge heaven. For those music lovers stick with AES and Mutec and you will never wish to leave to listening spot.
The WL imho is a better overal balance, the WD they are three versions, sig is superb, BUT you really need GOOD supporting kit, it will show ANY weakness. The base model WD, is really different from the WL or just different?
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Post by Bigman80 on May 3, 2022 17:25:39 GMT
They are new £4450 anyway lol
Have a taken a couple of holo May KTE in p/x, very different sound, more meat on the bone, more drive and bass control the internal OS is light years ahead, NOS if you like full on pipeand slippers then the Rockna is not a dac for you. only 384Khz though.
It thrives on a good source no question for naimies stick in the I2s slap in a Gustard U18 and you will be in bleeding edge heaven. For those music lovers stick with AES and Mutec and you will never wih to leave to listening spot.
The WL imho is a better obveral balance, the WD they are three versions, sig is superb, BUT you really need GOOD supporting kit, it will show ANY weakness. The base model WD, is really different from the WL or just different?
Are they? Wow lol. I did wonder about the cost but couldn't find a UK price? Should have checked your website shouldn't i lol Show me the deficiencies!!!!!! |
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Post by brucew268 on May 3, 2022 17:30:22 GMT
They are new £4450 anyway lol
Have a taken a couple of holo May KTE in p/x, very different sound, more meat on the bone, more drive and bass control the internal OS is light years ahead, NOS if you like full on pipeand slippers then the Rockna is not a dac for you. only 384Khz though.
It thrives on a good source no question for naimies stick in the I2s slap in a Gustard U18 and you will be in bleeding edge heaven. For those music lovers stick with AES and Mutec and you will never wih to leave to listening spot.
The WL imho is a better obveral balance, the WD they are three versions, sig is superb, BUT you really need GOOD supporting kit, it will show ANY weakness. The base model WD, is really different from the WL or just different?
Emm, I thought your website showed them closer to £7k, maybe got that wrong. Also one might look at SW1X level III or level II SPX. All this is way out of my realm of possibility anyway! |
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Post by misterc on May 3, 2022 17:33:03 GMT
Emm, I thought your website showed them closer to £7k, maybe got that wrong. Also one might look at SW1X level III or level II SPX. All this is way out of my realm of possibility anyway!
Hi Bruce,
They are £4400 inc vat. It's a genuine runner in the upto 8-9K stakes, and it more than holds its own against a Audio Note Dac5 sig
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Post by Bigman80 on May 3, 2022 17:45:31 GMT
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Post by misterc on May 3, 2022 18:04:36 GMT
Yes there is its the base model with XLR's all of the WD's work the best in balanced no question.
Its been there for a few weeks and if you look also the same image appears on hifi shark for a lot less as well.
The chap is in Bornemouth I believe, its also an early model with the coloured display instead of white, also the top logo on the cover is diffferent it is purfirated with holes
Entry level WD's XLR's start about £8k
Its a sorta of a bargin just go for it
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Post by Bigman80 on May 3, 2022 18:25:19 GMT
Yes there is its the base model with XLR's all of the WD's work the best in balanced no question. Its been there for a few weeks and if you look also the same image appears on hifi shark for a lot less as well. The chap is in Bornemouth I believe, its also an early model with the coloured display instead of white, also the top logo on the cover is diffferent it is purfirated with holes Entry level WD's XLR's start about £8k Its a sorta of a bargin just go for it Theoretical budget still prevents this move lol |
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Post by hornucopia on May 4, 2022 15:53:45 GMT
MHDT Havana or Pagoda? Straight filterless Redbook.
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Post by diggygun on Oct 14, 2022 10:25:20 GMT
I actually did this in June this year. Sold on my LP12 (Akurate Plus spec) record deck and Naim CD 5 XS CD player.
All the records and CDs were bought as a complete lot by a dealer, the storage and all other paraphernalia were sold on a well known auction site.
Went totally digital and changed to a Linn Klimax DS3 / Katalyst streamer to go with the Naim amplification and Kudos speakers.
Really enjoying it and it is similar sounding to my previous LP12 set up. Using Qobuz as it has the largest number of Jazz tracks with a good number of them in Hi-Res.
One of the best things I’ve done, Hi-Fi wise.
DG…
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Post by bencat on Oct 14, 2022 11:47:43 GMT
Just a thought but probably not a great one would creating a DAC that had its own dedicated version of a DDE like the Mutec inside the same case make a clear increase in sound quality ? I only say this because on a very low tech level it is very clear that something like an Allo Digi Signature hat is a very real uplift in sound quality because the board has a better LPSU but also because the Allo is being fed direct I2S in very close proximity to the other chips . I have also been told by another DAC maker that moving Raspberry Pi in to the same box as the DAC board has a very significant increase in sound quality to that DAC. So if keeping things close together can work in this way would the same be for a DDE style high quality clock fed directly from the DAC board at I2S level and then fed back to the DAC for output ? Look this may be just none sense as I have not a great technical grasp of this subject but I think most on here are convinced that Clocking makes a very beneficial uplift to the sound quality so could a one unit solution be a better way for getting the maximum sound quality ?
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Post by antonio on Oct 14, 2022 13:13:38 GMT
I actually did this in June this year. Sold on my LP12 (Akurate Plus spec) record deck and Naim CD 5 XS CD player. All the records and CDs were bought as a complete lot by a dealer, the storage and all other paraphernalia were sold on a well known auction site. Went totally digital and changed to a Linn Klimax DS3 / Katalyst streamer to go with the Naim amplification and Kudos speakers. Really enjoying it and it is similar sounding to my previous LP12 set up. Using Qobuz as it has the largest number of Jazz tracks with a good number of them in Hi-Res. One if the best things I’ve done, Hi-Fi wise. DG… I've recently moved away from vinyl, only 4 albums left to sell That was in the 2nd system, so both are now files/streaming from Qobuz, couldn't be happier. We do still have all our cd's though. |
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Post by misterc on Oct 14, 2022 13:20:03 GMT
I2s internal is NOT th3s same as I2S via LVDS (HDMI / RJ45) and its been done many times BC by one or two manufacturers
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Post by bencat on Oct 15, 2022 9:57:21 GMT
I never said that I2S output from a socket (HDMI , 5 Mini DIN etc) was the same . In fact as far as I can tell that is why using the two items in the same box and connecting at circuit board level using the I2S out from the Pi pins is supposed to be better as it uses I2S for what it was designed for .
Are you saying that internal chip connection of I2S is not the full three channel output of R/L and clock information ? If so then I was not aware of that as in the cases i have seen for chip connection and pin function there are three pins for the above information and I presumed that was what was being sent around the circuit board .
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Post by myles on Oct 15, 2022 10:00:42 GMT
Use the 5k to go to more gigs. No one i want to see, unless Ray Lamontagne comes to the UK I don't have £5k BTW, its a hypothetical lol Use the 5k to go to more hypothetical gigs - you'll get front row at Ray Lamontagne definitely. |
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Post by macca on Oct 15, 2022 10:17:28 GMT
use some of the £5K to go on holiday. After a week of listening to some crappy bar PA in Torremolinos your system will sound superb when you get back.
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